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1. 01:07 AM - Another interesting Day. (Peter W Johnson)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: Another interesting Day. (Steve Singleton)
3. 04:50 AM - Emergency landing: Peter in Australia (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Really Newbie Questions (hvandervoo@aol.com)
5. 06:31 AM - Welcome Bill Sherwood (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
6. 10:48 AM - Re: Really Newbie Questions (HelsperSew@aol.com)
7. 11:20 AM - videos of 41CC (Oscar Zuniga)
8. 12:09 PM - Re: videos of 41CC ()
9. 01:09 PM - Model A Carb heat (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
10. 01:24 PM - Re: landing technique (walt evans)
11. 03:46 PM - Re: landing technique (Gene & Tammy)
12. 04:26 PM - Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood (horzpool@goldengate.net)
13. 05:32 PM - Oscar - SWRFI? (John B Franklin Jr)
14. 05:35 PM - Re: Really Newbie Questions (Bill_Sherwood)
15. 05:39 PM - Re: Welcome Bill Sherwood (Bill_Sherwood)
16. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Really Newbie Questions (HVandervoo@aol.com)
17. 06:02 PM - fuse step (Douwe Blumberg)
18. 06:15 PM - Re: videos of 41CC (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
19. 06:15 PM - A.S.S. Does it again (Scott Schreiber)
20. 06:20 PM - model A carb heat (Douwe Blumberg)
21. 06:31 PM - Re: fuse step (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
22. 06:40 PM - Wing Struts (skellytownflyer)
23. 07:20 PM - Re: A.S.S. Does it again (Catdesigns)
24. 07:21 PM - Re: Wing Struts (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
25. 09:59 PM - Re: A.S.S. Does it again (Scott Schreiber)
26. 10:02 PM - Re: Emergency landing: Peter in Australia (Peter W Johnson)
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| Subject: | Another interesting Day. |
Hi Guys,
Well, I had another interesting day in the Pietenpol today!
I experienced my first out landing. I went for a fly this morning to check
whether any changes I had made to baffling had improved my oil temps. The
wind on the ground was very calm, but after take off I found the winds aloft
were significantly higher. The oil temps were OK and I went a little farther
than I had planned. Turning for home the temps started to rise and with the
headwind, the time to get back to the airport was increasing.
I nearly made it. The temps reached about 280 F and the engine stopped,
briefly I think, but I shut it down and headed for the ground. I had to put
down two paddocks (fields) away from the threshold of the runway. There were
two drainage ditches in the field and I managed to get in and stopped
between them. I did a little damage to the undercarriage but otherwise all
was OK. I walked back to the airfield and eventually put the Peit on a
trailer and towed it back to the hangar.
First thing our airport manager did was to offer to sell me his old O-200
that he has just taken out of a C150.
So, tomorrow, I'll remove the engine and have a look to see what the damage
is. I will certainly have to look much more closely at the cooling of the
Corvair.
Other than the engine temps, the Piet is flying beautifully. I can't wait
for the engine temps to behave as well as the airplane!
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
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| Subject: | Re: Another interesting Day. |
Peter-Good to hear your OK. Steve S
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
<pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:06 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Another interesting Day.
> <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Well, I had another interesting day in the Pietenpol today!
>
> I experienced my first out landing. I went for a fly this morning to check
> whether any changes I had made to baffling had improved my oil temps. The
> wind on the ground was very calm, but after take off I found the winds
> aloft
> were significantly higher. The oil temps were OK and I went a little
> farther
> than I had planned. Turning for home the temps started to rise and with
> the
> headwind, the time to get back to the airport was increasing.
>
> I nearly made it. The temps reached about 280 F and the engine stopped,
> briefly I think, but I shut it down and headed for the ground. I had to
> put
> down two paddocks (fields) away from the threshold of the runway. There
> were
> two drainage ditches in the field and I managed to get in and stopped
> between them. I did a little damage to the undercarriage but otherwise all
> was OK. I walked back to the airfield and eventually put the Peit on a
> trailer and towed it back to the hangar.
>
> First thing our airport manager did was to offer to sell me his old O-200
> that he has just taken out of a C150.
>
> So, tomorrow, I'll remove the engine and have a look to see what the
> damage
> is. I will certainly have to look much more closely at the cooling of the
> Corvair.
>
> Other than the engine temps, the Piet is flying beautifully. I can't wait
> for the engine temps to behave as well as the airplane!
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://www.cpc-world.com
>
>
> --
> 9:41 AM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Emergency landing: Peter in Australia |
Glad to hear you landed safely Peter and that you've got an offer on an
0-200 engine. I don't
blame you for switching out to that while you investigate what is
happening with your Corvair.
When your oil temp. on the Corvair starts to rise so high do you get a
corresponding drop in oil
pressure ? We have a GN-1 in our area with a Continental engine and
the owners have tried to
do everything to keep that scenario from happening short of tearing down
the engine. I keep
pointing to either the oil pump or excessive clearances in the bearings.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Really Newbie Questions |
Bill,
Welcome to the list.
I have a Pietenpol Aircamper at Sky Lakes in Waller and will be giving a Pre
sentation at next chapter meeting of 774 at Sportflyers.I intend to be there
with my airplane.
Lonnie Tucker at Sportflyers has a Aircamper with a Model A, I believe he ha
d his engine build by someone in College Station.
Come to the meeting, It ain't Brodhead but a lot closer
Hans van der Voort
NX 15KV
-----Original Message-----
From: bill.sherwood@earthlink.net
Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Really Newbie Questions
nk.net>
Hello Everyone,
My name is Bill Sherwood and I have not been involved in homebuilding fo
r
thirty plus years. At the time I was building a Rand KR-1 but I never compl
eted
it. I have purchased a complete set of plans from B. H. P. and Sons Air Cam
per
Aircraft LLC including the full size wing rib drawing. As a result I am goi
ng
to ask some REALLY NEWBIE questions.
=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=A2 What is the glue/adhesive/bonding material of choice?
I was using Weldwood
product which was a powder that I mixed with water.
=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=A2 What is a good source for Sitka Spruce? At the time I
ordered the wood from
Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Company.
=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=A2 Construction priority. I was planning on constructing
the wing ribs first
followed by the tail feathers and then the fuselage construction. I would t
hen
build the wing. I thought that this process sequence would reacquaint me wi
th
wood construction. If this sequence of construction is not logical, please
let
me know.
=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=A2 What are the supplier=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s names f
or Model-A engines, propellers, radiators,
etc?
=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=A2 We are planning on attending the Piet get-together at
Brodhead in July. We
live in the Houston, Texas area.
Thanks for your patience,
Bill :)
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| Subject: | Welcome Bill Sherwood |
Hello Bill and welcome to the Pietenpol list. Glad to hear that you are
considering getting back into homebuilding. On your visit to Brodhead
you might consider taking a note pad, camera, video camera, & measuring
tape. Gather as much information as you can there so you can look back
over that info as you build. The group knows what I'm going to type
next: purchase all of the Tony Bingelis homebuilding books from EAA. I
see they are on sale now--buy all four for $69 if you can.
http://shop.eaa.org/html/04_books_bingelis.html?cart_id= Those books
were the best resource (in addition to this list) during my building
days on the Pietenpol. I used T-88 and was very happy with it. Bought
100% of my wood from Wicks. Aircraft Spruce for me is a waste of time
(service is horrible in some cases) and the folks at Wicks know
aircraft....the folks at ACS are just answering the phone. (your
experiences may vary) Jim Sury in the Needville-Fairchilds area SW of
Houston built a fine GN-1 and is a good gent who might be able to give
you some tips. (He recently converted his plane into a one-seater
(built a new fuselage) with long range (to Belize ?) tanks. I'm kidding
about the tanks but he did build a new fuselage. The list has a
searchable archive section and photoshare area where you can look up
postings from here to midnight next month. Have fun and glad you're
here.
Mike C. in Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Really Newbie Questions |
Bill,
That sequence is the one usually undertaken by a lot of builders. I made my
wing ribs first, tail feathers, then the entire wing. I am now about 80%
done with my fuse, with 40% to go on it. I will finish my plane on Tuesday.
:)
I used T-88 because everybody said it is bulletproof. I agree. I got all
my wood from A/C Spruce and had very good luck with them. Below is a lead for
you on Model A engines. I'm not sure how far Royce City is from Houston,
but at least it is in the same state.
Ron Kelley
1454 Blackland Lane
Royse City TX 75189
Phone
972-771-1911
_http://users.aol.com/gmaclaren/dyno.html_
(http://users.aol.com/gmaclaren/dyno.html)
Look forward to seeing you at Brodhead '07.
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Glenn wrote-
>Take a short video of the plane (or the ground from the air) some time.
Well, I don't know how to do videos and probably won't mess with it unless a
cinematographer wants to ride along with me and do it. I do better painting
word pictures than making videos, and this airplane sure gives me plenty of
material to paint my pictures with. You get the full effect of all senses
with this airplane, although I must admit that I have yet to catch a bug in
my teeth and engage my sense of taste ;o) There are several splattered on
the windscreens, though.
>Lucky for you, your Piet IS one of the beauty queens.
Honestly, Corky did finish the airplane up very nicely but my objective in
the repairs has not been to maintain it in a meticulous level of finish. I
am reminded that this airplane was conceived and designed by a farm boy,
built on a farm using readily available materials, was intended to operate
out of barnyards and farm fields, and all of this was way before Stits, air
compressors, vinyl graphics, AN hardware, computers, and all the rest of it.
I painted my fabric patches using horsehair brushes working straight out of
the Poly-Tone can, or else I used Rust-Oleum rattle cans from Lowe's if the
color matched close enough. If you approach the airplane any closer than
about 20 ft., you might as well not start looking for flaws because you'll
never stop finding them. It's a clean and simple job but no award winner.
I don't want people to feel like they can't approach or touch it; quite the
contrary, and I don't want to have to cordon it off at fly-ins. If you
don't feel the wood and fabric on this airplane, you never know what a
Pietenpol really is, do you? If things break, I can fix 'em, patch 'em,
paint 'em, or do 'em over. And I sure know how to use a horsehair brush but
a spray gun is a lot of hassle to me.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Mines no beauty queen either Oscar but she still draws a lot of attention at
flyins.I could make it look somewhat better with a coat of urathane on the
inside around the cockpit area both front and back.I had a kid sit on the
elevator once at a flyin.One of the other guys told me about it.I didn't see
it at the time.I had to adjust the cables a little but other than that I
don't mind people touching my aircraft as long as they are not
milicious.I've seen some pretty neat stuff on the web but I'm not that
maticulous and when it does get too good then I don't feel like I want to
touch it for fear of messing it up.
do not archive
>From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: videos of 41CC
>Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:20:37 -0600
>
><taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>Glenn wrote-
>
>>Take a short video of the plane (or the ground from the air) some time.
>
>Well, I don't know how to do videos and probably won't mess with it unless
>a cinematographer wants to ride along with me and do it. I do better
>painting word pictures than making videos, and this airplane sure gives me
>plenty of material to paint my pictures with. You get the full effect of
>all senses with this airplane, although I must admit that I have yet to
>catch a bug in my teeth and engage my sense of taste ;o) There are several
>splattered on the windscreens, though.
>
>>Lucky for you, your Piet IS one of the beauty queens.
>
>Honestly, Corky did finish the airplane up very nicely but my objective in
>the repairs has not been to maintain it in a meticulous level of finish. I
>am reminded that this airplane was conceived and designed by a farm boy,
>built on a farm using readily available materials, was intended to operate
>out of barnyards and farm fields, and all of this was way before Stits, air
>compressors, vinyl graphics, AN hardware, computers, and all the rest of
>it.
>
>I painted my fabric patches using horsehair brushes working straight out of
>the Poly-Tone can, or else I used Rust-Oleum rattle cans from Lowe's if the
>color matched close enough. If you approach the airplane any closer than
>about 20 ft., you might as well not start looking for flaws because you'll
>never stop finding them. It's a clean and simple job but no award winner.
>I don't want people to feel like they can't approach or touch it; quite the
>contrary, and I don't want to have to cordon it off at fly-ins. If you
>don't feel the wood and fabric on this airplane, you never know what a
>Pietenpol really is, do you? If things break, I can fix 'em, patch 'em,
>paint 'em, or do 'em over. And I sure know how to use a horsehair brush
>but a spray gun is a lot of hassle to me.
>
>Oscar Zuniga
>San Antonio, TX
>mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
>website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>With tax season right around the corner, make sure to follow these few
>simple tips.
>http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Taxes/PreparationTips/PreparationTips.aspx?icid=HMFebtagline
>
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| Subject: | Model A Carb heat |
Dan: I think the loss of power with carb heat on all the time is a moot
point, because from all I have been told, the alternative is that the
Ford will freeze up and die without it. Remember the Oldsmobile in the
movie Christmas story? It would freeze up driving on the equator in
July! Evidently so does the A. Remember in the car the intake manifold
is bolted directly to the exhaust manifold for heat to transfer to the
intake/carb. I think if you had an on-off control it would be in the
'on' all the time any way, so just save the weight and leave the control
off. Instead of steel wool in the heat muff, I am going to wrap a screen
door around the pipe and enclose it with the carb heat shroud. I've
also seen pictures of the A with a metal schroud in front of the
vertical part of the intake above the carb. to where the manifold
branches off to the cyls. It was to keep the prop blast off that part of
the intake. I never heard how that worked out. Leon S. In Ks. where it's
67deg. today. Still would need carb. heat if I were fying today.
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| Subject: | Re: landing technique |
Oscar,
A great instructor, Damian, at the next airport over, loved my Pietenpol. I
asked him for landing advise, and what he told me really helped. Bye the
way he taught Harrison Ford the Dehaviland <sp> Beaver for his tailwheel
endorsement, cause he did his own flying in his movie.
I climb out at 55mph, and approach about the same, but at the flare point
add some power, maybe 1000/1200 rpm to drag you thru the sink. And as
Damian put it, it gives you lots more control on the rudder with the
windage, to avoid the chance of groundloop.
Now thats my norm, especially on wheel landings, you can just feel, feel,
feel for the runway.
Ain't life Grand!
walt evans
NX140DL
"Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 10:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: landing technique
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Greg wrote:
>
>>Try the "Khe Sanh" approach, fly a tight pattern and keep it high on
>>final.
>>When you cross the fence pull the power to idle and push the nose down,
>>and I mean WAY down. Round out to a normal flare and touch down.
>
> Instead, I call my landing technique the "Que son?" ("what are those?" in
> Spanish) approach. As in, "Hey, look! Did somebody leave some juicy
> tacos laying on the runway numbers?" approach. Coming up abeam the
> numbers, pull carb heat and reduce power. If there is no wind, power goes
> to idle. If there is wind, hold maybe 1500 RPM. Either way, set 70MPH
> and do a circling approach all the way down to the flare. I do lose sight
> of those tasty tacos laying down there on the numbers, but regain my view
> of them as I round out to final. I realize that 70 is a pretty high
> approach speed, but give me a while till I hone my technique and get that
> down to 65 or 60. For now, I need the extra margin and I'll take what I
> can get, especially with plenty of runway to train on. After all, I climb
> out at 55 so I know it will fly at that speed (with power, anyway).
>
> By turn to final, I'm committed and if the airspeed isn't locked in,
> things typically won't go well. If airspeed is good, everything is rosy
> until I start the flare. My problem in the flare is that I need maybe
> another couple of dozen landings before I get that picture burned into my
> mind and do it automatically. Right now, my tendency is to flare it a bit
> high because I can't quite judge how high I am from kissing the runway and
> I don't want to slam it down. The spring gear and tires are great for the
> little drop-ins I've done a time or two when flaring too high, but I want
> to sharpen that up.
>
> If my airspeed is off when I finish the roundout to final, all bets are
> off. Staring at the airspeed indicator has been where I've blown it in
> this department. Best way is to just sneak a glance at a critical moment,
> not to actually look at the ASI because by then when I look up I'm done
> for.
>
> As far as short field performance, Charlie aptly demonstrated 41CC's
> capabilities by taking off on the ramp at Zapata, pointed directly at the
> windsock across the runway from the ramp. I'm going to say 300 ft., but
> that's into a good headwind. From my flight Sunday, I can vouch that the
> Pietenpol with a good running A65 is an excellent short field performer
> going up and coming down.
>
> And I've got to try the "Khe Sanh" approach!
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: landing technique |
Walt,
I land N502R the same way but add only 50 to 100 RPM. The very first
landing I did in my Piet I didn't add any and it was the worst landing I
have ever made in my life (at the top of the bounce I had enough height to
just add power and stay in the pattern). Coming back around, at flare I
added the 50 to 100 RPM's and my landing made me proud. That landing gave
me the confidence that without further ado I headed out for home (Florida to
Tennessee).
Gene
(hopefully getting my engine case back this next week so I can rebuild the
engine and be flying within the month.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: landing technique
>
> Oscar,
> A great instructor, Damian, at the next airport over, loved my Pietenpol.
> I asked him for landing advise, and what he told me really helped. Bye
> the way he taught Harrison Ford the Dehaviland <sp> Beaver for his
> tailwheel endorsement, cause he did his own flying in his movie.
> I climb out at 55mph, and approach about the same, but at the flare point
> add some power, maybe 1000/1200 rpm to drag you thru the sink. And as
> Damian put it, it gives you lots more control on the rudder with the
> windage, to avoid the chance of groundloop.
> Now thats my norm, especially on wheel landings, you can just feel, feel,
> feel for the runway.
> Ain't life Grand!
> walt evans
> NX140DL
>
> "Put your wealth in knowledge, and no one can ever take it from you"
> Ben Franklin
> The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Greg Cardinal - plywood |
Ken
Out of curiousity, what is the the CPO title after your name?
Dick N.
> Corky,
>
> Glad to hear from you.....Yes with all this snow it is a bit tricky.
> Please let me know if you find the serial number on the frame somewhere
> which verifies the data plate concerning the L4 designation. must be a
> misprint. I did send the paper work back to you ....with snail mail
> might take 10 days.....is Louisiana still apart of the continental US?
> Send photos when you can....Tell David I said hello and miss his smile!!
>
> Ken
>
> Isablcorky@aol.com wrote:
> Ken,
>
> How do you carry plywood on a snowmobile?
>
> Corky
>
> Do not archive
>
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Oscar,
You are bringing your Piet to SWRFI this year, right? Hope to see you there.
Regards,
John F.
GN-1 in progress
Richmond, TX
>
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| Subject: | Re: Really Newbie Questions |
Hans,
Can you tell me the date and time of the next chapter meeting of 774? I
plan on being there for your presentation as well as view your Aircamper [Laughing]
. Will Lonnie Tucker be there as well [Question]
Dan,
I noticed you did not mention which Tuesday [Laughing] .
Thanks,
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Welcome Bill Sherwood |
Thanks Mike for the WELCOME and Information.
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| Subject: | Re: Really Newbie Questions |
Bill,
Should be next week Thursday evening at 7, at Leonard Millhollands hangar.
Everything is still tentative, and should be firmed up by this weekend.
I will send you the details later
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Hi guys,
I built a step in my fuse that has a self-closing, spring loaded
faceplate/flap in the fuse side. I placed the entire thing so that when
I place my foot inside, I am stepping on the edge of the seat. It seems
to work very well so far.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: videos of 41CC |
Oscar.....
DITTOS!
Ken H
Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
Glenn wrote-
>Take a short video of the plane (or the ground from the air) some time.
Well, I don't know how to do videos and probably won't mess with it unless a
cinematographer wants to ride along with me and do it. I do better painting
word pictures than making videos, and this airplane sure gives me plenty of
material to paint my pictures with. You get the full effect of all senses
with this airplane, although I must admit that I have yet to catch a bug in
my teeth and engage my sense of taste ;o) There are several splattered on
the windscreens, though.
>Lucky for you, your Piet IS one of the beauty queens.
Honestly, Corky did finish the airplane up very nicely but my objective in
the repairs has not been to maintain it in a meticulous level of finish. I
am reminded that this airplane was conceived and designed by a farm boy,
built on a farm using readily available materials, was intended to operate
out of barnyards and farm fields, and all of this was way before Stits, air
compressors, vinyl graphics, AN hardware, computers, and all the rest of it.
I painted my fabric patches using horsehair brushes working straight out of
the Poly-Tone can, or else I used Rust-Oleum rattle cans from Lowe's if the
color matched close enough. If you approach the airplane any closer than
about 20 ft., you might as well not start looking for flaws because you'll
never stop finding them. It's a clean and simple job but no award winner.
I don't want people to feel like they can't approach or touch it; quite the
contrary, and I don't want to have to cordon it off at fly-ins. If you
don't feel the wood and fabric on this airplane, you never know what a
Pietenpol really is, do you? If things break, I can fix 'em, patch 'em,
paint 'em, or do 'em over. And I sure know how to use a horsehair brush but
a spray gun is a lot of hassle to me.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | A.S.S. Does it again |
This is a new one on me, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty sent me an email
today explaining why the bolts I was waiting on to put the last of my
landing gear together didn't show up when I was expecting them at any
moment from what they said at the time the order was placed.
"We have cancelled your backorder due to the low value of goods. If
> you find that you still need these items or any other products, please
> contact us and we will ship the order to you as quickly as possible.
> We look forward to serving you again soon"
On the good side, I did get my fuselage side strut mount parts cut.
-Scott Schreiber
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| Subject: | model A carb heat |
Hi Dan,
I honestly don't know why or even IF this engine NEEDS more carb heat
for some reason than any other engine. I do know that the stock carb is
very prone to icing up. Maybe it's the placement of the carb, or
venturi design, but it will ice up fairly easily. When I interviewed
actual Model A flyers before I decided to go that route, I talked to a
fair number who had experienced icing.
As to HP loss, I would have to image it would be similar to pulling carb
heat on a certified aircraft engine, probably a around 50 rpm drop, and
you're right, you don't really have it to spare!
The usual carb heat fix on a model A works fine. I've seen guys wrap
springs around the front pipe inside the can to slow and heat the air.
Stainless scrubbees work well too, just be sure they can't get sucked
in.
I am using a weber carb on mine, and it'll ice up too. I am using what
seems to be a very slick carb heat system I got from culver prop/valley
engineering. It sounds odd but it has worked for their engines and is
working great on my A which is currently on a test stand. It consists
of a small tube running from the base of an exhaust pipe (I chose my
leanest cylinder) to a hole tapped in the bottom of the carb. The pipe
enters the carb base and is aimed into the primary venturi. The hot gas
heats the venturi and plenum, NOT the intake air so ice won't form on
the metal plenum or venturi because it is being warmed, but the mixture
isn't getting heated air. I was worried about contamination from the
exhaust gasses, but was assured it didn't occur, which has proved to be
the case with mine. No ice, and no rpm drop and no moving parts. So
far, so good.
Don't see why it wouldn't work on a stock A carb, though like I said,
the usual heat box works fine. It also wouldn't be a big deal to
fabricate an on off heat box, though I think you'd find you'd need it on
much of the time, and since it warms the air, it'll rob you of some rpm.
Douwe
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Douwe,
Can you send some photos my way or where I can see the modification? All I could
come up with for easy access into the rear cockpit was a folding aluminum
mast step from Marine Supply. It bolts on with three bolts and fold back into
itself for a smooth look.
Ken H.
Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi guys,
I built a step in my fuse that has a self-closing, spring loaded faceplate/flap
in the fuse side. I placed the entire thing so that when I place my foot inside,
I am stepping on the edge of the seat. It seems to work very well so far.
Douwe
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I have finally gotten home with the new to me project DJ put so much time and effort
into.and hopefully in the near future can start making progress on it.But
I had concerns about using the Aluminum wing struts before Talking to Oscar
Zuniga,and he assured me that both he and others are flying them and doing fine(as
in staying alive I assume) but I did think of an alternate source for streamlined
material.I haven't measurd my old Tri-pacer yet to see if they are long
enough without splicing,but there are many folks flying the old Ragwing Pipers
that have gone to the Univair sealed struts to do away with the repetitive
testing requirement.And they have their old struts laying around and would sell
them hopefully at a reasonable cost.So if anyone thinks they are interested
in getting some I have a friend that is on the Shortwing Piper club sit and can
forward some names.Raymond
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| Subject: | Re: A.S.S. Does it again |
Hey Scott, what do you need? I'm going over to Sacramento Skyranch at
lunch tomorrow to buy bolts for my landing gear. I can pick you up
something and send it to you. This way you wont have to pay their
minimum shipping charge. I know everyone says they will cost more but I
like the fact that I can buy the right bolts the first time.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A.S.S. Does it again
This is a new one on me, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty sent me an
email today explaining why the bolts I was waiting on to put the last of
my landing gear together didn't show up when I was expecting them at any
moment from what they said at the time the order was placed.
"We have cancelled your backorder due to the low value of goods. If
> you find that you still need these items or any other products,
please
> contact us and we will ship the order to you as quickly as possible.
> We look forward to serving you again soon"
On the good side, I did get my fuselage side strut mount parts cut.
-Scott Schreiber
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I'm nowhere near that point of construction but I've heard about the cub
wing strut swap-out that a lot of people did (or were required to do). I
think Walt had mentioned that if you poke around there are a lot of old cub
wing struts sitting up in the rafters of hangars. Not sure how they hold up
in storage but I'd be interested in getting a set in airworthy condition if
the price was reasonable.
Thanks,
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "skellytownflyer" <hanover@centramedia.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Struts
> <hanover@centramedia.net>
>
> I have finally gotten home with the new to me project DJ put so much time
> and effort into.and hopefully in the near future can start making progress
> on it.But I had concerns about using the Aluminum wing struts before
> Talking to Oscar Zuniga,and he assured me that both he and others are
> flying them and doing fine(as in staying alive I assume) but I did think
> of an alternate source for streamlined material.I haven't measurd my old
> Tri-pacer yet to see if they are long enough without splicing,but there
> are many folks flying the old Ragwing Pipers that have gone to the Univair
> sealed struts to do away with the repetitive testing requirement.And they
> have their old struts laying around and would sell them hopefully at a
> reasonable cost.So if anyone thinks they are interested in getting some I
> have a friend that is on the Shortwing Piper club sit and can forward some
> names.Raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=99177#99177
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A.S.S. Does it again |
Thanks for the offer, but I already re-ordered. I really need to look
into what local (ish) sources I might have.
-Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Catdesigns
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A.S.S. Does it again
Hey Scott, what do you need? I'm going over to Sacramento Skyranch at
lunch tomorrow to buy bolts for my landing gear. I can pick you up
something and send it to you. This way you wont have to pay their
minimum shipping charge. I know everyone says they will cost more but I
like the fact that I can buy the right bolts the first time.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A.S.S. Does it again
This is a new one on me, Aircraft Spruce and Specialty sent me an
email today explaining why the bolts I was waiting on to put the last of
my landing gear together didn't show up when I was expecting them at any
moment from what they said at the time the order was placed.
"We have cancelled your backorder due to the low value of goods.
If
> you find that you still need these items or any other products,
please
> contact us and we will ship the order to you as quickly as
possible.
> We look forward to serving you again soon"
On the good side, I did get my fuselage side strut mount parts cut.
-Scott Schreiber
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| Subject: | Emergency landing: Peter in Australia |
Mike,
I wish the offer was for the use of the O-200, he wants to sell it to me! I
don't think he is a great lover of auto engines in airplanes. Yes, I do get
a decrease in pressure as the temp rises, but only on slow running.
Cheers
Peter.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:50 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Emergency landing: Peter in Australia
<michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Glad to hear you landed safely Peter and that you've got an offer on an
0-200 engine. I don't
blame you for switching out to that while you investigate what is
happening with your Corvair.
When your oil temp. on the Corvair starts to rise so high do you get a
corresponding drop in oil
pressure ? We have a GN-1 in our area with a Continental engine and
the owners have tried to
do everything to keep that scenario from happening short of tearing down
the engine. I keep
pointing to either the oil pump or excessive clearances in the bearings.
Mike C.
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