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     1. 12:25 AM - Re: Crosswinds & aileron (Clif Dawson)
     2. 12:46 AM - Re: Re: Squishing the ends (Clif Dawson)
     3. 04:30 AM - Re: Squishing the ends (Phillips, Jack)
     4. 04:43 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     5. 04:45 AM - Re: Squishing the ends (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     6. 04:48 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Phillips, Jack)
     7. 04:54 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     8. 05:22 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Phillips, Jack)
     9. 05:40 AM - Re: Wing weight (GeneWeber)
    10. 05:43 AM - Squishing the Ends (TBYH@aol.com)
    11. 05:50 AM - securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
    12. 06:12 AM - Re: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Tim Willis)
    13. 06:21 AM - Re: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Phillips, Jack)
    14. 07:12 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Rick Holland)
    15. 07:26 AM - Alternative fabric paint (HelsperSew@aol.com)
    16. 07:48 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Rick Holland)
    17. 08:19 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Robert Gow)
    18. 08:23 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Dick Navratil)
    19. 09:03 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Bill Church)
    20. 09:17 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Scott Knowlton)
    21. 09:20 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint ()
    22. 10:26 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Bill Church)
    23. 10:42 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Robert Gow)
    24. 10:44 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Scott Knowlton)
    25. 12:46 PM - Re: New Prop (Don Emch)
    26. 01:11 PM - Re: New question from and old brain (Don Emch)
    27. 02:55 PM - Sherwin Willams paint (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
    28. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: New Prop (Gene & Tammy)
    29. 08:44 PM - Re: Sherwin Willams paint (Dick Navratil)
    30. 11:53 PM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Crosswinds & aileron | 
      
      
      Alright! Lets carry this to it's obvious conclusion.
      A control wheel! Or, using that KISS principle,
      a bicycle handle cross stick for the maximum
      k-nee k-leerence. Have to be pretty small though.
      Kinda like those teeny weeny wheels some young
      guys put in their "hot rods". Hahahhahaha!
      
      Clif
      
      "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, 
      would it?" --Albert Einstein
      
      
      > <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      >
      > Hey, I like the one about notching your leg enough to allow for more stick 
      > travel!  Actually, a nice Rube Goldberg setup would be to have a handgrip 
      > lever on the stick that would engage a reduction gear, say 2:1, to double 
      > the cable travel per unit of stick travel when needed.  Or instead of 
      > standard aileron cable pulleys, you could use some cam pulleys like the 
      > ones used on compound bows to ratchet up the cable action as you near the 
      > end of the pulley rotation.  Try getting those puppies past your DAR or 
      > Tech Counselor-!
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Squishing the ends | 
      
      
      Once you have one end flattened clamp a length of straight
      wood to it. Line that up with the vise jaws by eye.
      
      I didn't just squeeze away with the vise itself. I rounded off
      one edge on each of two lengths of hard Ash. Stuck them in
      the vise and squeezed the tube between them. That way you
      get an easy transition from round to flat.
      
      This won't get you to perfect flatness. At this point I carefully
      hammered the rest of the way over the horn of my anvil.
      
      Clif
      
      
      >
      > I haven't had to do this yet but could you devise some kind of clamp that 
      > makes it easy to square things up with respect to a side.  If you used 
      > blocks to raise the clamp up to the level of the vise, the clamp might 
      > help keep your reference angle the same on both ends.  I'm sure there are 
      > other ways to do this but these problems with custom solutions are the 
      > things I love about this project.  Should be easy enough to make too.
      >
      > --------
      > Glenn Thomas
      > N?????
      > http://www.flyingwood.com
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Squishing the ends | 
      
      
      I had the same problem, Chris.  The only way I found was trial and error
      (mostly error).  I think I made 3 of each by the time I was through.  As
      I recall, the second bend always tended to be about 10 degrees off where
      I thought it would be.
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      Catdesigns
      Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:38 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends
      
      <catdesigns@comcast.net>
      
      Anyone have a good method to ensure the squished ends of the spreader
      bars 
      (wood gear), rudder bar, and tube connecting the sticks are in the same 
      plane (or parallel or however you would describe it).  I can squish them
      
      just fine.  I just cant seem to get both end in the same plane.  Any 
      suggestions?
      
      Chris Tracy
      Sacramento, Ca
      Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New question from and old brain | 
      
      Tom,
      Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal  
      stab.  I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons.  No way  those will
      
      pull out.  I kid around about worshiping at the alter  of BHP, but I do 
      compromise on certain things.  One of these is the Ford A  engine. I am going to
      
      have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb  (recommended by Douwe from
      
      this list).  I also had the Ford A modernized  with the hardened valve seats, 
      modern valves, pistons, counterweighted  crank ,and modern bearings.  I want 
      a good reliable powerplant.  My  motivation is thinking ahead about giving my 
      grandchildren rides.  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Squishing the ends | 
      
      Chris,
      
      On some occasions I reheated some parts and twisted them back into the same  
      plane.  Probably not the best thing to do.  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | New question from and old brain | 
      
      I did the same thing to mount the stabilizer, Dan.  Used LONG AN3 bolts
      going through the top longerons and into nutplates.  Besides, have you
      tried to find a #7 screw lately?
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      HelsperSew@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:43 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
      
      
      Tom,
      
      Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the
      horizontal stab.  I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons.
      No way those will pull out.  I kid around about worshiping at the alter
      of BHP, but I do compromise on certain things.  One of these is the Ford
      A engine. I am going to have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber
      carb (recommended by Douwe from this list).  I also had the Ford A
      modernized with the hardened valve seats, modern valves, pistons,
      counterweighted crank ,and modern bearings.  I want a good reliable
      powerplant.  My motivation is thinking ahead about giving my
      grandchildren rides. 
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New question from and old brain | 
      
      Jack,
      
      I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going to  
      use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself  "I  
      wonder why Jack is using nut plates?"  DUH!!  Then I asked myself  "How are you
      
      going to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to  dummy? !!"  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | New question from and old brain | 
      
      Well, you could use regular nuts but you would need to have inspection
      ports on the side of the fuselage to be able to access the nuts for
      stabilizer installation.
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      HelsperSew@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:55 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
      
      
      Jack,
      
      
      I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going
      to use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself
      "I wonder why Jack is using nut plates?"  DUH!!  Then I asked myself
      "How are you going to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to
      dummy? !!" 
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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      Hi Chuck,
      
      I've a lot to learn, but 110lbs seems like a very impressive number. Started thinking
      of numerous questions to ask, but did a google search of NX770CG first.
      Thanks for putting together an excellent website. The page showing wing construction
      was extremely informative. That did more to counter my "aluminum" musings
      than anything else. 
      
      You have a beautiful plane,
      
      Gene
      
      BTW: Had some nice days in PA this week and had my motorcycle out for the first
      time this year. As I was riding I was thinking "OK, would an AirCamper be like
      the bike, and a Sonex, or 601 more like my car?" When not actually travelling
      anywhere, and the weather is nice, the car sits in the garage.  :D
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105088#105088
      
      
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| Subject:  | Squishing the Ends | 
      
      My solution was easy -- I purchased those components from Ken Perkins! : )
      
      Sorry to be a wise-guy, but I'm on vacation from work today!
      
      Fred B.
      La Crosse, WI 
      
      
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| Subject:  | securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer | 
      
      
      Group, 
      
      Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer.  
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer | 
      
      
      What keeps this bolt from backing out from continued vibration, over time, from
      either a Tinneman nut or a "Home Depot speednut"?  
      
      Do you put a lock or star washer on the bolt (at the top of the HStab), use Loc-tite
      on its threads, or what?
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      >Sent: Apr 5, 2007 6:49 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer
      >
      > 
      >Group, 
      > 
      >Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer.  
      > 
      >Mike C.
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer | 
      
      
      I used a locking nutplate attached to the bottom of the top longeron.
      It's pretty easy to see if the bolts are getting loose (mine have never
      loosened in nearly 100 hours of flight), since it is right on top of the
      stabilizer and available for easy inspection during the preflight.
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
      Willis
      Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer
      
      <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      
      What keeps this bolt from backing out from continued vibration, over
      time, from either a Tinneman nut or a "Home Depot speednut"?  
      
      Do you put a lock or star washer on the bolt (at the top of the HStab),
      use Loc-tite on its threads, or what?
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
      >Sent: Apr 5, 2007 6:49 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer
      >
      > 
      >Group, 
      > 
      >Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer.  
      > 
      >Mike C.
      > 
      > 
      
      
      _________________________________________________
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New question from and old brain | 
      
      And I also did the same as Jack on the stab.
      
      Rick
      
      On 4/5/07, Phillips, Jack <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> wrote:
      >
      >  I did the same thing to mount the stabilizer, Dan.  Used LONG AN3 bolts
      > going through the top longerons and into nutplates.  Besides, have you tried
      > to find a #7 screw lately?
      >
      >
      > Jack Phillips
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
      > HelsperSew@aol.com
      > *Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:43 AM
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain
      >
      >
      > Tom,
      >
      > Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal
      > stab.  I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons.  No way those
      > will pull out.  I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do
      > compromise on certain things.  One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going
      > to have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by
      > Douwe from this list).  I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened
      > valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern
      > bearings.  I want a good reliable powerplant.  My motivation is thinking
      > ahead about giving my grandchildren rides.
      >
      >
      > Dan Helsper
      > Poplar Grove, IL.
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Hi All,
      
      I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the  
      testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes.   There
      
      was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter about  
      this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and then  
      water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front of  me).
      
      Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or  currently flying
      
      airplanes?  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of discussion
      (and experience) on the use of it on this and other homebuilder newsgroups,
      and have seen it on several Piets (and other aircraft) at Broadhead. Thats
      what I am going to use, no polybrush or polyspray or poly$$$$, just polytac
      it and latex it. Yes I know, its not going to look perfect 25 years from
      now, although if its hangered it's whole life it may not look that bad.
      
      Rick
      
      On 4/5/07, HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
      >
      >  Hi All,
      >
      > I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the
      > testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes.
      > There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter
      > about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and
      > then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front
      > of me).  Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or
      > currently flying airplanes?
      > Dan Helsper
      > Poplar Grove, IL.
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------
      > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.
      >
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      I guess I'm just old fashioned. I plan to roll on coloured butyrate dope
      from the local aircraft supplier.  First clear coats brushed in, roll silver
      then roll colour.  Of course that's a long way away.
      
      Bob
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Holland
        Sent: April 5, 2007 10:48 AM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      
      
        Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of
      discussion (and experience) on the use of it on this and other homebuilder
      newsgroups, and have seen it on several Piets (and other aircraft) at
      Broadhead. Thats what I am going to use, no polybrush or polyspray or
      poly$$$$, just polytac it and latex it. Yes I know, its not going to look
      perfect 25 years from now, although if its hangered it's whole life it may
      not look that bad.
      
        Rick
      
      
        On 4/5/07, HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
          Hi All,
      
          I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the
      testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes.
      There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter
      about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and
      then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front
      of me).  Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or
      currently flying airplanes?
      
          Dan Helsper
          Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          See what's free at AOL.com.
      
      
        --
        Rick Holland
      
        "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Heres a pic of my plane.  Painted with Sherwin Williams house paint.  
      Wing is Corn Yellow, satin finish and fuse is Gloss Blue.  Still looks 
      good after 4 years.  I applied a coat of Poly Brush before painting.  
      Dick N
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: HelsperSew@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:26 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      
      
        Hi All,
      
        I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing 
      the testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft 
      finishes.  There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead 
      Piet newsletter about this subject, where the writer suggested the use 
      of KILZ primer and then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't 
      have the article in front of me).  Does anyone have some current 
      feedback on their test panels or currently flying airplanes? 
      
        Dan Helsper
        Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Dan,
      Thanks for the reminder.
      I made up a couple of test panels almost a year ago, coated only with
      latex primer and paint, and then promptly forgot to put one outside for
      weather testing. They're both sitting in my house. I've got to make up
      some kind of holder and put that thing outside. Here's a link to my test
      panels:
      
      http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=12
      8
      7&PlaneID=510&FName=Bill&LName=Church&PlaneName=Air%20Camper
      
      
      Bill C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      
      
      Hey Bill:  If you want to accelerate your weather testing I can bring your 
      panel with me on my next layover to St John's Newfoundland and leave it 
      stuck up in a tree along the coastline.  If it survives a year there it'll 
      be good for about ten years anywhere else!
      
      Scott Knowlton
      
      >From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
      >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:03:26 -0400
      >
      >Dan,
      >Thanks for the reminder.
      >I made up a couple of test panels almost a year ago, coated only with
      >latex primer and paint, and then promptly forgot to put one outside for
      >weather testing. They're both sitting in my house. I've got to make up
      >some kind of holder and put that thing outside. Here's a link to my test
      >panels:
      >
      >http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=128
      >7&PlaneID=510&FName=Bill&LName=Church&PlaneName=Air%20Camper
      >
      >
      >Bill C.
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      The ultralight world is using this paint quite frequently on their
      aircraft builds and it works fine either rolled on or sprayed and they
      have been leaving their aircraft outside for years with no adverse
      effect.
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of
      discussion (and experience) on the use of it on this and other
      homebuilder newsgroups, and have seen it on several Piets (and other
      aircraft) at Broadhead. Thats what I am going to use, no polybrush or
      polyspray or poly$$$$, just polytac it and latex it. Yes I know, its not
      going to look perfect 25 years from now, although if its hangered it's
      whole life it may not look that bad. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Scott,
      If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award
      you some bonus points.
      I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest
      that that place definitely gets some extreme weather.
      
      Bill
      
      Do not archive 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paintThere are trees in St John's`s?
      Hard to see when it's foggy blowing and snowing all at the same time.
      
      Bob
      
      Do not archive
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
        Sent: April 5, 2007 1:26 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      
      
        Scott,
        If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award you
      some bonus points.
        I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest
      that that place definitely gets some extreme weather.
      
        Bill
      
        Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      
      Bill,
      
      True enough.  My last approach and landing in Torbay had the wind at 35 
      gusting 55 Kts quartering to any runway in heavy rain.  Now that would be 
      just as much a test of the latex paint as it was of my aircraft handling 
      abilities...  Fortunately in an Embraer and not a Pietenpol.
      
      Scott
      
      
      >From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
      >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:25:36 -0400
      >
      >Scott,
      >If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award
      >you some bonus points.
      >I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest
      >that that place definitely gets some extreme weather.
      >
      >Bill
      >
      >Do not archive
      >
      
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      Gene,
      I think you'll really like how the prop does for you.  Ed Sterba is a class act
      guy!  Chris, I'm gonna try to escape out to the strip this evening to take some
      pictures.  We just had our fourth baby on Monday, so things are a little hectic
      around here!  Really enjoying it though!!!  Mom and baby are healthy, so
      everything is good!
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105192#105192
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New question from and old brain | 
      
      
      I like to call myself a strong Pietenpol follower too.  But I know of a very popular
      Piet with screws holding the stabilizer down and they worked loose.  I think
      the holes eventually stripped in the wood.  The owner fixed the problem,
      and I don't think it's an issue anymore.  I used through bolts on the stabilizer
      "spar" holes and placed an ispection hole and cover on the bottom side of the
      fuselage so I can reach up in there and hold the nut with my fingers.  You
      have to lay on the ground to see the cover.  Not much of a change, but lots more
      piece of mind!!
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105200#105200
      
      
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| Subject:  | Sherwin Willams paint | 
      
      
      Hello Dick N. What special metal preparation are needed to put S.W.
      paint on metal parts, cowl, gear etc. Leon S. in snowy ks. Going to have
      a white Easter.
      
      
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      Don,
      Congrats on the addition of your new crew member.
      Gene
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Don Emch" <EmchAir@aol.com>
      Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:46 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Prop
      
      
      >
      > Gene,
      > I think you'll really like how the prop does for you.  Ed Sterba is a 
      > class act guy!  Chris, I'm gonna try to escape out to the strip this 
      > evening to take some pictures.  We just had our fourth baby on Monday, so 
      > things are a little hectic around here!  Really enjoying it though!!!  Mom 
      > and baby are healthy, so everything is good!
      >
      > Don Emch
      > NX899DE
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105192#105192
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sherwin Willams paint | 
      
      
      Leon
      My engine cowling is done in Imron epoxy.  The bridge decks are done in 
      house paint.  I first primed with Zinc Chromate primer, then 2 coats of 
      paint.
      Dick
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Leon Stefan" <lshutks@webtv.net>
      Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:55 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sherwin Willams paint
      
      
      >
      > Hello Dick N. What special metal preparation are needed to put S.W.
      > paint on metal parts, cowl, gear etc. Leon S. in snowy ks. Going to have
      > a white Easter.
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paintA little update from our RAA 
      forum, Canucks.
      McMaster Carr is no longer selling outside the 
      US except certain companies. Apparently they
      have had their wrists slapped for selling to
      "inappropriate individuals" in "Inappropriate 
      countries". ????? Their answer to the problem?
      Don't sell to anybody.
      
      Apparently these guys are good though;
      
      http://www.rpmmech.com
      
      Clif
      
      Good thing my daughter and significant other have
      seen the light and are leaving Halifax for the REALLY
      BIG TREE country here on the wetcoast. :-)
      Now if I could just get the other one back from
      Toronto. :-) :-)
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Robert Gow 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:41 AM
        Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint
      
      
        There are trees in St John's`s?  Hard to see when it's foggy blowing 
      and snowing all at the same time.
      
        Bob
      
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