---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/05/07: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:25 AM - Re: Crosswinds & aileron (Clif Dawson) 2. 12:46 AM - Re: Re: Squishing the ends (Clif Dawson) 3. 04:30 AM - Re: Squishing the ends (Phillips, Jack) 4. 04:43 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (HelsperSew@aol.com) 5. 04:45 AM - Re: Squishing the ends (HelsperSew@aol.com) 6. 04:48 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Phillips, Jack) 7. 04:54 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (HelsperSew@aol.com) 8. 05:22 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Phillips, Jack) 9. 05:40 AM - Re: Wing weight (GeneWeber) 10. 05:43 AM - Squishing the Ends (TBYH@aol.com) 11. 05:50 AM - securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 12. 06:12 AM - Re: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Tim Willis) 13. 06:21 AM - Re: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer (Phillips, Jack) 14. 07:12 AM - Re: New question from and old brain (Rick Holland) 15. 07:26 AM - Alternative fabric paint (HelsperSew@aol.com) 16. 07:48 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Rick Holland) 17. 08:19 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Robert Gow) 18. 08:23 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Dick Navratil) 19. 09:03 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Bill Church) 20. 09:17 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Scott Knowlton) 21. 09:20 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint () 22. 10:26 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Bill Church) 23. 10:42 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Robert Gow) 24. 10:44 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Scott Knowlton) 25. 12:46 PM - Re: New Prop (Don Emch) 26. 01:11 PM - Re: New question from and old brain (Don Emch) 27. 02:55 PM - Sherwin Willams paint (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)) 28. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: New Prop (Gene & Tammy) 29. 08:44 PM - Re: Sherwin Willams paint (Dick Navratil) 30. 11:53 PM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:22 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Crosswinds & aileron Alright! Lets carry this to it's obvious conclusion. A control wheel! Or, using that KISS principle, a bicycle handle cross stick for the maximum k-nee k-leerence. Have to be pretty small though. Kinda like those teeny weeny wheels some young guys put in their "hot rods". Hahahhahaha! Clif "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" --Albert Einstein > > > Hey, I like the one about notching your leg enough to allow for more stick > travel! Actually, a nice Rube Goldberg setup would be to have a handgrip > lever on the stick that would engage a reduction gear, say 2:1, to double > the cable travel per unit of stick travel when needed. Or instead of > standard aileron cable pulleys, you could use some cam pulleys like the > ones used on compound bows to ratchet up the cable action as you near the > end of the pulley rotation. Try getting those puppies past your DAR or > Tech Counselor-! > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:29 AM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Squishing the ends Once you have one end flattened clamp a length of straight wood to it. Line that up with the vise jaws by eye. I didn't just squeeze away with the vise itself. I rounded off one edge on each of two lengths of hard Ash. Stuck them in the vise and squeezed the tube between them. That way you get an easy transition from round to flat. This won't get you to perfect flatness. At this point I carefully hammered the rest of the way over the horn of my anvil. Clif > > I haven't had to do this yet but could you devise some kind of clamp that > makes it easy to square things up with respect to a side. If you used > blocks to raise the clamp up to the level of the vise, the clamp might > help keep your reference angle the same on both ends. I'm sure there are > other ways to do this but these problems with custom solutions are the > things I love about this project. Should be easy enough to make too. > > -------- > Glenn Thomas > N????? > http://www.flyingwood.com > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends From: "Phillips, Jack" I had the same problem, Chris. The only way I found was trial and error (mostly error). I think I made 3 of each by the time I was through. As I recall, the second bend always tended to be about 10 degrees off where I thought it would be. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catdesigns Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends Anyone have a good method to ensure the squished ends of the spreader bars (wood gear), rudder bar, and tube connecting the sticks are in the same plane (or parallel or however you would describe it). I can squish them just fine. I just cant seem to get both end in the same plane. Any suggestions? Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com _________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:18 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain Tom, Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal stab. I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons. No way those will pull out. I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do compromise on certain things. One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going to have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by Douwe from this list). I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern bearings. I want a good reliable powerplant. My motivation is thinking ahead about giving my grandchildren rides. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:03 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the ends Chris, On some occasions I reheated some parts and twisted them back into the same plane. Probably not the best thing to do. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:47 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain From: "Phillips, Jack" I did the same thing to mount the stabilizer, Dan. Used LONG AN3 bolts going through the top longerons and into nutplates. Besides, have you tried to find a #7 screw lately? Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain Tom, Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal stab. I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons. No way those will pull out. I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do compromise on certain things. One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going to have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by Douwe from this list). I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern bearings. I want a good reliable powerplant. My motivation is thinking ahead about giving my grandchildren rides. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. _____ See what's free at AOL.com . _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:59 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain Jack, I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going to use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself "I wonder why Jack is using nut plates?" DUH!! Then I asked myself "How are you going to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to dummy? !!" Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:31 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain From: "Phillips, Jack" Well, you could use regular nuts but you would need to have inspection ports on the side of the fuselage to be able to access the nuts for stabilizer installation. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain Jack, I am so glad you responded to my post, because up till now I was going to use regular nuts on those horizontal stab bolts, until I asked myself "I wonder why Jack is using nut plates?" DUH!! Then I asked myself "How are you going to get TO the nuts or remove the stab if you have to dummy? !!" Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. _____ See what's free at AOL.com . _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wing weight From: "GeneWeber" Hi Chuck, I've a lot to learn, but 110lbs seems like a very impressive number. Started thinking of numerous questions to ask, but did a google search of NX770CG first. Thanks for putting together an excellent website. The page showing wing construction was extremely informative. That did more to counter my "aluminum" musings than anything else. You have a beautiful plane, Gene BTW: Had some nice days in PA this week and had my motorcycle out for the first time this year. As I was riding I was thinking "OK, would an AirCamper be like the bike, and a Sonex, or 601 more like my car?" When not actually travelling anywhere, and the weather is nice, the car sits in the garage. :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105088#105088 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:18 AM PST US From: TBYH@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Squishing the Ends My solution was easy -- I purchased those components from Ken Perkins! : ) Sorry to be a wise-guy, but I'm on vacation from work today! Fred B. La Crosse, WI ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Group, Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:06 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer What keeps this bolt from backing out from continued vibration, over time, from either a Tinneman nut or a "Home Depot speednut"? Do you put a lock or star washer on the bolt (at the top of the HStab), use Loc-tite on its threads, or what? Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" >Sent: Apr 5, 2007 6:49 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer > > >Group, > >Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer. > >Mike C. > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:53 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer From: "Phillips, Jack" I used a locking nutplate attached to the bottom of the top longeron. It's pretty easy to see if the bolts are getting loose (mine have never loosened in nearly 100 hours of flight), since it is right on top of the stabilizer and available for easy inspection during the preflight. Jack Phillips -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer What keeps this bolt from backing out from continued vibration, over time, from either a Tinneman nut or a "Home Depot speednut"? Do you put a lock or star washer on the bolt (at the top of the HStab), use Loc-tite on its threads, or what? Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" >Sent: Apr 5, 2007 6:49 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: securing the LE of the Pietenpol stabilizer > > >Group, > >Here is a sketch of how I attached my LE stabilizer. > >Mike C. > > _________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:37 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain And I also did the same as Jack on the stab. Rick On 4/5/07, Phillips, Jack wrote: > > I did the same thing to mount the stabilizer, Dan. Used LONG AN3 bolts > going through the top longerons and into nutplates. Besides, have you tried > to find a #7 screw lately? > > > Jack Phillips > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of * > HelsperSew@aol.com > *Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:43 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New question from and old brain > > > Tom, > > Personally I don't like the idea of wood screws holding on the horizontal > stab. I used 3/16 bolts all the way through the longerons. No way those > will pull out. I kid around about worshiping at the alter of BHP, but I do > compromise on certain things. One of these is the Ford A engine. I am going > to have two mags with 8 plugs, along with the Weber carb (recommended by > Douwe from this list). I also had the Ford A modernized with the hardened > valve seats, modern valves, pistons, counterweighted crank ,and modern > bearings. I want a good reliable powerplant. My motivation is thinking > ahead about giving my grandchildren rides. > > > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > ------------------------------ > > See what's free at AOL.com . > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * * > > _________________________________________________ > > > Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:59 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Hi All, I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes. There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front of me). Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or currently flying airplanes? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:02 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of discussion (and experience) on the use of it on this and other homebuilder newsgroups, and have seen it on several Piets (and other aircraft) at Broadhead. Thats what I am going to use, no polybrush or polyspray or poly$$$$, just polytac it and latex it. Yes I know, its not going to look perfect 25 years from now, although if its hangered it's whole life it may not look that bad. Rick On 4/5/07, HelsperSew@aol.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the > testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes. > There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter > about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and > then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front > of me). Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or > currently flying airplanes? > Dan Helsper > Poplar Grove, IL. > > > ------------------------------ > See what's free at AOL.com . > > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:17 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint I guess I'm just old fashioned. I plan to roll on coloured butyrate dope from the local aircraft supplier. First clear coats brushed in, roll silver then roll colour. Of course that's a long way away. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Holland Sent: April 5, 2007 10:48 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of discussion (and experience) on the use of it on this and other homebuilder newsgroups, and have seen it on several Piets (and other aircraft) at Broadhead. Thats what I am going to use, no polybrush or polyspray or poly$$$$, just polytac it and latex it. Yes I know, its not going to look perfect 25 years from now, although if its hangered it's whole life it may not look that bad. Rick On 4/5/07, HelsperSew@aol.com wrote: Hi All, I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes. There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front of me). Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or currently flying airplanes? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See what's free at AOL.com. -- Rick Holland "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:26 AM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Heres a pic of my plane. Painted with Sherwin Williams house paint. Wing is Corn Yellow, satin finish and fuse is Gloss Blue. Still looks good after 4 years. I applied a coat of Poly Brush before painting. Dick N ----- Original Message ----- From: HelsperSew@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Hi All, I think it was last year there was a thread on this list addressing the testing of alternative paints other than the expensive aircraft finishes. There was an interesting article in this month's Brodhead Piet newsletter about this subject, where the writer suggested the use of KILZ primer and then water-based acrylic enamel I believe (I don't have the article in front of me). Does anyone have some current feedback on their test panels or currently flying airplanes? Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:54 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint From: "Bill Church" Dan, Thanks for the reminder. I made up a couple of test panels almost a year ago, coated only with latex primer and paint, and then promptly forgot to put one outside for weather testing. They're both sitting in my house. I've got to make up some kind of holder and put that thing outside. Here's a link to my test panels: http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=12 8 7&PlaneID=510&FName=Bill&LName=Church&PlaneName=Air%20Camper Bill C. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:42 AM PST US From: "Scott Knowlton" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Hey Bill: If you want to accelerate your weather testing I can bring your panel with me on my next layover to St John's Newfoundland and leave it stuck up in a tree along the coastline. If it survives a year there it'll be good for about ten years anywhere else! Scott Knowlton >From: "Bill Church" >To: >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:03:26 -0400 > >Dan, >Thanks for the reminder. >I made up a couple of test panels almost a year ago, coated only with >latex primer and paint, and then promptly forgot to put one outside for >weather testing. They're both sitting in my house. I've got to make up >some kind of holder and put that thing outside. Here's a link to my test >panels: > >http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReportDetail.cfm?BuildLogID=128 >7&PlaneID=510&FName=Bill&LName=Church&PlaneName=Air%20Camper > > >Bill C. > _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:29 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint From: The ultralight world is using this paint quite frequently on their aircraft builds and it works fine either rolled on or sprayed and they have been leaving their aircraft outside for years with no adverse effect. Do not archive Whats wrong with high quality exterior gloss latex? Been lots of discussion (and experience) on the use of it on this and other homebuilder newsgroups, and have seen it on several Piets (and other aircraft) at Broadhead. Thats what I am going to use, no polybrush or polyspray or poly$$$$, just polytac it and latex it. Yes I know, its not going to look perfect 25 years from now, although if its hangered it's whole life it may not look that bad. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:31 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint From: "Bill Church" Scott, If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award you some bonus points. I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest that that place definitely gets some extreme weather. Bill Do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:02 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paintThere are trees in St John's`s? Hard to see when it's foggy blowing and snowing all at the same time. Bob Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: April 5, 2007 1:26 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Scott, If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award you some bonus points. I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest that that place definitely gets some extreme weather. Bill Do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:44:43 AM PST US From: "Scott Knowlton" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint Bill, True enough. My last approach and landing in Torbay had the wind at 35 gusting 55 Kts quartering to any runway in heavy rain. Now that would be just as much a test of the latex paint as it was of my aircraft handling abilities... Fortunately in an Embraer and not a Pietenpol. Scott >From: "Bill Church" >To: >Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 13:25:36 -0400 > >Scott, >If you can figure out how to get it to stay up in the tree, I'll award >you some bonus points. >I lived in Newfoundland for a few years (in my youth) and I can attest >that that place definitely gets some extreme weather. > >Bill > >Do not archive > _________________________________________________________________ Fine Dining & Fancy Food. Check Out This Collection Of Good Eats. http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2&cidD6BDB4586E357F!378 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:41 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Prop From: "Don Emch" Gene, I think you'll really like how the prop does for you. Ed Sterba is a class act guy! Chris, I'm gonna try to escape out to the strip this evening to take some pictures. We just had our fourth baby on Monday, so things are a little hectic around here! Really enjoying it though!!! Mom and baby are healthy, so everything is good! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105192#105192 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:11:13 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New question from and old brain From: "Don Emch" I like to call myself a strong Pietenpol follower too. But I know of a very popular Piet with screws holding the stabilizer down and they worked loose. I think the holes eventually stripped in the wood. The owner fixed the problem, and I don't think it's an issue anymore. I used through bolts on the stabilizer "spar" holes and placed an ispection hole and cover on the bottom side of the fuselage so I can reach up in there and hold the nut with my fingers. You have to lay on the ground to see the cover. Not much of a change, but lots more piece of mind!! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105200#105200 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:47 PM PST US From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan) Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sherwin Willams paint Hello Dick N. What special metal preparation are needed to put S.W. paint on metal parts, cowl, gear etc. Leon S. in snowy ks. Going to have a white Easter. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:12 PM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Prop Don, Congrats on the addition of your new crew member. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Emch" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Prop > > Gene, > I think you'll really like how the prop does for you. Ed Sterba is a > class act guy! Chris, I'm gonna try to escape out to the strip this > evening to take some pictures. We just had our fourth baby on Monday, so > things are a little hectic around here! Really enjoying it though!!! Mom > and baby are healthy, so everything is good! > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105192#105192 > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:33 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sherwin Willams paint Leon My engine cowling is done in Imron epoxy. The bridge decks are done in house paint. I first primed with Zinc Chromate primer, then 2 coats of paint. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Stefan" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sherwin Willams paint > > Hello Dick N. What special metal preparation are needed to put S.W. > paint on metal parts, cowl, gear etc. Leon S. in snowy ks. Going to have > a white Easter. > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:58 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paintA little update from our RAA forum, Canucks. McMaster Carr is no longer selling outside the US except certain companies. Apparently they have had their wrists slapped for selling to "inappropriate individuals" in "Inappropriate countries". ????? Their answer to the problem? Don't sell to anybody. Apparently these guys are good though; http://www.rpmmech.com Clif Good thing my daughter and significant other have seen the light and are leaving Halifax for the REALLY BIG TREE country here on the wetcoast. :-) Now if I could just get the other one back from Toronto. :-) :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Gow To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Alternative fabric paint There are trees in St John's`s? Hard to see when it's foggy blowing and snowing all at the same time. 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