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1. 06:05 AM - flying the front seat (Oscar Zuniga)
2. 06:41 AM - Re: update on 41CC ()
3. 07:17 PM - Re: flying the front seat (Dick Navratil)
4. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: Possibly (Probably) Dumb Question (Clif Dawson)
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| Subject: | flying the front seat |
One more comment on flying 41CC. Neither Charlie nor I have very much ,er,
padding in our gluteus maximuses (maximi?). That being the case, the front
seat of a Pietenpol will test your endurance after 2.5 hours. I didn't
notice any discomfort flying from either position but then again, I was too
busy having fun. Charlie groaned a bit and had to stretch for a while after
he climbed out, but then again he's probably 15 years my senior.
The front seater really has a very classic look out the front windscreen,
just like in the movies. It is exciting to sit up there with the eyebrow
scoops and prop about a yard ahead of your eyes, especially on final
approach. I can see as how people love to take rides in the Piet, it really
is a sensational ride up there.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Great story and the proof is in the pudding as they say!Thanks for that
since I won't be getting up for a few months yet since we are still in snow
and cold.Great to hear stuff like this!Thanks.
do not archive
>From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: update on 41CC
>Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:01:22 -0600
>
><taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>Well, I guess since the Pietenpol Air Camper is such an antiquated,
>inadequate, unsafe, clumsy design- I shouldn't say this, but I just spent
>one of the most memorable days of my life flying one.
>
>Today marked one of the longest instructional flights in my logbook except
>for dual x-c's during my training days for my private... 2.5 hrs. dual, 16
>landings logged in 41CC today. I can honestly say that it was one of the
>most challenging, but fun, instructional flights that are in my logbook.
>
>The airplane flies as honest and as pure as any airplane can possibly fly.
>There is nothing quirky about this Pietenpol Air Camper. Nothing. It
>takes off, climbs, cruises, stalls, descends, lands, turns, and does
>everything else exactly the way elementary flight instruction is taught and
>the way any pilot can expect a conventional, 3-axis airplane to fly. There
>are no surprises, no mysteries. The airplane requires that the pilot know
>how to fly, and that is all.
>
>We flew circuits at T86 to both ends of the runway (essentially zero wind),
>then blew out of the pattern to go fly stalls and Dutch rolls and let me
>see what the vertical velocity indicator showed at different airspeeds.
>That was cheating, because 41CC actually has two gyro instruments... a T&B
>and a VVI (I was taught that it was a VSI, but I guess all that changed
>somewhere along the line and now it has a new name). But none of that is
>necessary. Charlie sat up front and he could set the airplane up to
>demonstrate a maneuver at 70MPH, power and controls, then ask me what
>airspeed we were showing. 70MPH. Not a penny more nor less. You can fly
>this airplane without the instruments. Later, I swapped seats with Charlie
>and flew it from the front and did even better except that the toes of my
>boots kept hitting the fuel tank. But it's a blast to fly this airplane.
>
>We flew out to a ranch airstrip, not a whole lot more than gravel and dirt,
>and I actually did better at approaches and landings there than I did to
>the "big, real, paved runway" at Zapata. It was more fun that a guy should
>be allowed to have.
>
>I guess I'm signed off to fly the airplane, but before I bring it home I'm
>going up for one more session of dual. A circuit or three, a few touch and
>goes, then I'll head off on my first solo and x-c in it, to bring it back
>home. I hate to do it, Charlie loves the airplane so much and gives so
>many people rides in it. Last one was a 12-year-old that he flew over his
>family's ranch yesterday. That lad will never forget that flight, I can
>assure you. And Charlie flies another guy's Zenith 701 regularly (they use
>aircraft for herding and spotting cattle down here) and says the Piet is as
>good as, or better, at the job than the 701. Comparable short field
>performance, more comfortable loitering at cow-spotting altitude, more fun
>to fly. I'll take his word.
>
>Corky, you built a winner.
>
>Oscar Zuniga
>San Antonio, TX
>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: flying the front seat |
Hey Oscar
When you are ready to experience luxury Piet flying try a self inflating
sleeping bag pad from a camping store. You roll it over a couple of times
for the seat and leave the inflation valve at the top behind your shoulder.
You can then adjust inflation in flight. It has made lots of difference for
me. You will be able to walk much faster for the toilet after the 2 1/2 hr
flight.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 8:05 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying the front seat
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> One more comment on flying 41CC. Neither Charlie nor I have very much
> ,er, padding in our gluteus maximuses (maximi?). That being the case, the
> front seat of a Pietenpol will test your endurance after 2.5 hours. I
> didn't notice any discomfort flying from either position but then again, I
> was too busy having fun. Charlie groaned a bit and had to stretch for a
> while after he climbed out, but then again he's probably 15 years my
> senior.
>
> The front seater really has a very classic look out the front windscreen,
> just like in the movies. It is exciting to sit up there with the eyebrow
> scoops and prop about a yard ahead of your eyes, especially on final
> approach. I can see as how people love to take rides in the Piet, it
> really is a sensational ride up there.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Possibly (Probably) Dumb Question |
And then take it up to that EAA field and show it off!
Give rides too.
Clif
>
There will always be the nay sayers.Now go and
> build your Piet as per directions from the master,Bernard Pietenpol and
> enjoy a great aircraft!
>
>
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