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1. 12:12 AM - Glue questions...... (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
2. 12:19 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
3. 03:24 AM - Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
4. 06:11 AM - Model A carb heat (HelsperSew@aol.com)
5. 06:12 AM - 41CC finally home (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 06:19 AM - Re: 41CC finally home (Phillips, Jack)
7. 06:33 AM - Re: 41CC finally home (Mike King)
8. 07:30 AM - Re: GN-1 Plans (Steve Singleton)
9. 07:30 AM - Col. Oscar TACO (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
10. 08:23 AM - Re: 41CC finally home (Steve Singleton)
11. 08:25 AM - Re: 41CC finally home ()
12. 01:40 PM - Cub Cowl (lgroulx200)
13. 02:35 PM - Re: Glue questions...... (walt evans)
14. 03:39 PM - Re: Glue questions...... (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
15. 04:07 PM - Really Newbie Questions (Bill_Sherwood)
16. 04:11 PM - Re: Glue questions...... (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
17. 04:42 PM - Re: 41CC finally home (gcardinal)
18. 04:46 PM - Re: Wing gap fairings (gcardinal)
19. 06:02 PM - Houston builders... (Jim Markle)
20. 06:15 PM - Re: 41CC finally home (Rcaprd@aol.com)
21. 06:19 PM - Re: 41CC finally home (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
22. 07:46 PM - landing technique (Oscar Zuniga)
23. 07:58 PM - Cold weather building (shad bell)
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Subject: | Glue questions...... |
Members of the list:
(Scenario -Question)....When I have been gluing all my joints, I am not afraid
to use a "fair amount" of glue and enough clamps/weight to keep the joint snug.
I do observe glue squeezing out during the gluing process and clean up the
excess before it dries. After the glue has completely dried, I go over the pieces
joined and with a sure form file(cheese grate file) and remove the excess
glue. I then sand the area and make it look pretty! It is important that all
glue joints be cleaned up for cosmetic reasons? Also, after I apply all gussetts
and the glue is completely dried, I grab the part and "shake it" good to make
sure it stays together. Anyone else questioning the glue joints for piece
of mind?...or am I just over-reacting? (tee-hee-hee) It just seems with my 260lb
frame I feel....lets say concerned that this structure is able to hold me even
with a hard three touch landing.....
Name withheld to protect stupid question and concern.....
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Subject: | Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood |
Corky,
Glad to hear from you.....Yes with all this snow it is a bit tricky. Please let
me know if you find the serial number on the frame somewhere which verifies
the data plate concerning the L4 designation. must be a misprint. I did send
the paper work back to you ....with snail mail might take 10 days.....is Louisiana
still apart of the continental US? Send photos when you can....Tell David
I said hello and miss his smile!!
Ken
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Ken,
How do you carry plywood on a snowmobile?
Corky
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Subject: | Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood |
With your frame size at 260, how wide are you going to make the fuse?
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Greg Cardinal - plywood
Corky,
Glad to hear from you.....Yes with all this snow it is a bit tricky. Please let
me know if you find the serial number on the frame somewhere which verifies the
data plate concerning the L4 designation. must be a misprint. I did send the
paper work back to you ....with snail mail might take 10 days.....is Louisiana
still apart of the continentalUS? Send photos when you can....Tell David I
said hello and miss his smile!!
Ken
Isablcorky@aol.com wrote:
Ken,
How do you carry plywood on a snowmobile?
Corky
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Subject: | Model A carb heat |
Hi all,
I'm sure this has been rehashed but I cannot find specific information in
the archives. Why is it again that model A's always need the carb heat on?
The answer is obvious but I need to read the explanation for myself. How much
power do you lose by having this "on" all the time? There is not that much
H.P. to spare! I have read all about the steel wool getting sucked into the
carb, so I won't do that for sure. Any help or advise would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.
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Subject: | 41CC finally home |
Howdy, Corky/Nathan, and all you Pietenpolers;
Yesterday 41CC finally made it home after its 2+ year odyssey from
Shreveport. What a memorable flight. My hangar-mate Randy Stout flew me
down to Zapata in his Corvair-powered Zenith 601 (a very smooth and pleasant
flight, 1.5 hr.). My instructor Charlie was feeling a little under the
weather but by the time we got the airplane out of the hangar and fired up,
he was hitting on all cylinders so up we went for a final checkout.
Wind was probably 10-12 straight down the runway from the north, chilly, sky
was clear and the bluebonnets are starting to come up in big patches along
the runway. First landing was nearly perfect, second one was botched, third
was mediocre so I called it good and we taxied to the pump to top it off.
Randy departed (I had no hope of flying back with him, his cruise is 2x mine
and he wanted to fly back at 5500', which would take me forever to climb to
and was 34F at that altitude). We topped off the fuel, went into the line
shack, Charlie signed me off in the Pietenpol and signed off my Sport Pilot
currency endorsement, took a copy of my passport and certified that I'm not
a terrorist alien (I'm not kidding... the TSA now requires instructors to
verify and document citizenship before giving you instruction), and then it
was just stalling tactics till I decided to launch into the blue.
It was exhilarating to fly 41CC solo. She is a perfect lady to fly, honest
and true. The first hour sailed by and I hit my waypoints pretty well, but
it was obvious that the tailwind coming down was really going to hurt me
going back. The second hour I was following Interstate 35 pretty much all
the way so there was lots to see... the sun was shining on the airplane
broadside so I made sure I kept close enough to the highway so everybody
could see us up there. I'm sure she made a pretty sight. Speed on that
section of the Interstate is 75, so lots of northbound traffic got a good
look at the airplane as they moved out ahead of me.
I landed in Cotulla to top off the fuel and stretch (man, that little seat
gets hard after a couple of hours!) and made a perfect landing. Taxied to
the pump and it took 8.0 gallons for 2.0 hrs. of flying time at cruise...
exactly on the 4 gal./hr. performance numbers quoted for this engine. She
is as predictable as Old Faithful geyser.
The nice lady at the FBO commented on what a cute little airplane it was,
how fast does it go, where was I headed, and what kind of airplane is it.
Nobody has ever heard of a Pietenpol.
The third, and final, hour was the longest. I will admit that I pushed the
envelope because it was legal sunset by the time I spotted Castroville
airport, which is close to San Geronimo but still 10-15 minutes away. The
rotating beacon was already on at Castroville.
I made a straight-in to the runway at San Geronimo, made a very acceptable
landing, made the first turnoff to our hangar, and put the airplane away
after 3.0 hrs. of x-c and a very uneventful flight. I never went over 2500'
MSL (about 2000 AGL), didn't quite freeze my tail off but wish I would have
so I wouldn't feel it so much, didn't do too badly folding and flipping my
charts, only got lost once (just kidding), only worried about losing the
engine once (okay, maybe a couple of times there over the uninhabited brush
country of South Texas), never saw another airplane, and had a whale of a
good time.
Col. Zuniga, Texas Air Camper Organization, reporting mission completed and
all is well on the Southern front. Awaiting next sortie assignment.
Oscar "got my Piet wings" Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | 41CC finally home |
Great News Oscar! You gonna fly it to Sun 'n' Fun?
Welcome to the Fraternity
Jack Phillips
TACO Member
NX899JP
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Subject: | Re: 41CC finally home |
Congratulations Col. Zuniga! It is good to hear about your journey.
When I bought my GN-1 from a friend of mine in Corpus Christi many
years ago I flew it from there to Dallas, Texas. That was one long
but memorable Sunday.
It looks I might be moving to Corpus. If so, another trip will be on
tap from Dallas to Corpus. You might join me in South Texas one
day for a T.A.C.O. sortie. The Gulf Coast is pretty.....especially
from a PIET / GN-1.
Mike King
GN-1
77MK
Ponder, Texas
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC finally home
<taildrags@hotmail.com>
Howdy, Corky/Nathan, and all you Pietenpolers;
Yesterday 41CC finally made it home after its 2+ year odyssey from
Shreveport. What a memorable flight. My hangar-mate Randy Stout flew
me
down to Zapata in his Corvair-powered Zenith 601 (a very smooth and
pleasant
flight, 1.5 hr.). My instructor Charlie was feeling a little under
the
weather but by the time we got the airplane out of the hangar and
fired up,
he was hitting on all cylinders so up we went for a final checkout.
Wind was probably 10-12 straight down the runway from the north,
chilly, sky
was clear and the bluebonnets are starting to come up in big patches
along
the runway. First landing was nearly perfect, second one was botched,
third
was mediocre so I called it good and we taxied to the pump to top it
off.
Randy departed (I had no hope of flying back with him, his cruise is
2x mine
and he wanted to fly back at 5500', which would take me forever to
climb to
and was 34F at that altitude). We topped off the fuel, went into the
line
shack, Charlie signed me off in the Pietenpol and signed off my Sport
Pilot
currency endorsement, took a copy of my passport and certified that
I'm not
a terrorist alien (I'm not kidding... the TSA now requires instructors
to
verify and document citizenship before giving you instruction), and
then it
was just stalling tactics till I decided to launch into the blue.
It was exhilarating to fly 41CC solo. She is a perfect lady to fly,
honest
and true. The first hour sailed by and I hit my waypoints pretty
well, but
it was obvious that the tailwind coming down was really going to hurt
me
going back. The second hour I was following Interstate 35 pretty much
all
the way so there was lots to see... the sun was shining on the
airplane
broadside so I made sure I kept close enough to the highway so
everybody
could see us up there. I'm sure she made a pretty sight. Speed on
that
section of the Interstate is 75, so lots of northbound traffic got a
good
look at the airplane as they moved out ahead of me.
I landed in Cotulla to top off the fuel and stretch (man, that little
seat
gets hard after a couple of hours!) and made a perfect landing.
Taxied to
the pump and it took 8.0 gallons for 2.0 hrs. of flying time at
cruise...
exactly on the 4 gal./hr. performance numbers quoted for this engine.
She
is as predictable as Old Faithful geyser.
The nice lady at the FBO commented on what a cute little airplane it
was,
how fast does it go, where was I headed, and what kind of airplane is
it.
Nobody has ever heard of a Pietenpol.
The third, and final, hour was the longest. I will admit that I
pushed the
envelope because it was legal sunset by the time I spotted Castroville
airport, which is close to San Geronimo but still 10-15 minutes away.
The
rotating beacon was already on at Castroville.
I made a straight-in to the runway at San Geronimo, made a very
acceptable
landing, made the first turnoff to our hangar, and put the airplane
away
after 3.0 hrs. of x-c and a very uneventful flight. I never went over
2500'
MSL (about 2000 AGL), didn't quite freeze my tail off but wish I would
have
so I wouldn't feel it so much, didn't do too badly folding and
flipping my
charts, only got lost once (just kidding), only worried about losing
the
engine once (okay, maybe a couple of times there over the uninhabited
brush
country of South Texas), never saw another airplane, and had a whale
of a
good time.
Col. Zuniga, Texas Air Camper Organization, reporting mission
completed and
all is well on the Southern front. Awaiting next sortie assignment.
Oscar "got my Piet wings" Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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----- The plans for the GN-1 are sold. Thanks. Steve Singleton
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That was some enjoyable reading, Oscar and I'm really happy to hear that
your flight went well---- along with many of the rest of us
on the list, I'm sure. You got a good taste of what Chuck Gantzer,
Jack, and others have experienced now going that far cross
country in a Pietenpol and you did it all in one afternoon. A two hour
leg is about as much as I care to go in the Piet but have gone
2:30 once. Lonely feeling when you are 1 hour away from the nearest
airport, isn't it ? Fortunately here in the midwest you're generally
only 15-30 min. from the nearest airport in a Piet. Your cruising
altitude sounds perfect too. High enough to clear cell towers and most
other towers, low enough to stay somewhat warm. Your new adventure
begins !
Mike C.
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Subject: | Re: 41CC finally home |
Oscar-that was great! Steve Singleton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC finally home
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Howdy, Corky/Nathan, and all you Pietenpolers;
>
> Yesterday 41CC finally made it home after its 2+ year odyssey from
> Shreveport. What a memorable flight. My hangar-mate Randy Stout flew me
> down to Zapata in his Corvair-powered Zenith 601 (a very smooth and
> pleasant flight, 1.5 hr.). My instructor Charlie was feeling a little
> under the weather but by the time we got the airplane out of the hangar
> and fired up, he was hitting on all cylinders so up we went for a final
> checkout.
>
> Wind was probably 10-12 straight down the runway from the north, chilly,
> sky was clear and the bluebonnets are starting to come up in big patches
> along the runway. First landing was nearly perfect, second one was
> botched, third was mediocre so I called it good and we taxied to the pump
> to top it off. Randy departed (I had no hope of flying back with him, his
> cruise is 2x mine and he wanted to fly back at 5500', which would take me
> forever to climb to and was 34F at that altitude). We topped off the
> fuel, went into the line shack, Charlie signed me off in the Pietenpol and
> signed off my Sport Pilot currency endorsement, took a copy of my passport
> and certified that I'm not a terrorist alien (I'm not kidding... the TSA
> now requires instructors to verify and document citizenship before giving
> you instruction), and then it was just stalling tactics till I decided to
> launch into the blue.
>
> It was exhilarating to fly 41CC solo. She is a perfect lady to fly,
> honest and true. The first hour sailed by and I hit my waypoints pretty
> well, but it was obvious that the tailwind coming down was really going to
> hurt me going back. The second hour I was following Interstate 35 pretty
> much all the way so there was lots to see... the sun was shining on the
> airplane broadside so I made sure I kept close enough to the highway so
> everybody could see us up there. I'm sure she made a pretty sight. Speed
> on that section of the Interstate is 75, so lots of northbound traffic got
> a good look at the airplane as they moved out ahead of me.
>
> I landed in Cotulla to top off the fuel and stretch (man, that little seat
> gets hard after a couple of hours!) and made a perfect landing. Taxied to
> the pump and it took 8.0 gallons for 2.0 hrs. of flying time at cruise...
> exactly on the 4 gal./hr. performance numbers quoted for this engine. She
> is as predictable as Old Faithful geyser.
>
> The nice lady at the FBO commented on what a cute little airplane it was,
> how fast does it go, where was I headed, and what kind of airplane is it.
> Nobody has ever heard of a Pietenpol.
>
> The third, and final, hour was the longest. I will admit that I pushed
> the envelope because it was legal sunset by the time I spotted Castroville
> airport, which is close to San Geronimo but still 10-15 minutes away. The
> rotating beacon was already on at Castroville.
>
> I made a straight-in to the runway at San Geronimo, made a very acceptable
> landing, made the first turnoff to our hangar, and put the airplane away
> after 3.0 hrs. of x-c and a very uneventful flight. I never went over
> 2500' MSL (about 2000 AGL), didn't quite freeze my tail off but wish I
> would have so I wouldn't feel it so much, didn't do too badly folding and
> flipping my charts, only got lost once (just kidding), only worried about
> losing the engine once (okay, maybe a couple of times there over the
> uninhabited brush country of South Texas), never saw another airplane, and
> had a whale of a good time.
>
> Col. Zuniga, Texas Air Camper Organization, reporting mission completed
> and all is well on the Southern front. Awaiting next sortie assignment.
>
> Oscar "got my Piet wings" Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few
> simple tips.
> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline
>
>
>
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Subject: | 41CC finally home |
Way to go Oscar;great story!
Thanks for that,still cold and still snow up here in cold
Canada,Ottawa!Looking forward to the thaw.
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Hi,
Does anyone have a drawing of a J-3 cowl with measurments?
Thanks
Larry
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Subject: | Re: Glue questions...... |
Dear withheld,
what type of glue are you using???
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
To: Pietenpol
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glue questions......
Members of the list:
(Scenario -Question)....When I have been gluing all my joints, I am
not afraid to use a "fair amount" of glue and enough clamps/weight to
keep the joint snug. I do observe glue squeezing out during the gluing
process and clean up the excess before it dries. After the glue has
completely dried, I go over the pieces joined and with a sure form
file(cheese grate file) and remove the excess glue. I then sand the area
and make it look pretty! It is important that all glue joints be
cleaned up for cosmetic reasons? Also, after I apply all gussetts and
the glue is completely dried, I grab the part and "shake it" good to
make sure it stays together. Anyone else questioning the glue joints for
piece of mind?...or am I just over-reacting? (tee-hee-hee) It just seems
with my 260lb frame I feel....lets say concerned that this structure is
able to hold me even with a hard three touch landing.....
Name withheld to protect stupid question and concern.....
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Subject: | Re: Glue questions...... |
Glue is T-88 mixed in proper proportions....
walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote: Dear withheld,
what type of glue are you using???
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
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----- Original Message -----
From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
To: Pietenpol
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 3:11 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Glue questions......
Members of the list:
(Scenario -Question)....When I have been gluing all my joints, I am not afraid
to use a "fair amount" of glue and enough clamps/weight to keep the joint snug.
I do observe glue squeezing out during the gluing process and clean up the
excess before it dries. After the glue has completely dried, I go over the pieces
joined and with a sure form file(cheese grate file) and remove the excess
glue. I then sand the area and make it look pretty! It is important that all
glue joints be cleaned up for cosmetic reasons? Also, after I apply all gussetts
and the glue is completely dried, I grab the part and "shake it" good to make
sure it stays together. Anyone else questioning the glue joints for piece
of mind?...or am I just over-reacting? (tee-hee-hee) It just seems with my 260lb
frame I feel....lets say concerned that this structure is able to hold me even
with a hard three touch landing.....
Name withheld to protect stupid question and concern.....
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Subject: | Really Newbie Questions |
Hello Everyone,
My name is Bill Sherwood and I have not been involved in homebuilding for thirty
plus years. At the time I was building a Rand KR-1 but I never completed it.
I have purchased a complete set of plans from B. H. P. and Sons Air Camper
Aircraft LLC including the full size wing rib drawing. As a result I am going
to ask some REALLY NEWBIE questions.
What is the glue/adhesive/bonding material of choice? I was using Weldwood product
which was a powder that I mixed with water.
What is a good source for Sitka Spruce? At the time I ordered the wood from Aircraft
Spruce & Specialty Company.
Construction priority. I was planning on constructing the wing ribs first followed
by the tail feathers and then the fuselage construction. I would then build
the wing. I thought that this process sequence would reacquaint me with
wood construction. If this sequence of construction is not logical, please let
me know.
What are the suppliers names for Model-A engines, propellers, radiators, etc?
We are planning on attending the Piet get-together at Brodhead in July. We live
in the Houston, Texas area.
Thanks for your patience,
Bill :)
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Subject: | Re: Glue questions...... |
I started with the WEST SYSTEM epoxy, a real nice set up and no mixing
errors with the pumps, a little more expensive but well worth it. No waste in
glue
and no mix errors. The stuff is great to work with. I am using the slow cure
system harder so I have enough time to get all the joints lined up and set
while not having to worry about pot life. By the time the epoxy begins to
stiffen up I have used it all up.
Not a big mess either, neat clean efficient and a good mix every time, cant
beat it for my money.
I am doing this with the care and accuracy as if my life depends on it, oh
wait , it does!
John
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Subject: | Re: 41CC finally home |
Very nice write-up, Oscar.
Learning to fly the Pietenpol is a joy. Try the "Khe Sanh" approach, fly a
tight pattern and keep it high on final. When you cross the fence pull the
power to idle and push the nose down, and I mean WAY down. Round out to a
normal flare and touch down. It looks very impressive from the ground. Don't
try it with a passenger though....
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC finally home
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Subject: | Re: Wing gap fairings |
Hey Greg,
I haven't been able to locate the pictures of the British Piet with the
laced gap fairing.
Simply form the fairing, drill matching holes on upper and lower
surfaces and use leather lacing cord to stitch it together.
What is new with the Mountain Piet re-build?
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Bacon
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing gap fairings
Does anyone have pictures of wing gap fairings that that are secured
with leather lacing? Greg Cardinal told me about the method. Sounds
like a neat and simple way to secure them.
Thanks,
Greg Bacon
Prairie Home, MO
NX114D (Mtn. Piet)
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Subject: | Houston builders... |
There are a couple of very nice Piet builders in the Houston area...
You might check the matronics archives for email addresses...
jm in Pryor OK...trying to keep my mind on my (new) job...Oscar's note has me wanting
VERY badly to get out to the shop to get back to work on MY Piet!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill_Sherwood <bill.sherwood@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Mar 5, 2007 6:07 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Really Newbie Questions
>
>
>Hello Everyone,
> My name is Bill Sherwood and I have not been involved in homebuilding for thirty
plus years. At the time I was building a Rand KR-1 but I never completed
it. I have purchased a complete set of plans from B. H. P. and Sons Air Camper
Aircraft LLC including the full size wing rib drawing. As a result I am going
to ask some REALLY NEWBIE questions.
> What is the glue/adhesive/bonding material of choice? I was using Weldwood product
which was a powder that I mixed with water.
> What is a good source for Sitka Spruce? At the time I ordered the wood from
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Company.
> Construction priority. I was planning on constructing the wing ribs first followed
by the tail feathers and then the fuselage construction. I would then
build the wing. I thought that this process sequence would reacquaint me with
wood construction. If this sequence of construction is not logical, please let
me know.
> What are the suppliers names for Model-A engines, propellers, radiators, etc?
> We are planning on attending the Piet get-together at Brodhead in July. We live
in the Houston, Texas area.
>
>Thanks for your patience,
>Bill :)
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98943#98943
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 41CC finally home |
Hey Oscar,
Great write up !! You've captured in words, all the thoughts and thrills of
flying this wonderful design.
It's an adventure every time you take to the air with 'er, and you'll
discover something new each and every flight.
I haven't yet done my first flight of the year, and now you've got me all
pumped up to go fly now...but I'm still in the middle of the Condition
Inspection.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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Subject: | Re: 41CC finally home |
Oscar,
Thanks for the inspiring account. Sounds like you have yourself a really
sweet plane. Makes me want to go build RIGHT NOW. I know for a fact that
if I was single I would finish this thing in 2 years tops. GAWD! what a
juggling act this is at times.
Take a short video of the plane (or the ground from the air) some time.
Lucky for you, your Piet IS a one of the beauty queens.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:12 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC finally home
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Howdy, Corky/Nathan, and all you Pietenpolers;
>
> Yesterday 41CC finally made it home after its 2+ year odyssey from
> Shreveport. What a memorable flight. My hangar-mate Randy Stout flew me
> down to Zapata in his Corvair-powered Zenith 601 (a very smooth and
> pleasant flight, 1.5 hr.). My instructor Charlie was feeling a little
> under the weather but by the time we got the airplane out of the hangar
> and fired up, he was hitting on all cylinders so up we went for a final
> checkout.
>
> Wind was probably 10-12 straight down the runway from the north, chilly,
> sky was clear and the bluebonnets are starting to come up in big patches
> along the runway. First landing was nearly perfect, second one was
> botched, third was mediocre so I called it good and we taxied to the pump
> to top it off. Randy departed (I had no hope of flying back with him, his
> cruise is 2x mine and he wanted to fly back at 5500', which would take me
> forever to climb to and was 34F at that altitude). We topped off the
> fuel, went into the line shack, Charlie signed me off in the Pietenpol and
> signed off my Sport Pilot currency endorsement, took a copy of my passport
> and certified that I'm not a terrorist alien (I'm not kidding... the TSA
> now requires instructors to verify and document citizenship before giving
> you instruction), and then it was just stalling tactics till I decided to
> launch into the blue.
>
> It was exhilarating to fly 41CC solo. She is a perfect lady to fly,
> honest and true. The first hour sailed by and I hit my waypoints pretty
> well, but it was obvious that the tailwind coming down was really going to
> hurt me going back. The second hour I was following Interstate 35 pretty
> much all the way so there was lots to see... the sun was shining on the
> airplane broadside so I made sure I kept close enough to the highway so
> everybody could see us up there. I'm sure she made a pretty sight. Speed
> on that section of the Interstate is 75, so lots of northbound traffic got
> a good look at the airplane as they moved out ahead of me.
>
> I landed in Cotulla to top off the fuel and stretch (man, that little seat
> gets hard after a couple of hours!) and made a perfect landing. Taxied to
> the pump and it took 8.0 gallons for 2.0 hrs. of flying time at cruise...
> exactly on the 4 gal./hr. performance numbers quoted for this engine. She
> is as predictable as Old Faithful geyser.
>
> The nice lady at the FBO commented on what a cute little airplane it was,
> how fast does it go, where was I headed, and what kind of airplane is it.
> Nobody has ever heard of a Pietenpol.
>
> The third, and final, hour was the longest. I will admit that I pushed
> the envelope because it was legal sunset by the time I spotted Castroville
> airport, which is close to San Geronimo but still 10-15 minutes away. The
> rotating beacon was already on at Castroville.
>
> I made a straight-in to the runway at San Geronimo, made a very acceptable
> landing, made the first turnoff to our hangar, and put the airplane away
> after 3.0 hrs. of x-c and a very uneventful flight. I never went over
> 2500' MSL (about 2000 AGL), didn't quite freeze my tail off but wish I
> would have so I wouldn't feel it so much, didn't do too badly folding and
> flipping my charts, only got lost once (just kidding), only worried about
> losing the engine once (okay, maybe a couple of times there over the
> uninhabited brush country of South Texas), never saw another airplane, and
> had a whale of a good time.
>
> Col. Zuniga, Texas Air Camper Organization, reporting mission completed
> and all is well on the Southern front. Awaiting next sortie assignment.
>
> Oscar "got my Piet wings" Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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Subject: | landing technique |
Greg wrote:
>Try the "Khe Sanh" approach, fly a tight pattern and keep it high on
>final.
>When you cross the fence pull the power to idle and push the nose down,
>and I mean WAY down. Round out to a normal flare and touch down.
Instead, I call my landing technique the "Que son?" ("what are those?" in
Spanish) approach. As in, "Hey, look! Did somebody leave some juicy tacos
laying on the runway numbers?" approach. Coming up abeam the numbers, pull
carb heat and reduce power. If there is no wind, power goes to idle. If
there is wind, hold maybe 1500 RPM. Either way, set 70MPH and do a circling
approach all the way down to the flare. I do lose sight of those tasty
tacos laying down there on the numbers, but regain my view of them as I
round out to final. I realize that 70 is a pretty high approach speed, but
give me a while till I hone my technique and get that down to 65 or 60. For
now, I need the extra margin and I'll take what I can get, especially with
plenty of runway to train on. After all, I climb out at 55 so I know it
will fly at that speed (with power, anyway).
By turn to final, I'm committed and if the airspeed isn't locked in, things
typically won't go well. If airspeed is good, everything is rosy until I
start the flare. My problem in the flare is that I need maybe another
couple of dozen landings before I get that picture burned into my mind and
do it automatically. Right now, my tendency is to flare it a bit high
because I can't quite judge how high I am from kissing the runway and I
don't want to slam it down. The spring gear and tires are great for the
little drop-ins I've done a time or two when flaring too high, but I want to
sharpen that up.
If my airspeed is off when I finish the roundout to final, all bets are off.
Staring at the airspeed indicator has been where I've blown it in this
department. Best way is to just sneak a glance at a critical moment, not to
actually look at the ASI because by then when I look up I'm done for.
As far as short field performance, Charlie aptly demonstrated 41CC's
capabilities by taking off on the ramp at Zapata, pointed directly at the
windsock across the runway from the ramp. I'm going to say 300 ft., but
that's into a good headwind. From my flight Sunday, I can vouch that the
Pietenpol with a good running A65 is an excellent short field performer
going up and coming down.
And I've got to try the "Khe Sanh" approach!
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Cold weather building |
Hello Group, Just wondering what tricks, techniques people use for cold weather
building, gluing imparticular. I am building wings for my biplane and am using
a "heat tent" to keep the wing warm enough for the glue to dry. My shop has
a wood burning stove that will burn me out of there with a good fire in it,
but I don't have time durring the week to mess around with it. I glued a wing
pannel togeather today and it's going to get down to 12 degrees tonight. Hopefully
my "tent" works and my t-88 cures. If anyone is interested the tent is
just a .8 mil plastic drop cloth draped over the wing pannel and a electric heater
fan. I just put the heater at one end of the bench and blow the hot air
under the plastic, with boards holding the plastic down on the sides and let
the plastic inflate. The heater fan blows down the span of the wing pannel and
out the other side. I should put a recording thermometer to record the lowest
temp while the heater runs to see how well this
works. If it keeps it above 50 degrees thats plenty for t-88.
Waiting for warm weather, for flying, and building,
Shad
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