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1. 04:21 AM - Re: flying the front seat ()
2. 06:44 AM - flying the front seat (Oscar Zuniga)
3. 10:37 AM - Model A received (HelsperSew@aol.com)
4. 11:46 AM - Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
5. 11:57 AM - Re: Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL (HelsperSew@aol.com)
6. 12:09 PM - Re: Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
7. 12:19 PM - new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
8. 02:09 PM - Re: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers (gcardinal@comcast.net)
9. 02:23 PM - Re: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
10. 03:04 PM - Model A (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
11. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Possibly (Probably) Dumb Question (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
12. 06:33 PM - Re: Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL (gbowen@ptialaska.net)
13. 07:30 PM - Re: Flying again. (Catdesigns)
14. 07:55 PM - Re: Flying again. (Greg Chapman)
15. 09:51 PM - Re: Flying again. (Peter W Johnson)
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Subject: | Re: flying the front seat |
Just install a tube and a hole in the bottom of aircraft for fluid eggress
while in flight.Then fly over the neighbours house that you don't like and
let her go.
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Subject: | flying the front seat |
Dick wrote-
>try a self inflating sleeping bag pad from a camping store. You roll it
>over
>a couple of times for the seat and leave the inflation valve at the top
>behind your shoulder.
Actually, I have one of those with my camping stuff. Interesting idea.
>You will be able to walk much faster for the toilet after the
>2 1/2 hr flight.
Actually, I had no trouble staying in the airplane that long; it was pushing
80 degrees in Zapata on Sunday. I'm not kidding. And we just had a "dry
line" pass through the day before, so if anything, I needed hydration and my
"spent fuel tank" still had plenty of reserve capacity. I'll tell you what,
though- it was shirtsleeves on the ground but when we got up to about 2500'
to do stalls it was chilly! The windscreens work well to break the wind,
but the air was just downright frisky. I can't imagine taking the airplane
any higher without a jacket (all I had was a long sleeve flannel shirt).
I guess I should have reached up into the overhead compartment, pushed aside
my laptop and carry-on bag, and grabbed my jacket ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Model A received |
Hi Pieters,
I just picked up my Model A rebuild from Antique Engine Rebuilders of Skokie
IL. Rich the owner is a good guy and easy to work with. I bought a run-out on
Ebay last summer for $100.00. This turned out to be a good find because it was
a "diamond" block. It is identified by a small diamond shaped casting mark
on the valve cover side of the block. I was told it signified that it was made
after the main production runs for the "A's" was over, and improved in some
ways. Drove up and picked it up in Blue River WI. $2700.00 bought me new
pistons and rods, modern insert bearings, oversize intake valves, and
counter-weighted crankshaft. The counter-weighted crankshaft was recommended to
me by Ken
Perkins. He says you need it for a "good strong" engine. Now I will build it up
with an aluminum 8 plug head and dual mags. I got the dual mag drive set-up
from Ken.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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Subject: | Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL |
Guys,
In looking at the google maps (satellite view) of Clow Airport near
Chicago I noticed that the old restaurant and big hangar
are gone that were there last time I landed there. Looks like a new
shopping center was built on the east side of the airport.
Does anyone know if the restaurant was relocated to one of the newer
structures on the airport ?
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL |
Mike,
Our EAA chapter flew in to Clow summer of '05 to eat in their brand new
restaurant in one of the new buildings. Good Eat'n!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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Subject: | Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL |
Wow, that was FAST ! Thanks for that good news, Dan as I remember
freezing on the way past Clow one year and landing to get
some hot soup and a sandwich at the old restaurant. Good to hear they
kept the restaurant on the airport.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:57 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Clow Airport Restaurant ?
Naperville, IL
Mike,
Our EAA chapter flew in to Clow summer of '05 to eat in their
brand new restaurant in one of the new buildings. Good Eat'n!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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Subject: | new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers |
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER * $11,200 * FOR SALE * finished in 1999, Metal
fuselage w/side doors, Poly-fiber covering (red and cream) 95 hp Corvair
engine, Warp drive prop, no starter, 2- 3 Test hours flown off. Good
running and looking plane. Have to see to appreciate. Not in annual.
Photos on request. Marvin * Contact Marvin Grout - located New Carlisle,
OH USA * Telephone: 937 845-0981 * Posted February 26, 2007 *
http://www.barnstormers.com/index.php
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Subject: | Re: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers |
Finished 8 years ago and only 2 - 3 test hours flown????????
Mike, do you know any more about the plane?
Greg C.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER $11,200 FOR SALE finished in 1999, Metal fuselage w/side
doors, Poly-fiber covering (red and cream) 95 hp Corvair engine, Warp drive prop,
no starter, 2- 3 Test hours flown off. Good running and looking plane. Have
to see to appreciate. Not in annual. Photos on request. Marvin Contact Marvin
Grout - located New Carlisle, OH USA Telephone: 937 845-0981 Posted February
26, 2007
http://www.barnstormers.com/index.php
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<DIV>Finished 8 years ago and only 2 - 3 test hours flown????????</DIV>
<DIV>Mike, do you know any more about the plane?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Greg C.</DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER $11,200 FOR SALE finished in
1999, Metal fuselage w/side doors, Poly-fiber covering (red and cream) 95 hp Corvair
engine, Warp drive prop, no starter, 2- 3 Test hours flown off. Good running
and looking plane. Have to see to appreciate. Not in annual. Photos on request.
Marvin Contact Marvin Grout - located New Carlisle, OH USA Telephone:
937 845-0981 Posted February 26, 2007 </FONT></P>
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Subject: | new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers |
Greg-- I've never heard of this one. Maybe someone on the list will
know more. It sounds like there must be more to the story here.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gcardinal@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:09 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale
on Barnstormers
Finished 8 years ago and only 2 - 3 test hours flown????????
Mike, do you know any more about the plane?
Greg C.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]"
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER * $11,200 * FOR SALE * finished in
1999, Metal fuselage w/side doors, Poly-fiber covering (red and cream)
95 hp Corvair engine, Warp drive prop, no starter, 2- 3 Test hours flown
off. Good running and looking plane. Have to see to appreciate. Not in
annual. Photos on request. Marvin * Contact Marvin Grout - located New
Carlisle, OH USA * Telephone: 937 845-0981 * Posted February 26, 2007 *
http://www.barnstormers.com/index.php
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Dan: I bought an already converted A, but the builder didn't put
hardened seats under the valves for no lead fuel, so I am going to go
into it and have that done. Also I want the insert bearings. Did you
have hardened seats installed? It's been a couple of years since I
talked to Ken about counter balanced crank. At that time he said it was
not needed for our low rpm range.. What caused him to change his mind?
Did you get the weld on counter balances? Did the builder have a cow
when you told him it was for an airplane, or did you keep that a secret?
What was your total cost from the builder? You don't have to answer that
if you don't want to. Leon S.
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Subject: | Re: Possibly (Probably) Dumb Question |
Sure! All I have to do is finish it (which may extend beyond the lifespan
of the more critical types in the chapter). I try to make regular progress
and work on it at least 3 times a week but have a new appreciation for the
amount of work this is (as well as respect for all you folks that have
finished, and even more for a few that have built more than 1 plane. This
takes serious project management skills.) I'm hoping that the wing ribs I'm
almost done with will become a wing in less time than it took to make them;
the reading, studying plans and learning has taken a lot of time and I'd
probably be able to repeat what I've done in less time if I did it again
(and I hope I can).
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Possibly (Probably) Dumb Question
>
> And then take it up to that EAA field and show it off!
> Give rides too.
>
> Clif
>
>
>>
> There will always be the nay sayers.Now go and
>> build your Piet as per directions from the master,Bernard Pietenpol and
>> enjoy a great aircraft!
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL |
Haven't heard about Clow in many years, glad to hear it's still an airport
instead of some strip mall or housing development. Flew out of Clow back
in '72 with my first plane a Piper Colt, living in Naperville. Don't
remember a restaurant but do remember Clow having a nasty almost constant
X-wind of about 30 kts, was always thankful the ole Colt sunk like a rock
and stuck like glue. Hate to try Piete on a bad x-wind day at Clow.
Gordon Bowen
Original Message:
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Clow Airport Restaurant ? Naperville, IL
Wow, that was FAST ! Thanks for that good news, Dan as I remember
freezing on the way past Clow one year and landing to get
some hot soup and a sandwich at the old restaurant. Good to hear they
kept the restaurant on the airport.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:57 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Clow Airport Restaurant ?
Naperville, IL
Mike,
Our EAA chapter flew in to Clow summer of '05 to eat in their
brand new restaurant in one of the new buildings. Good Eat'n!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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Subject: | Re: Flying again. |
Peter, what changes did you make to your tail wheel?
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter W Johnson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
Rick,
This was my first ground loop and it was counter clockwise, is there
any better way to do it!!!!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 3:49 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
Peter
Any truth to the rumor that Piets ground-loop counter-clockwise down
under?
(you know, like the toilet thing?).
Rick
On 2/25/07, Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Walt, our temps have been in the 30's as well, only these are
centigrade!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt
evans
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 3:05 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
<waltdak@verizon.net>
Peter,
Just happened to realize, guess it's common knowledge,,,,,,,but while
us in
the Northern Hemisphere are going thru the throws of winter, you guys
Down
Under are in the heat of Summer.
Flying all the Piets is kind of like the old tag team wrestling on TV
walt evans
NX140DL
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"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au >
To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> After some enforced repairs caused by a ground loop, I had the Piet
flying
> again yesterday. I have fitted a re pitched prop, changed the
tailwheel
> and
> brake setup and improved the cooling system. The flight was
uneventful
> other
> than a rather large grin all over my face. Hands and feet off the
Piet
> wanted to go nose down a little but I think a little more power and
that
> will trim out. I have fitted a trim lever but will need to get
tensions
> correct before use.
>
> At the end of the taxi back to the hangar, the oil temp was a bit
high but
> I
> think I'll leave the engine some more hours to bed in before doing
much
> else
> with the baffles.
>
> If the weather holds good, I'll be doing some more testing in the
next
> couple of weeks to see how things go. It all looks good now though.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://www.cpc-world.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> 1:26 PM
>
>
>
>
>
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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25/02/2007 3:16 PM
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25/02/2007 3:16 PM
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Subject: | Re: Flying again. |
It's canted to the right, of course, to counter the counter-clockwise
tendencies.
Greg
Catdesigns wrote:
> Peter, what changes did you make to your tail wheel?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Peter W Johnson <mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:35 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
>
> Rick,
>
>
>
> This was my first ground loop and it was counter clockwise, is there
> any better way to do it!!!!
>
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Originally I used the plans tail skid with a tail wheel attached. This
turned out to be rotatable (slightly) in the roll axis. It felt a bit like
falling off the spring. I changed the original fitting for a piece of
spring steel (from a trailer spring) and bolted that directly to the
original fuse fitting holes. It makes for a lighter and simpler
installation. The tail wheel is a greater distance (small) from the main
wheels so W&B distribution is not affected. The tail post gussets and extra
braces at the tail post are of sufficient strength to hold the wheel when
taxiing.
Hopefully the attached pictures will help with the explanation.
So far the steering has been more positive.
I have also added a YouTube video of the first flight to the web site.
Cheers
Peter.
Wonthaggi Australia
HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns
Sent: Wednesday, 28 February 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
Peter, what changes did you make to your tail wheel?
----- Original Message -----
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au"Peter W Johnson
"mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com"pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
Rick,
This was my first ground loop and it was counter clockwise, is there any
better way to do it!!!!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com"http://www.cpc-world.com
_____
From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com"owner-pietenpol-list-serve
r@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Holland
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 3:49 PM
"mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com"pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
Peter
Any truth to the rumor that Piets ground-loop counter-clockwise down under?
(you know, like the toilet thing?).
Rick
On 2/25/07, Peter W Johnson <HYPERLINK
"mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au"vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
"mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au"vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
Walt, our temps have been in the 30's as well, only these are centigrade!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com"http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com"owner-pietenpol-list-serve
r@matronics.com
[mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com"
owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of walt evans
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 3:05 AM
"mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com"pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
"mailto:waltdak@verizon.net"waltdak@verizon.net>
Peter,
Just happened to realize, guess it's common knowledge,,,,,,,but while us in
the Northern Hemisphere are going thru the throws of winter, you guys Down
Under are in the heat of Summer.
Flying all the Piets is kind of like the old tag team wrestling on TV
walt evans
NX140DL
do not archive
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W Johnson" <HYPERLINK
"mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au"vk3eka@bigpond.net.au >
"mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com"pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:39 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flying again.
> <HYPERLINK "mailto:vk3eka@bigpond.net.au"vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> After some enforced repairs caused by a ground loop, I had the Piet flying
> again yesterday. I have fitted a re pitched prop, changed the tailwheel
> and
> brake setup and improved the cooling system. The flight was uneventful
> other
> than a rather large grin all over my face. Hands and feet off the Piet
> wanted to go nose down a little but I think a little more power and that
> will trim out. I have fitted a trim lever but will need to get tensions
> correct before use.
>
> At the end of the taxi back to the hangar, the oil temp was a bit high but
> I
> think I'll leave the engine some more hours to bed in before doing much
> else
> with the baffles.
>
> If the weather holds good, I'll be doing some more testing in the next
> couple of weeks to see how things go. It all looks good now though.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com"http://www.cpc-world.com
>
>
> --
> 1:26 PM
>
>
>
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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