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1. 01:39 AM - Re: 41CC cruise performance (walt evans)
2. 06:49 AM - Better Smoke (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
3. 08:18 AM - Re: Better Smoke ()
4. 09:30 AM - Re: Better Smoke (HelsperSew@aol.com)
5. 09:54 AM - IFR Model A Smoke System (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
6. 12:17 PM - IFR Model A Smoke System (Oscar Zuniga)
7. 12:27 PM - Re: Covering materials (walt evans)
8. 01:11 PM - buzzing the runway or farm field (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
9. 01:40 PM - Re: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers (Gary Gower)
10. 06:00 PM - Corvair List (Larry Rice)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: Corvair List (Ben Charvet)
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| Subject: | Re: 41CC cruise performance |
Oscar,
I just brought it up cause My 65 with 72-42 Sensinech<sp>, with just me in
the plane will cruise along in the mid 80's @ 2150, and think top 90 at full
bore.
Not that speed it the main thing in a Piet.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
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From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 41CC cruise performance
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Gene wrote-
>
>>You may want to check your tack.
>
> I have every intention of doing that the next time I find someone with an
> optical tach.
>
>>The continental A65 table of specifications lists the Rated RPM as 2300
>>and the recommended cruising RPM as 2150.
>
> I saw that. But hey- maybe Corky converted it to a 75 and didn't tell me?
> ;o) I suppose if I checked the tach and it's OK, then I could change my
> prop to add some pitch and give me 2300 at WOT, then back off to 2150 for
> cruise at 75% power? Or I guess maybe I need to be more gentle on the
> throttle, and/or move the throttle stop to where WOT only gives me 2300.
> It just seems like if I do that, I leave horsepower on the table and
> what's the sense in that? The engine seems very happy the way it's being
> operated.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Way to go, Chuck ! Better smoke, hotter combustion gases. Wooo whoo
! All the better to see you with in the pattern too.
I never thought about the smoke helping others see me when I initially
installed it on the plane but many have commented on how
well it helps them spot me around the airports. I usually give a puff
or two before entering downwind and then on downwind. Sometimes
the trigger gets stuck too when I fly down the runway at 95 mph about 10
feet off the deck. I have to look into that:)
Mike C.
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Trigger gets stuck;right! Good one.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy,
Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
Sent: March 26, 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Better Smoke
Way to go, Chuck ! Better smoke, hotter combustion gases. Wooo whoo
! All the better to see you with in the pattern too.
I never thought about the smoke helping others see me when I initially
installed it on the plane but many have commented on how
well it helps them spot me around the airports. I usually give a puff
or two before entering downwind and then on downwind. Sometimes
the trigger gets stuck too when I fly down the runway at 95 mph about 10
feet off the deck. I have to look into that:)
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Better Smoke |
Guys,
Could somebody please dream up a method of attaching a smoke system on a
model A?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | IFR Model A Smoke System |
Dan,
I would think you'd need at least an artificial horizon in your Ford
Piet to have a smoke system since it would blanket you in smoke.
(not to mention a fresh air respirator or you'll have a good case of WWI
diarrhea from ingesting all that mineral oil:)
I wonder if you could run one exhaust stack down inside the cowling and
out the bottom ? I wonder how high the EGT is on a Ford ?
Hmmmm.....
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HelsperSew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:29 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Better Smoke
Guys,
Could somebody please dream up a method of attaching a smoke
system on a model A?
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | IFR Model A Smoke System |
Isn't that why some of the old airplanes (like the SE.5) had the exhaust
extended back along the fuselage, to get the exhaust past the pilot? You
could do your Model A Piet that way, eh?
I have found that I've had to secure the screws on the brackets that hold
the leading edge of the vertical stabilizer to the top longerons, apparently
due to propeller slipstream buffet. They were working themselves loose so i
epoxied them in. This leads me to believe that if you divert your Model A
exhaust aft like that, you might end up with some smoke oil residue on your
tail feathers as the propwash picks it up and swirls it around the tail.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Covering materials |
I had no tproblem with generic tapes. I even used the economy fabric from
AS&S. 4 years ago it was about $3.10 a running yard. (wide enough for the
Piet wing).
Have you covered the tail parts yet? Assuming this is your first project,
I would start with the small parts first.
Covering is the most intimidating part of the project, but when you're
done,,,the most rewarding.
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: "skellytownflyer" <hanover@centramedia.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Covering materials
> <hanover@centramedia.net>
>
> I am trying to get a list of materials I need to start covering the
> wings.I have plenty of fabric as well as Polybrush and Polyspray to at
> least get me a long way.I want to get the tapes and such so I can get a
> start as soon as I'm ready.I find Aircraft Spruce sells 2" wide pinked
> edge Dacron finishing tapes for 9.30 for 50 yd rolls or same thing in
> Polyester Stits stuff for 27.70 am I wrong in thinking the generic Dacron
> tapes will work just as well? I am a tightwad but DJ did a beautiful job
> on the tailfeathers and I don't want to mess up the deal saving a hundred
> or two here on tapes.raymond
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102922#102922
>
>
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| Subject: | buzzing the runway or farm field |
Oscar,
Buzz jobs in a Piet should always be conducted downwind so you have the
added effect of better groundspeed.
A good buzz job can be accomplished from coming in on a normal approach
and then adding power but I find that
coming in on the downhill (with smoke on) is most effective. A really
fun thing for me is to (search the pattern for
other traffic well) do is to fly downwind the length of the runway and
then do a big old roundhouse wingover after pitching
out to the right on a 45 but doing a left wingover to landing. It is
my version of what Leo Loudenslager used to do
but within the capabilities and bounds of a 65 Piet ! Now if I could
only get my engine to pop and crackle like those
gorgeous P-51's do when going to idle during flare out !
Mike C.
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| Subject: | new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers |
Hello,
Well is better late than never, I have little time to check my mail...
I Follow Marvin closely in Sport Aviation.
He is one of the builders of the only 2 seater Flying Flea in USA. He is a great
craftman, but he is not very young, probably he did not fly when he finished
the Piet because lost his medical...
If the Piet is as well built as the Flying Flea, is a great airplane.
I dont know him in person, or had seen the Piet. Just got a couple of letters and
photos about the Flying Flea by mail.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Mexico.
"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote: Greg-- I've
never heard of this one. Maybe someone on the list will know more. It
sounds like there must be more to the story here.
Mike C.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gcardinal@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: new posting--- Pietenpol for Sale on Barnstormers
Finished 8 years ago and only 2 - 3 test hours flown????????
Mike, do you know any more about the plane?
Greg C.
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From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
PIETENPOL AIRCAMPER $11,200 FOR SALE finished in 1999, Metal fuselage
w/side doors, Poly-fiber covering (red and cream) 95 hp Corvair engine,
Warp drive prop, no starter, 2- 3 Test hours flown off. Good running and
looking plane. Have to see to appreciate. Not in annual. Photos on request.
Marvin Contact Marvin Grout - located New Carlisle, OH USA Telephone:
937 845-0981 Posted February 26, 2007
http://www.barnstormers.com/index.php
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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What Corvair list? I'd like to get on that one.
Larry the microMong guy
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair List |
Go to Corvaircraft.com and a little down from the top of the page is
where you subscribe to the mail list.
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
Larry Rice wrote:
>
> What Corvair list? I'd like to get on that one.
>
> Larry the microMong guy
>
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