---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/23/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:43 AM - Re: aircraft registration form 8050-1 (MICHAEL SILVIUS) 2. 05:46 AM - Re: New to the list... (MICHAEL SILVIUS) 3. 07:11 AM - registration answer (skellytownflyer) 4. 07:23 AM - Santiago: donde estas? (santiago morete) 5. 07:24 AM - Re: Piets in Middle TN (Wayne E. Bressler Jr.) 6. 07:35 AM - Re: Santiago: donde estas? () 7. 07:38 AM - Re: Santiago: donde estas? (HelsperSew@aol.com) 8. 07:44 AM - Re: Santiago: donde estas? () 9. 08:12 AM - Re: pulley diameter (Tom Bernie) 10. 08:43 AM - Re: pulley diameter () 11. 12:33 PM - Re: New to the list... (walt evans) 12. 08:53 PM - Got the engine in hand (Scott Schreiber) 13. 09:30 PM - Got the engine in hand (Oscar Zuniga) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:35 AM PST US From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: aircraft registration form 8050-1 how about using the serial number on the plans that came w/ DJ's project??? in fact if I remember correctly you should have 2 sets of plans. One of the older small format 11X18 plans and the large format ones should be, if not the first in that series prety dang close to it, as DJ assisted in the development of the large format plans for the GN1 and if I recall correctly was the first to have a set. michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "skellytownflyer" > > > I am in the process of filling out my registration forms for this project I bought from D.J. - on the line marked aircraft serial number-is that to be the plans serial number I have,or just a number I pick for it? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:54 AM PST US From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list... Max: check ebay right now there is a set listed under aircraft/plans you may also want to look under projects ast there is a a nice steel bare fuse project for sale quite reasonably priced. michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Hegler" > > Hello, > I am new to the list and would like to build a Peitenpol. I am looking for > a set of plans if anyone has an unused set or the address where I can order > a set if they are still available. > > Thanks, > Max ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: registration answer From: "skellytownflyer" Well I got about the same number answers for both choices.Called the FAA office this morning like I should have done and talked to a lady in the inspection department.She said whatever turns you on it doesn't matter! so I think I will put my plans number in that box and go with that but it is entirely up to the person registering it if it is plans built.thanks for the advice.Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102476#102476 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:37 AM PST US From: santiago morete Subject: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? Hi Oscar!! I agree, let's exchange pictures : ) I live in Santa Rosa, La Pampa, about 375 miles south of Cdoba (where Patagonia begins). If you see the Marcelo Matocq's trip http://www.hangar57.com/Cristobal%20Colon%20.htm you will find thats not funny to fly over the Amazonas with a used Rotax engine! For the water, he use a truck tube connected to a fire extinguisher to inflate it, and fill the wings with inflated condoms! I would really like to mount in one of those fat multi engines whales and visit Brodhead sometime. For now, let's exchange pictures. --------------------------------- Pregunt. Respond. Descubr. Todo lo que queras saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:48 AM PST US From: "Wayne E. Bressler Jr." Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Piets in Middle TN Max, I used to live in Murfreesboro, and I believe there was a man that was building a Piet there. I can't remember his name, but he owned the motorcycle shop there in town. Not the Harley place, but the Japanese bike shop. He also built a Thorp T-18 that his son is currently flying out at MBT. Look up the EAA chapter there, and they'll be able to point you in the right direction. There was also a Piet based at the Lebanon, TN airport. Last I saw it, it hadn't been flown yet, but was very close. That was well over a year ago, so I'm sure it's been flown by now! -Wayne wayne@taildraggersinc.com www.taildraggersinc.com Max Hegler wrote: > > Hello Don, > I live just west of Columbia, TN. I have actually been looking at > Pietenpols since the early 60's. Just took retirement to get me to > started. > > Thanks, > Max ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:03 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? From: Nice clean workmanship; I can't wait to see the finished product. You do nice work down there! Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago morete Sent: March 23, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? Hi Oscar!! I agree, let's exchange pictures : ) I live in Santa Rosa, La Pampa, about 375 miles south of C=F3doba (where Patagonia begins). If you see the Marcelo Matocq's trip http://www.hangar57.com/Cristobal%20Colon%20.htm you will find that=B4s not funny to fly over the Amazonas with a used Rotax engine! For the water, he use a truck tube connected to a fire extinguisher to inflate it, and fill the wings with inflated condoms! I would really like to mount in one of those fat multi engines whales and visit Brodhead sometime. For now, let's exchange pictures. ________________________________ Pregunt=E1. Respond=E9. Descubr=ED. Todo lo que quer=EDas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est=E1 en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:31 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? Santiago, Oh my Gosh your airplane is beautiful !!! (lindo). Too pretty to cover up. Obviously you have taken great care in every part. When you decide to visit Brodhead you can stay at my home. I am only 40 miles away and we can fly from here to there. As you might have surmised from my posts it is obvious I speak fluent Spanish, so communication will not be a problem. :0) Hasta viene a Brodhead, Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL (C77) do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:21 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? From: I once seen an airplane covered in mylar so you could see through it.This looks like the perfect plane to that with so people can see this beautiful workmanship. Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: March 23, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Santiago: donde estas? Santiago, Oh my Gosh your airplane is beautiful !!! (lindo). Too pretty to cover up. Obviously you have taken great care in every part. When you decide to visit Brodhead you can stay at my home. I am only 40 miles away and we can fly from here to there. As you might have surmised from my posts it is obvious I speak fluent Spanish, so communication will not be a problem. :0) Hasta viene a Brodhead, Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL (C77) do not archive ________________________________ AAOL at AOL.com . ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:42 AM PST US From: "Tom Bernie" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: pulley diameter I'm using MS24566-3B pulleys on my GN-1. The attached photo shows the wing pulleys done per the cad plans. The center section pulleys are much more complicated -- the plans are wrong (just one of dozens of errors). The drawing was fudged to make the pulley fit on the spar. In reality the bottom of the pulley protrudes through the bottom of the wing. The center section pulleys have to be staggered so the cables don't interfere and canted 3 degrees aft because of the placement of the aileron control horn on the front stick. Good Luck. Tom Bernie Gloucester Mass -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytownflyer Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: pulley diameter I am getting ready to rig the aileron cables on my GN-1.I see in the plans that it calls for AN-210.I do not see the diameter and from looking at the plans the only thing I can find to give a size is the pulley guard distance of 1 1/16 - that indicates to me that the 2" O.D. ones are big enough though from reading the A/S catalog I'm not sure those are acceptible for flight controls on 90 degree bends.Is this what most are using? Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101999#101999 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:17 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: pulley diameter From: Yup that's about right from what I see on mine. As you can see I used cover plates cut in half to cover part of the hole and still leave the pulley sticking out below it. I considered using leather to cover the holes but I thought maybe on a real bad day the leather would get into the pulley and I'd be in a world of trouble. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Bernie Sent: March 23, 2007 11:09 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: pulley diameter I'm using MS24566-3B pulleys on my GN-1. The attached photo shows the wing pulleys done per the cad plans. The center section pulleys are much more complicated -- the plans are wrong (just one of dozens of errors). The drawing was fudged to make the pulley fit on the spar. In reality the bottom of the pulley protrudes through the bottom of the wing. The center section pulleys have to be staggered so the cables don't interfere and canted 3 degrees aft because of the placement of the aileron control horn on the front stick. Good Luck. Tom Bernie Gloucester Mass -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of skellytownflyer Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: pulley diameter I am getting ready to rig the aileron cables on my GN-1.I see in the plans that it calls for AN-210.I do not see the diameter and from looking at the plans the only thing I can find to give a size is the pulley guard distance of 1 1/16 - that indicates to me that the 2" O.D. ones are big enough though from reading the A/S catalog I'm not sure those are acceptible for flight controls on 90 degree bends.Is this what most are using? Raymond Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101999#101999 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:48 PM PST US From: "walt evans" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New to the list... Max, Go here,,, http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol It shows all the Piets and their builders (that have added theirs) Add yourself, as a potential builder Walt Evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Hegler" Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: New to the list... > > Hello, > I am new to the list and would like to build a Peitenpol. I am looking > for a set of plans if anyone has an unused set or the address where I can > order a set if they are still available. > > Thanks, > Max > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:16 PM PST US From: "Scott Schreiber" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Got the engine in hand Picked it up today after a 10 hour round trip, A65-8 130h SMOH with two mags, prop hub, and carb. I need to ferret out a few things, eyebrows, aircleaner assembly, and I am sure a few small items. I need to fab up my exhaust system and need to do some research on carb heat and other such details. http://www.subarubrat.com/misc/Pietengine.jpg -Scott ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:17 PM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Got the engine in hand Scott; I looked at the photo of your A65. that piece of junk is dangerous and you should never fly behind it in a Piet or anything else. Get rid of it immediately. I'll give you $150 for it right now! ;o) The engine is the heart of your Piet, isn't it? You build the boat, the gear, the tail feathers, the controls, even the wings- but it doesn't have a heartbeat until that engine is in your hands. When that mass of metal comes into the shop, even before you tighten the bolts that hold the engine mount to the airframe, flight suddenly becomes possible! I love engines. They are big, heavy hunks of metal but they are the hearts, too. I love the smell of exhaust, and fuel, and oil, and all of that comes from the engine. Mind you, the higher plane of this feeling is when you have a radial engine, but a pancake four will do just fine for everyday, too! And considering that the engine represents probably half the cost of your airplane (if not more), when you have that piece and the prop safely in the shop, you're looking at little piddly costs from then until the end of the project. You're over the hump. Good on you, Scott. Put the heart in your airplane and you will be so much closer to flying! The heartbeat will be ready as soon as you hook that fuel line to the carb and the ignition switches to the mags. From there, it's downhill and the next thing you know, you'll be lining up on the runway centerline with the throttle ready to go full forward. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! 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