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     4. 07:22 AM - Re: 41CC cruise performance (walt evans)
     5. 08:54 AM - Carl's mill and lathe (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 10:08 AM - Re: 41CC cruise performance (Rick Holland)
     7. 10:58 AM - High pressure water blaster safety (walt evans)
     8. 01:14 PM - 41CC cruise performance (Oscar Zuniga)
     9. 01:25 PM - GN-1 plans (DJ Vegh)
    10. 03:15 PM - Re: New prospectuve builder (larryb)
    11. 03:17 PM - Re: High pressure water blaster safety (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
    12. 04:38 PM - Re: 41CC cruise performance (Gene & Tammy)
    13. 04:57 PM - Re: (no subject) (Gene & Tammy)
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    18. 07:53 PM - 41CC cruise performance (Oscar Zuniga)
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| Subject:  | 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      
      Ya,right ,high speed pass,I hear ya.I remember once I did what I thought
      was a high speed pass in an ultralight called a Lazair.I even called it
      in.All the guys layed on the ground as if to simulate my pressure wave
      had knocked them down.I was doing 30 mph.Who knows what the ground speed
      was but it was less than 30 for sure.What a hoot.When I landed everybody
      said in unison "high speed pass eh"!Right!Thanks for the flight Oscar.
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar
      Zuniga
      Sent: March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC cruise performance
      
      <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      
      Well, today was a bit windy but it was pretty much right down the runway
      so 
      I went up for a while.  Trimmed out in level cruise with about 1/2 tank
      and 
      just me aboard, things settled down and I intentionally set 2350 RPM on
      the 
      tach (not sure if it's calibrated though).  Level cruise about 68 MPH 
      indicated.  This is Pietenpol country.
      
      If I firewall the throttle I can increase cruise to 70-75 easily, but
      the 
      airplane feels like it's fighting me a little bit and I have to keep my
      head 
      down behind the windscreen.  If I set things like they really want to
      be, I 
      can hold my head normally and things settle down pretty well.
      
      I made a high-speed pass again, but with a 15-20 MPH headwind right down
      the 
      runway, nobody was impressed when 41CC came purring down the runway at a
      
      groundspeed just a little better than the tractor that was mowing the
      areas 
      alongside the runway.
      
      My landing wasn't anything to write home about, but the wind was at
      least 
      15, quartering when I touched down, so I was happy.  The tires and
      spring 
      gear take all the embarassment out of bounced landings, I'm glad to say.
      
      This is a fun airplane!
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Carl Vought's projects... | 
      
      Ken:
      
      I believe I heard that was Mark Langford KR builder par-excelance over 
      at the Corvair list.
      
      michael
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP 
      
        Oscar & Max..........
      
        I wished I knew who ended up with the Bridgeport Mill and lathe.....I 
      heard it went for $2,800.00 including all tooling...... Rats!
      
        Ken H
        Fargo, ND
      
      
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      Pieters,
      Am involved in a nasty job. Cleaning a fuel tank coated with fuel varnish.  
      Anyone who could offer a suggestion to make this job a bit easier but still  
      thorough I would appreciate hearing from
      Corky( Aeronca Defender  Tank)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      
      Oscar,
      Read your performance stats,,,doesn't  that had a 65 on it?
      What prop?
      thanks
      Walt Evans
      NX140DL
      "No one ever learned anything by talking"
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC cruise performance
      
      
      > <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >
      > Well, today was a bit windy but it was pretty much right down the runway 
      > so I went up for a while.  Trimmed out in level cruise with about 1/2 tank 
      > and just me aboard, things settled down and I intentionally set 2350 RPM 
      > on the tach (not sure if it's calibrated though).  Level cruise about 68 
      > MPH indicated.  This is Pietenpol country.
      >
      > If I firewall the throttle I can increase cruise to 70-75 easily, but the 
      > airplane feels like it's fighting me a little bit and I have to keep my 
      > head down behind the windscreen.  If I set things like they really want to 
      > be, I can hold my head normally and things settle down pretty well.
      >
      > I made a high-speed pass again, but with a 15-20 MPH headwind right down 
      > the runway, nobody was impressed when 41CC came purring down the runway at 
      > a groundspeed just a little better than the tractor that was mowing the 
      > areas alongside the runway.
      >
      > My landing wasn't anything to write home about, but the wind was at least 
      > 15, quartering when I touched down, so I was happy.  The tires and spring 
      > gear take all the embarassment out of bounced landings, I'm glad to say. 
      > This is a fun airplane!
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
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| Subject:  | Carl's mill and lathe | 
      
      
      Oh, I know exactly where Carl's mill and lathe went.  They are now in Mark 
      Langford's shop in Harvest, AL.  Mark is the guru of KR building and has a 
      fabulous wealth of information on KRs and Corvairs on his website, is the 
      list admin on the KRNet and Corvaircraft lists, and was featured in the KR 
      article in Sport Aviation in December.  He is a really great guy.
      
      Mark took the photos and put up the website that showed Carl's Piet projects 
      and did the talking with Barbara Vought to get his stuff sold at a fair 
      price.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      Oscar
      
      Just put a smoke system on that thing like Mike and Chuck's and they will be
      impressed (or they will be scarred to death, call the fire department, then
      send you the bill when they figure out that your Piet is designed to smoke).
      
      Rick
      
      >
      >
      > I made a high-speed pass again, but with a 15-20 MPH headwind right down
      > the
      > runway, nobody was impressed when 41CC came purring down the runway at a
      > groundspeed just a little better than the tractor that was mowing the
      > areas
      > alongside the runway.
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | High pressure water blaster safety | 
      
      Juat wanted to share pics of the almost healed leg of a co-worker.
      Went thru his calf like a 32 cal.
      Be careful when cleaning those greasy engine rebuilds.
      
      do not archive
      
      Walt Evans
      NX140DL
      "No one ever learned anything by talking"
      
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| Subject:  | 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      
      Walt asks-
      
      >Read your performance stats,,,doesn't  that had a 65 on it?
      >What prop?
      
      Yes, it has an A65 on it and the prop is a Hegy 72x42 prop on it.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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      finally heard back from Bob Grega today via email.  He does not want the 
      GN-1 plans distributed in any way shape or form.  So I guess for now at 
      least it looks like the GN-1 may fall by the wayside since plans are 
      currently unavailable and no telling when or if they ever will be.
      
      To those who are looking for GN-1 plans... I guess just try to see if anyone 
      who bought a set and has not decided to build from them may sell them to 
      you...  or go the authentic route and get Pietenpol plans.
      
      
      DJ
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New prospectuve builder | 
      
      
      Ray - I live in Conyers and also had an interest in both GN-1 and the Pete. I was
      surprised to see from DJ Vegh's post that the GN-1 is not currently available.
      But I'll tell you what one fellow told me. I was asking him about the differences,
      and how I was confused about which way to go, and he finally asked me,
      "Do you want advice from someone who has built and flown both the Pete and the
      GN-1?" I said, "Sure!" (I didn't know he'd done both.} He suggested the following:
      1. Build the Pietenpol. 2. Build it out of wood. and 3. Build the long
      fuselage version.
      On someone else's advice, I actually bought GN-1 AND Pietenpol plans. The reason
      being, they are similar enough that the Grega plans (and I have the new CAD
      drawings) can sometimes add clarity to the Pete plans. That may be blasphemy,
      but it works for me. Also, check with a couple of the EAA chapters west of Atlanta---
      Carrolton, or Villa Rica, or ??? I don't remember which one, but one of
      them has 4,5, or 6 guys all building Petes and they should be done about now.
      I know some of them at least were hoping to fly to Brodhead this summer.
      
      --------
      Larry M
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102870#102870
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High pressure water blaster safety | 
      
      
      In a message dated 3/25/2007 2:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      waltdak@verizon.net writes:
      
      Juat wanted to share pics of the almost healed leg of a  co-worker.
      Went thru his calf like a 32 cal.
      Be careful when cleaning those greasy engine  rebuilds.
      
      
      Guess he won't be doing any more panty hose  commercials.
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      
      Oscar,
      You may want to check your tack.  The continental A65 table of 
      specifications lists the Rated RPM as 2300 and the recommended cruising RPM 
      as 2150.
      Gene
      N502R & rebuilding my A65
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
      Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:21 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 41CC cruise performance
      
      
      >
      > Oscar,
      > Read your performance stats,,,doesn't  that had a 65 on it?
      > What prop?
      > thanks
      > Walt Evans
      > NX140DL
      > "No one ever learned anything by talking"
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC cruise performance
      >
      >
      >> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >>
      >> Well, today was a bit windy but it was pretty much right down the runway 
      >> so I went up for a while.  Trimmed out in level cruise with about 1/2 
      >> tank and just me aboard, things settled down and I intentionally set 2350 
      >> RPM on the tach (not sure if it's calibrated though).  Level cruise about 
      >> 68 MPH indicated.  This is Pietenpol country.
      >>
      >> If I firewall the throttle I can increase cruise to 70-75 easily, but the 
      >> airplane feels like it's fighting me a little bit and I have to keep my 
      >> head down behind the windscreen.  If I set things like they really want 
      >> to be, I can hold my head normally and things settle down pretty well.
      >>
      >> I made a high-speed pass again, but with a 15-20 MPH headwind right down 
      >> the runway, nobody was impressed when 41CC came purring down the runway 
      >> at a groundspeed just a little better than the tractor that was mowing 
      >> the areas alongside the runway.
      >>
      >> My landing wasn't anything to write home about, but the wind was at least 
      >> 15, quartering when I touched down, so I was happy.  The tires and spring 
      >> gear take all the embarassment out of bounced landings, I'm glad to say. 
      >> This is a fun airplane!
      >>
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> San Antonio, TX
      >> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      >> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >>
      >> _________________________________________________________________
      >> Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN 
      >> Presents today. 
      >> http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline&ocid=T002MSN03A07001
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: (no subject) | 
      
      Corky,
      Give "Brake Parts Cleaner" a try.  Wal-Mart brand (Super Tech) is some 
      of the best I've used and it's only about a buck twenty-five a can.  
      I've tried some from other auto stores without much luck.  I just used 
      some to clean all the grease and gunk from my engine and while doing so 
      it also took all the paint off.  Repainting has been a breeze.  I've 
      never tried it on fuel varnish but I don't see why it wouldn't work 
      well.  
      Gene   Still looking for a camshaft and a crush ring for my A65.----- 
      Original Message ----- 
        From: Isablcorky@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:00 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
      
      
        Pieters,
        Am involved in a nasty job. Cleaning a fuel tank coated with fuel 
      varnish. Anyone who could offer a suggestion to make this job a bit 
      easier but still thorough I would appreciate hearing from
        Corky( Aeronca Defender  Tank)
      
      
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| Subject:  | Covering materials | 
      
      
      I am trying to get a list of materials I need to start covering the wings.I have
      plenty of fabric as well as Polybrush and Polyspray to at least get me a long
      way.I want to get the tapes and such so I can get a start as soon as I'm ready.I
      find Aircraft Spruce sells 2" wide pinked edge Dacron finishing tapes for
      9.30 for 50 yd rolls or same thing in Polyester Stits stuff for 27.70 am I wrong
      in thinking the generic Dacron tapes will work just as well? I am a tightwad
      but DJ did a beautiful job on the tailfeathers and I don't want to mess up
      the deal saving a hundred or two here on tapes.raymond
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102922#102922
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: (no subject) | 
      
      Corky,  When people started using ethanol it plugged fuel filters in  older 
      cars.  Probably was the varnish. 
          ken in corn growing Iowa
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: (no subject) | 
      
      Ken,
      Or it could have been the carb parts and hose that were destroyed by the 
      alcohol.
      Gene----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Wizzard187@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:33 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: (no subject)
      
      
        Corky,  When people started using ethanol it plugged fuel filters in 
      older cars.  Probably was the varnish. 
            ken in corn growing Iowa
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New prospectuve builder | 
      
      I also bought both plans and the GN1 plans did help clarify some things and
      provided ways to do some things that are not in the Piet plans, like
      seatbelts, telescoping step, cub style gear, etc. The new cad GN1 plans are
      very nice, any idea why Grega stopped selling plans? I would assume legal
      liability issues same as Ratan with the EZs.
      
      Rick
      
      On 3/25/07, larryb <morrisoninga@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Ray - I live in Conyers and also had an interest in both GN-1 and the
      > Pete. I was surprised to see from DJ Vegh's post that the GN-1 is not
      > currently available. But I'll tell you what one fellow told me. I was asking
      > him about the differences, and how I was confused about which way to go, and
      > he finally asked me, "Do you want advice from someone who has built and
      > flown both the Pete and the GN-1?" I said, "Sure!" (I didn't know he'd done
      > both.} He suggested the following: 1. Build the Pietenpol. 2. Build it out
      > of wood. and 3. Build the long fuselage version.
      > On someone else's advice, I actually bought GN-1 AND Pietenpol plans. The
      > reason being, they are similar enough that the Grega plans (and I have the
      > new CAD drawings) can sometimes add clarity to the Pete plans. That may be
      > blasphemy, but it works for me. Also, check with a couple of the EAA
      > chapters west of Atlanta--- Carrolton, or Villa Rica, or ??? I don't
      > remember which one, but one of them has 4,5, or 6 guys all building Petes
      > and they should be done about now. I know some of them at least were hoping
      > to fly to Brodhead this summer.
      >
      > --------
      > Larry M
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102870#102870
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | 41CC cruise performance | 
      
      
      Gene wrote-
      
      >You may want to check your tack.
      
      I have every intention of doing that the next time I find someone with an 
      optical tach.
      
      >The continental A65 table of  specifications lists the Rated RPM as 2300
      >and the recommended cruising RPM as 2150.
      
      I saw that.  But hey- maybe Corky converted it to a 75 and didn't tell me?  
      ;o)  I suppose if I checked the tach and it's OK, then I could change my 
      prop to add some pitch and give me 2300 at WOT, then back off to 2150 for 
      cruise at 75% power?  Or I guess maybe I need to be more gentle on the 
      throttle, and/or move the throttle stop to where WOT only gives me 2300.  It 
      just seems like if I do that, I leave horsepower on the table and what's the 
      sense in that?  The engine seems very happy the way it's being operated.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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      I got the ignition system operational today, and tested the engine to see if 
      I got the mags timed right.  Hasn't ran since November, and she fired up and 
      idled on the first blade.  Sweet music !!  I had wrapped the exhaust pipes with
      
      2" fiberglass (exhaust wrap), to keep the exhaust gas temp higher for better 
      smoke, and better exhaust gas scavenging.  It Worked !!  Much more smoke !!
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      Smoke 'em if ya got 'em !!
      
      
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      I wasn't able to check the e-gap of the slick mag's, because I haven't got 
      the tool to do it...yet.  I don't think I'm getting enough rpm on static run up,
      
      so I've got to get that tool, and pull the mags again to check the e-gap.  
      Has anyone ever checked the e-gap on their slick mags ???
      
      Chuck G.
      NX770CG
      
      
 
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