Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:41 AM - Wing weight (Tom Bernie)
2. 08:00 AM - Re: New Airfoil news? (Rick Holland)
3. 08:01 AM - Re: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines (Rick Holland)
4. 08:23 AM - type a, b, and c builders (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
5. 08:29 AM - group hug (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
6. 09:26 AM - Re: type a, b, and c builders ()
7. 09:27 AM - Re: Wing weight (Rick Holland)
8. 09:54 AM - Re: type a, b, and c builders (Rick Holland)
9. 10:53 AM - Re: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines ()
10. 11:14 AM - Re: Wing weight (Tom Bernie)
11. 11:18 AM - Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes (DJ Vegh)
12. 01:30 PM - Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes (Eric Williams)
13. 02:30 PM - Re: type a, b, and c builders (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
14. 02:53 PM - Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes (Rick Holland)
15. 03:30 PM - G-AY (DJ Vegh)
16. 03:34 PM - Sport Aviation Mont. Piet (Dick Navratil)
17. 04:15 PM - Re: Wing weight (Tim Willis)
18. 04:16 PM - Re: Wing weight (Tim Willis)
19. 05:25 PM - Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
20. 05:49 PM - Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet (Dick Navratil)
21. 06:14 PM - Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
22. 06:20 PM - Corvair List (Larry Rice)
23. 07:09 PM - Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet (Lynn Knoll)
24. 07:12 PM - Re: Piet List vs Other Lists (Ryan Michalkiewicz)
25. 07:22 PM - BOM (Ryan Michalkiewicz)
26. 07:27 PM - Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes (Roman Bukolt)
27. 11:12 PM - Re: Wing weight (Catdesigns)
28. 11:16 PM - Re: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines (Clif Dawson)
29. 11:31 PM - Re: Wing weight (Clif Dawson)
30. 11:34 PM - Re: Wing weight (Clif Dawson)
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I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all hardware,
cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's Doug Fir
with solid 1" spar. Does anybody have any comparisons Piet or Grega?
Tom Bernie
Gloucester Mass
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| Subject: | Re: New Airfoil news? |
Thanks for the offer Chris but I will have to turn it down for three
reasons:
1) I am not bored yet and probably won't be until I get this thing in the
air.
2) I don't want to deprive the Piet community of the valuable data that can
be provided by flight testing one Piet with the two different wings.
3) I am lazy.
Rick
un-bored and lazy in CO
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Rick
>
> You could always sell me your wings and build some more.
>
> Chris Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:31 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New Airfoil news?
>
> Good point Steve. I have the 612 Riblett airfoil plans and the Bill Rewey
> info on it. If my genuine wings weren't already hanging from the garage
> ceiling I would be building a 612 wing. After I finish this thing and get
> bored maybe I will build a second wing.
>
> Rick
>
> On 3/29/07, Steve Glass <redsglass@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > redsglass@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > So............ do any of you B, C, ..........D types have any news on
> > the
> > "new airfoil".
> >
> >
> > Thanks and
> > Best regards
> > Steve in Maine
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Live Search Maps ' find all the local information you need, right whe
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> --
> Rick Holland
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> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
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"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines |
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Do I sense a group hug coming on.
>
>
> Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
>
>
> This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is posting
> about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
> in my previous post were due to the things that you have conveyed to me
> about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
>
> Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me of the
> pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at Goshen,
> Indiana
> on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet pulled up
> nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out and came
> right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward (to me)
> this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we could
> fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying stuff can
> make between people who hardly know each other or have never even met.
> (thanks to e-mail)
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
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>
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Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | type a, b, and c builders |
I'm a type C builder because that stands for chick magnet. (not me,
the airplane) My airplane continually amazes me in
how it attracts so many chicks in their 70's. They all want to grab
your cheek and pinch it too when they tell you how cute
your little airplane is.
Mike C.
do not archive
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No way.....no group hugs.....that would send a scary message. We'll
have Dr. Phil on the list if you guys go that far and everyone
will get a new copy of his wife's book. (whatever that might be this
month)
I've seen some of you guys up close at Brodhead and hugs are out:))
(I'm sure the feeling is likewise !)
Mike C. happy that it is Friday and warmer in Ohio lately
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| Subject: | Re: type a, b, and c builders |
You really do have cute cheeks, Mike.
Er...cowling cheeks, of course.
---- "Cuy wrote:
>
> I'm a type C builder because that stands for chick magnet. (not me,
> the airplane) My airplane continually amazes me in
> how it attracts so many chicks in their 70's. They all want to grab
> your cheek and pinch it too when they tell you how cute
> your little airplane is.
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Tom
My uncovered Piet left and right wing panels weight 49 lbs each (three piece
wing). This includes all cables and metal fittings, 1/16' ply leading edge.
I used a 3/4" spar, all spruce. The sections are a little longer span than
stock for my higher altitude at 163 1/2" including the wingtip. Don't know
if that is heavy or light for a Piet wing section. That includes varnish
also.
In case anyone is interested my entire uncovered long fuselage airframe from
the stainless covered firewall back, (no engine, mount, cowling), but
including all controls, cables, gear, wheels, 6x8.00 tires, brakes, flight
instruments but no engine instruments, tail wheel, empty fuel tank is 340
lbs.
Rick
On 3/30/07, Tom Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all hardware,
> cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's Doug Fir
> with solid 1" spar. Does anybody have any comparisons Piet or Grega?
>
> Tom Bernie
> Gloucester Mass
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: type a, b, and c builders |
I would bet that when those 70s chicks say cute they are refering to you and
your Piet.
Rick
actually relieved to hear that the group hug at Broadhead is cancelled.
do not archieve
On 3/30/07, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a type C builder because that stands for chick magnet. (not me, the
> airplane) My airplane continually amazes me in
> how it attracts so many chicks in their 70's. They all want to grab
> your cheek and pinch it too when they tell you how cute
> your little airplane is.
>
> Mike C.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | You guys are good ! Changing subject lines |
You guys are nuts!
________________________________
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
<mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is
posting about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have
conveyed to me about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me
of the pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at
Goshen, Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet
pulled up nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out
and came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward
(to me) this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we
could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying
stuff can make between people who hardly know each other or have never
even met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">
<http://forums.matronics.com>
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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Rick,
Thanks for the reply. Guess I'm getting what I deserve for using Fir.
At 25% heavier it really shows up in the uncovered wing.
Thanks,
Tom
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 09:26 -0700, Rick Holland wrote:
> Tom
>
> My uncovered Piet left and right wing panels weight 49 lbs each (three
> piece wing). This includes all cables and metal fittings, 1/16' ply
> leading edge. I used a 3/4" spar, all spruce. The sections are a
> little longer span than stock for my higher altitude at 163 1/2"
> including the wingtip. Don't know if that is heavy or light for a Piet
> wing section. That includes varnish also.
>
> In case anyone is interested my entire uncovered long fuselage
> airframe from the stainless covered firewall back, (no engine, mount,
> cowling), but including all controls, cables, gear, wheels, 6x8.00
> tires, brakes, flight instruments but no engine instruments, tail
> wheel, empty fuel tank is 340 lbs.
>
> Rick
>
> On 3/30/07, Tom Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net> wrote:
> <tsbernie@earthlink.net>
>
> I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all
> hardware,
> cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's
> Doug Fir
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
>
> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes |
anyone see the episode of Office where there was an issue with Victor
the gay guy? ( I think NBC just re-aired it this week) hugs... and
kisses.
These last few discussions are giving me that vibe... damn that was a
hilarious episode.
we MUST find out who are the gay Piet members on this list!!
please Lord do not archive..... holy smokes I'm so far off topic I feel
slightly guilty.
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
-
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
You guys are nuts!
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is
posting about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have conveyed to
me about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me of
the pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at
Goshen, Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet pulled
up nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out and
came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward (to
me) this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we
could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying stuff
can make between people who hardly know each other or have never even
met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h
ttp://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
com
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| Subject: | Office, group hugs, and homophobes |
Yeah, it was on last night - funny as he** (it's Oscar by the way, not
Victor). The Office is one of my favorite shows.
Eric
Do not archive.
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DJ Vegh
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Office, group hugs, and homophobes
anyone see the episode of Office where there was an issue with Victor the
gay guy? ( I think NBC just re-aired it this week) hugs... and kisses.
These last few discussions are giving me that vibe... damn that was a
hilarious episode.
we MUST find out who are the gay Piet members on this list!!
please Lord do not archive..... holy smokes I'm so far off topic I feel
slightly guilty.
DJ Vegh
<http://www.veghdesign.com> veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
<http://www.veghdesign.com>
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
-
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
You guys are nuts!
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] <mailto:michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is posting
about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have conveyed to me
about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me of the
pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at Goshen,
Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet pulled up
nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out and came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward (to me) this
gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying stuff can
make between people who hardly know each other or have never even met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com"> <http://forums.matronics.com>
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: type a, b, and c builders |
I want a plane type C too.....but what cheek are they pinching?
"Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
I'm a type C builder because that stands for chick magnet. (not me, the airplane)
My airplane continually amazes me in
how it attracts so many chicks in their 70's. They all want to grab your
cheek and pinch it too when they tell you how cute
your little airplane is.
Mike C.
do not archive
---------------------------------
Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.
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| Subject: | Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes |
DJ, just look for the pink Piet with the lace doilies around the inspection
hole covers the next time you are at Broadhead.
Gay Piet builders wouldn't come out of the closet, they come out of the
hanger.
Rick
do not archive
On 3/30/07, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
>
> anyone see the episode of Office where there was an issue with Victor the
> gay guy? ( I think NBC just re-aired it this week) hugs... and kisses.
>
> These last few discussions are giving me that vibe... damn that was a
> hilarious episode.
>
> we MUST find out who are the gay Piet members on this list!!
>
> please Lord do not archive..... holy smokes I'm so far off topic I feel
> slightly guilty.
>
> *DJ Vegh*
> veghdesign.com <http://www.veghdesign.com>
> Mesa, AZ
> 602.743.5768
>
> <http://www.veghdesign.com>
>
> "Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
> -
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* harvey.rule@bell.ca
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
>
> You guys are nuts!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick Holland
> *Sent:* March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
>
>
> I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
>
> do not archive
>
> On 3/29/07, *Catdesigns* <catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> Do I sense a group hug coming on.
>
>
> Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
> Sacramento, Ca
> Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
> *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
>
> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
>
>
> This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is posting
> about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
>
> in my previous post were due to the things that you have conveyed to me
> about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
>
>
> Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me of the
> pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at Goshen,
> Indiana
>
> on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet pulled up
> nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out and came
>
> right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward (to me)
> this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we could
>
> fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying stuff can
> make between people who hardly know each other or have never even met.
>
> (thanks to e-mail)
>
>
> Mike C.
>
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>*
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List***
>
> *href="http://forums.matronics.com"> <http://forums.matronics.com>*
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com***
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List*
>
> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> **
>
> * *
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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sorry... could not resist!
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Office, group hugs, and homophobes
DJ, just look for the pink Piet with the lace doilies around the
inspection hole covers the next time you are at Broadhead.
Gay Piet builders wouldn't come out of the closet, they come out of
the hanger.
Rick
do not archive
On 3/30/07, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
anyone see the episode of Office where there was an issue with
Victor the gay guy? ( I think NBC just re-aired it this week) hugs...
and kisses.
These last few discussions are giving me that vibe... damn that was
a hilarious episode.
we MUST find out who are the gay Piet members on this list!!
please Lord do not archive..... holy smokes I'm so far off topic I
feel slightly guilty.
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
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----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
You guys are nuts!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns < catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is
posting about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have
conveyed to me about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me
of the pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at
Goshen, Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet
pulled up nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out
and came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward
(to me) this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we
could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying
stuff can make between people who hardly know each other or have never
even met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
">
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">
http://forums.matronics.com
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Sport Aviation Mont. Piet |
I just finished reading a wonderful article in the new Sport Aviation
about the group of Jr high kids restoring a Piet originally built in
1932. It was originally built in 9 monthe which is amazing by itself.
These kids have been working like crazy on this project.
As long as everybody here has been feeling so huggy here lately, how
about we all send them a gift from all of the Piet builders around the
country. I would recommend we could gather checks made to their local
EAA Chapter 57 and send them together.
Any comments?
Dick N.
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Rick,
I am still working on weight and balance issues, gross weight, etc., so I have
a couple of questions. (FYI, I also have solid 3/4" spruce spars and plan a 1/16"
wing LE.)
When you say your fuze, as described, is 340 lbs., and your right and left wings
weigh 49 lbs. each.-- is your center wing included in the fuze weight?
Do you already know the weight of your engine and mount and cowling?
What do you believe the fabric, dope, paint will weigh?
When the Piet is done, what gross weight, payloads and wing loadings do you expect
to achieve? (I keep running into walls on paper, with my weight, fuel and
no passenger, but 60# of baggage for Brodhead. The first wall is what BP rated
his ships [1100# or so?]. The second is the FAA and light sport rating [1225#?].
And the third "wall" is actual safe flying fully loaded, in either heavy
weather or hard landings.)
According to my thinking, BP's original wing loadings are about 7.3#/sq.ft. With
a little wider center wing and another foot or so of wing span as well, as
you have done(nothing extreme), you can get 1225# GW and still be under 8#/sq.ft.
However, with some of these component weights, even 1225# overall weight
might be problematic.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 30, 2007 12:26 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing weight
>
>Tom
>
>My uncovered Piet left and right wing panels weight 49 lbs each (three piece
>wing). This includes all cables and metal fittings, 1/16' ply leading edge.
>I used a 3/4" spar, all spruce. The sections are a little longer span than
>stock for my higher altitude at 163 1/2" including the wingtip. Don't know
>if that is heavy or light for a Piet wing section. That includes varnish
>also.
>
>In case anyone is interested my entire uncovered long fuselage airframe from
>the stainless covered firewall back, (no engine, mount, cowling), but
>including all controls, cables, gear, wheels, 6x8.00 tires, brakes, flight
>instruments but no engine instruments, tail wheel, empty fuel tank is 340
>lbs.
>
>Rick
>
>On 3/30/07, Tom Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all hardware,
>> cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's Doug Fir
>> with solid 1" spar. Does anybody have any comparisons Piet or Grega?
>>
>> Tom Bernie
>> Gloucester Mass
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>
>"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Rick,
I am still working on weight and balance issues, gross weight, etc., so I have
a couple of questions. (FYI, I also have solid 3/4" spruce spars and plan a 1/16"
ply wing LE.)
When you say your fuze, as described, is 340 lbs., and your right and left wings
weigh 49 lbs. each.-- is your center wing included in the fuze weight?
Do you already know the weight of your engine and mount and cowling?
What do you believe the fabric, dope, paint will weigh?
When the Piet is done, what gross weight, payloads and wing loadings do you expect
to achieve? (I keep running into walls on paper, with my weight, fuel and
no passenger, but 60# of baggage for Brodhead. The first wall is what BP rated
his ships [1100# or so?]. The second is the FAA and light sport rating [1225#?].
And the third "wall" is actual safe flying fully loaded, in either heavy
weather or hard landings.)
According to my thinking, BP's original wing loadings are about 7.3#/sq.ft. With
a little wider center wing and another foot or so of wing span as well, as
you have done(nothing extreme), you can get 1225# GW and still be under 8#/sq.ft.
However, with some of these component weights, even 1225# overall weight
might be problematic.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>Sent: Mar 30, 2007 12:26 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing weight
>
>Tom
>
>My uncovered Piet left and right wing panels weight 49 lbs each (three piece
>wing). This includes all cables and metal fittings, 1/16' ply leading edge.
>I used a 3/4" spar, all spruce. The sections are a little longer span than
>stock for my higher altitude at 163 1/2" including the wingtip. Don't know
>if that is heavy or light for a Piet wing section. That includes varnish
>also.
>
>In case anyone is interested my entire uncovered long fuselage airframe from
>the stainless covered firewall back, (no engine, mount, cowling), but
>including all controls, cables, gear, wheels, 6x8.00 tires, brakes, flight
>instruments but no engine instruments, tail wheel, empty fuel tank is 340
>lbs.
>
>Rick
>
>On 3/30/07, Tom Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all hardware,
>> cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's Doug Fir
>> with solid 1" spar. Does anybody have any comparisons Piet or Grega?
>>
>> Tom Bernie
>> Gloucester Mass
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>
>"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet |
Nice idea. That's a good showing of support all the way from CA to CT.
Since you brought it up how bout we send them to you and you forward the
whole stack together? (more impactful) If that goes over well with the
list, give a deadline.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
I just finished reading a wonderful article in the new Sport Aviation
about the group of Jr high kids restoring a Piet originally built in
1932. It was originally built in 9 monthe which is amazing by itself.
These kids have been working like crazy on this project.
As long as everybody here has been feeling so huggy here lately, how
about we all send them a gift from all of the Piet builders around the
country. I would recommend we could gather checks made to their local
EAA Chapter 57 and send them together.
Any comments?
Dick N.
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet |
Glenn
I would certainly be willing to do that. Also, I will be hitting on my
local chapter separately, to look at a scholarship grant that has gone
unused this school year. I would propose if this works out to direct
their teacher / supervisor to use money at his discression for the
benefit of his volunteers in appreciation.
For anyone interested
EAA Chapt 57
Dick Navratil
1415 Skiles Ln.
Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
----- Original Message -----
From: GlennThomas@flyingwood.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
Nice idea. That's a good showing of support all the way from CA to
CT. Since you brought it up how bout we send them to you and you
forward the whole stack together? (more impactful) If that goes over
well with the list, give a deadline.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
I just finished reading a wonderful article in the new Sport
Aviation about the group of Jr high kids restoring a Piet originally
built in 1932. It was originally built in 9 monthe which is amazing by
itself.
These kids have been working like crazy on this project.
As long as everybody here has been feeling so huggy here lately, how
about we all send them a gift from all of the Piet builders around the
country. I would recommend we could gather checks made to their local
EAA Chapter 57 and send them together.
Any comments?
Dick N.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet |
In a message dated 3/30/2007 6:35:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
horzpool@goldengate.net writes:
I would recommend we could gather checks made to their local EAA Chapter 57
and send them together.
Any comments?
Dick N.
Great article. Great idea. Let me know where to send a check.
Ron
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Thanks, guys!
Larry the micro mong guy
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet |
Hi Dick,
Sounds like a great project. My check is in the mail. Keep us posted.
Lynn Knoll
Piet/Vair in the works
Wichita
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
Glenn
I would certainly be willing to do that. Also, I will be hitting on
my local chapter separately, to look at a scholarship grant that has
gone unused this school year. I would propose if this works out to
direct their teacher / supervisor to use money at his discression for
the benefit of his volunteers in appreciation.
For anyone interested
EAA Chapt 57
Dick Navratil
1415 Skiles Ln.
Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
----- Original Message -----
From: GlennThomas@flyingwood.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
Nice idea. That's a good showing of support all the way from CA to
CT. Since you brought it up how bout we send them to you and you
forward the whole stack together? (more impactful) If that goes over
well with the list, give a deadline.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sport Aviation Mont. Piet
I just finished reading a wonderful article in the new Sport
Aviation about the group of Jr high kids restoring a Piet originally
built in 1932. It was originally built in 9 monthe which is amazing by
itself.
These kids have been working like crazy on this project.
As long as everybody here has been feeling so huggy here lately,
how about we all send them a gift from all of the Piet builders around
the country. I would recommend we could gather checks made to their
local EAA Chapter 57 and send them together.
Any comments?
Dick N.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Piet List vs Other Lists |
Is Jimmy Dean on this list!?
"Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> wrote: Corky,
I would like to do a project like Jimmy Dean, down in Sanford, NC is doing.
Jimmy (who owns a beautiful Ford Model A powered Pietenpol, that sadly needs a
new fabric job) is building an essentially new Waco Ten. He bought a junk Waco
and is using the old parts to make patterns for all new components. He has
finished the fuselage framework, all welded up of brand new 4130 tubing, much
better than the mild steel of the original. He is using the original ribs to
make a jig to build all new ribs. By the time he is finished about the only
original components will be the centerline and the nameplate and serial number,
but that is enough in the FAAs eyes to make it a certificated airplane.
Id like to do something similar, as my retirement project. Then take it and
go barnstorming. You cant go barnstorming in a Pietenpol and charge for rides,
since it is Experimental.
Jack Phillips
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet List vs Other Lists
In a message dated 3/29/2007 11:04:47 AM Central Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com
writes:
or rebuild an antique like a Travellaire or a Waco
Jack,
This is a thought provoking statement. IF a builder so decided he wanted to
undertake such a project, to actually build one of the above, where would he
or she obtain plans, drawings, spec or whatever. I've often wondered how long
it would take to build the ribs for a Waco Taperwing. Mindbogling. It would be
a worthy retirement project, if one lived long enough
Back in '52 I observed a lonely UPF-7 parked on the far end of Ft Smith airport.
I inquired and the FBO said I could buy it for $ 186. Some jerk came in,
ground looped, damaged the lower left wing tip. Repairs were $186. The guy had
never come back.
Just thinking
Corky
---------------------------------
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Does any one have an udated bill of materials? I would like to begin ordering wood.
Thank you;
Ryan Michalkiewicz
---------------------------------
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always stay connected to friends.
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| Subject: | Re: Office, group hugs, and homophobes |
that's "Coming Out" with "flying colors"{!
Nice airbrush job.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Office, group hugs, and homophobes
DJ, just look for the pink Piet with the lace doilies around the
inspection hole covers the next time you are at Broadhead.
Gay Piet builders wouldn't come out of the closet, they come out of
the hanger.
Rick
do not archive
On 3/30/07, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
anyone see the episode of Office where there was an issue with
Victor the gay guy? ( I think NBC just re-aired it this week) hugs...
and kisses.
These last few discussions are giving me that vibe... damn that was
a hilarious episode.
we MUST find out who are the gay Piet members on this list!!
please Lord do not archive..... holy smokes I'm so far off topic I
feel slightly guilty.
DJ Vegh
veghdesign.com
Mesa, AZ
602.743.5768
"Where there's a will there's a Vegh"
-
----- Original Message -----
From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
You guys are nuts!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns < catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is
posting about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have
conveyed to me about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me
of the pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at
Goshen, Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet
pulled up nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out
and came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward
(to me) this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we
could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying
stuff can make between people who hardly know each other or have never
even met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
">
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">
http://forums.matronics.com
--
Rick Holland
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Rick
If you look at this picture of the data plate on the Last Original,
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/BHP%20Built/40_data_plate.jpg , you can see
that Mr. Pietenpol lists an empty weight of 641 and gross weight of 1,282
pounds. I believe this plane has the 3/4-inch spars like yours does. I take
this to mean you can list 1,225 pounds as your gross weight and still have a
safe plane.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing weight
> <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>
> Rick,
>
> I am still working on weight and balance issues, gross weight, etc., so I
> have a couple of questions. (FYI, I also have solid 3/4" spruce spars and
> plan a 1/16" ply wing LE.)
>
> When you say your fuze, as described, is 340 lbs., and your right and left
> wings weigh 49 lbs. each.-- is your center wing included in the fuze
> weight?
>
> Do you already know the weight of your engine and mount and cowling?
>
> What do you believe the fabric, dope, paint will weigh?
>
> When the Piet is done, what gross weight, payloads and wing loadings do
> you expect to achieve? (I keep running into walls on paper, with my
> weight, fuel and no passenger, but 60# of baggage for Brodhead. The first
> wall is what BP rated his ships [1100# or so?]. The second is the FAA and
> light sport rating [1225#?]. And the third "wall" is actual safe flying
> fully loaded, in either heavy weather or hard landings.)
>
> According to my thinking, BP's original wing loadings are about
> 7.3#/sq.ft. With a little wider center wing and another foot or so of
> wing span as well, as you have done(nothing extreme), you can get 1225# GW
> and still be under 8#/sq.ft. However, with some of these component
> weights, even 1225# overall weight might be problematic.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>>Sent: Mar 30, 2007 12:26 PM
>>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wing weight
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>My uncovered Piet left and right wing panels weight 49 lbs each (three
>>piece
>>wing). This includes all cables and metal fittings, 1/16' ply leading
>>edge.
>>I used a 3/4" spar, all spruce. The sections are a little longer span than
>>stock for my higher altitude at 163 1/2" including the wingtip. Don't know
>>if that is heavy or light for a Piet wing section. That includes varnish
>>also.
>>
>>In case anyone is interested my entire uncovered long fuselage airframe
>>from
>>the stainless covered firewall back, (no engine, mount, cowling), but
>>including all controls, cables, gear, wheels, 6x8.00 tires, brakes, flight
>>instruments but no engine instruments, tail wheel, empty fuel tank is 340
>>lbs.
>>
>>Rick
>>
>>On 3/30/07, Tom Bernie <tsbernie@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> <tsbernie@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> I just weighed a GN1 wing panel ready to cover, varnished, all hardware,
>>> cables and aluminum leading edge -- 67lbs -- YIKES! Yes it's Doug Fir
>>> with solid 1" spar. Does anybody have any comparisons Piet or Grega?
>>>
>>> Tom Bernie
>>> Gloucester Mass
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Rick Holland
>>
>>"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
>
>
>
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It's alright Harv, That warm feeling is just the Mexican
take out from dinner.
A little later we can maybe talk them each into lighting
one of them little floating candles and putting it in the
toilet bowl.
Guarantied to take the "fuzzy" out of "Warm and fuzzy" !
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Clif
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From: harvey.rule@bell.ca
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:52 AM
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You guys are nuts!
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: March 30, 2007 11:01 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject
lines
I think it just happened. I feel so warn inside
do not archive
On 3/29/07, Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net > wrote:
Do I sense a group hug coming on.
Chris Feel'n the Love Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
do not archive
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: You guys are good ! Changing subject lines
This is a good group----look how easy you can tell what a guy is
posting about now. Good post, Jack Phillips and part of my thoughts
in my previous post were due to the things that you have conveyed to
me about the other list you are on---the RV 10 list.
Your post about the King Air pilot commenting to you reminded me of
the pilots for the owner of the Indianapolis Colts. I landed at
Goshen, Indiana
on my way back from Brodhead one year and this beautiful jet pulled
up nearby to the fuel pumps where I was at. The pilots came out and
came
right over to my plane about the same time I was walking toward (to
me) this gorgeous luxury jet to admire it. We both were wishing we
could
fly each other's airplanes ! What a brotherhood this flying stuff
can make between people who hardly know each other or have never even
met.
(thanks to e-mail)
Mike C.
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Did you rout the spars as per the plans?
Clif
>
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Guess I'm getting what I deserve for using Fir.
> At 25% heavier it really shows up in the uncovered wing.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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If you increase the span don't forget to change the outer strut position
by the same percentage.
Clif
> <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
>
> Rick,
>
>
> According to my thinking, BP's original wing loadings are about
> 7.3#/sq.ft. With a little wider center wing and another foot or so of
> wing span as well, as you have done(nothing extreme), you can get 1225# GW
> and still be under 8#/sq.ft. However, with some of these component
> weights, even 1225# overall weight might be problematic.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Tim in central TX
>
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