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     1. 08:41 AM - Re: Montana School Piet (Tim Willis)
     2. 10:24 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (shad bell)
     3. 10:46 AM - Re: Alternative fabric paint (Rick Holland)
     4. 02:34 PM - latex paint (TGSTONE236@aol.com)
     5. 06:24 PM - Re: latex paint (Jim Markle)
     6. 06:28 PM - Re: Montana School Piet (Dick Navratil)
     7. 07:35 PM - Re: Squishing the Ends (Tom Stinemetze)
     8. 08:05 PM - Re: Tachometer - where do you find one (Tom Stinemetze)
     9. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one (DJ Vegh)
    10. 09:21 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one (Rick Holland)
    11. 11:36 PM - Re: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one (DJ Vegh)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Montana School Piet | 
      
      
      Dick,
      
      I mailed a check yesterday, but you may not get it in time.  It takes our mail
      a while to get anywhere-- first it goes by mule to Waco, then heads farther north.
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      >Sent: Apr 6, 2007 5:26 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Montana School Piet
      >
      >Thanks to all that have sent in a donation for the Montana kids.  If anybody else
      has been thinking about it, there is still time to get it in before I send
      off the packet to their teacher, next Thur the 12 th.  I will be sending along
      all of the notes guys have sent along.
      >As a reminder
      >Check to EAA Chapter 57
      >Dick Navratil
      >1415 Skiles Ln.
      >Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      
      I say use the heck out of it, Latex will probably last as long as poly woly big
      bucks.  It will at least last as long as you will want it to.  I would say recovering
      in 20-25 years is probably a smart thing to do, even if for none other
      than a very good inspection of the structure.  For you folks who don't like
      the toxicity of MEK based poly tack, brush and what not, dad used a water based
      fabric cement called Ceco-Bond.  You just mix with water and brush on.  to seal
      the fabric you dilute it with more water and brush it over the whole surface.
      It is an approved product on some older airplanes like cubs and champs via
      STC.  Don't get me wrong poly fiber is a GREAT system, it will work great.  But
      if your building for GO and not SHOW and still want a good looking final product
      use the latex, and save that money for gas and hanger rent.  Heck, I would
      bet Bernnie did not use top dollar aircraft dope on his.  Probably used old
      barn paint or whatever he had. (maybe thats why
       they were red?) 
        Just my 2 cents
        Shad
      
      
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      Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Alternative fabric paint | 
      
      Totally agree, the latex on my house has been exposed (unhangered) to direct
      Colorado sunlight at 6500 ft. for 11 years and it looks no different than
      the day we moved in (and it was not the higher quality latex either). If I
      fly my Piet 100 hours a year and hanger it the rest of the time it would
      take 482 years to get the same direct sunlight exposure time, and I don't
      plan on needing to repaint anytime soon.
      
      Rick
      
      On 4/7/07, shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > I say use the heck out of it, Latex will probably last as long as poly
      > woly big bucks.  It will at least last as long as you will want it to.  I
      > would say recovering in 20-25 years is probably a smart thing to do, even if
      > for none other than a very good inspection of the structure.
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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      I have had good results using latex on wooden boats.
      
      Here is an article you might find interesting
      
      _www.simplicityboats/latexcarnel.html_ 
      (http://www.simplicityboats/latexcarnel.html) 
      
      Ted Stone building a corvair powered Piet
      
      
      ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
      
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      I had to add .com to the www.simplicity link below (to make it 
      www.simplicityboats.com/latexcarnel.html) but it was well worth it!  
      VERY interesting article!
      
      Thanks Ted
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: TGSTONE236@aol.com 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 4:33 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: latex paint
      
      
        I have had good results using latex on wooden boats.
      
        Here is an article you might find interesting
      
        www.simplicityboats/latexcarnel.html
      
        Ted Stone building a corvair powered Piet
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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        See what's free at AOL.com. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Montana School Piet | 
      
      
      Tim
      Thanks for letting me know.  I'll be watching for it.
      Dick
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:40 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Montana School Piet
      
      
      > <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Dick,
      >
      > I mailed a check yesterday, but you may not get it in time.  It takes our 
      > mail a while to get anywhere-- first it goes by mule to Waco, then heads 
      > farther north.
      >
      > Tim in central TX
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      >>From: Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
      >>Sent: Apr 6, 2007 5:26 PM
      >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Montana School Piet
      >>
      >>Thanks to all that have sent in a donation for the Montana kids.  If 
      >>anybody else has been thinking about it, there is still time to get it in 
      >>before I send off the packet to their teacher, next Thur the 12 th.  I 
      >>will be sending along all of the notes guys have sent along.
      >>As a reminder
      >>Check to EAA Chapter 57
      >>Dick Navratil
      >>1415 Skiles Ln.
      >>Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Squishing the Ends | 
      
      
      AMEN to that. Ken really knows what he is doing (and I don't - yet.) Ken
      has also come up with a bellcrank design that gets the elevator  cable
      geometry right.  i.e. you don't need a friction control device on top of
      the horizontal stab to keep the cables from rubbing a hole in the
      covering.  It may not be the way BHP did it but I bet he would have used
      it had he seen it.
      
       < My solution was easy -- I purchased those components from Ken
      Perkins! : ) >
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      The Airplane Nut
      ____ | ____
             \8/
             / \
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tachometer - where do you find one | 
      
      Listers:
      
      I am getting very close to having a panel to start designing my
      instrument layout.  Consequently I need to find the sizes and spacing
      requirements for the final layout.  I am having a little trouble trying
      to figure out where to find a tachometer that looks right for a
      Pietenpol but still operates electrically.  I remember seeing one on
      DJ's website that has a max RPM of 3500 and receives it's signals from a
      tooth counter on the flywheel.  (I'm also planning to use a Corvair
      engine.)  The ones William Wynne recommends are digital which I suspect
      would get me laughed off the list.  Any recommendations would be greatly
      appreciated.
      
      Tom Stinemetze
      The Airplane Nut
      
      ____ | ____
             \8/
             / \
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tachometer - where do you find one | 
      
      Messagemy analog tach was a Datcon.  Datcon also makes the tooth counter 
      which worked quite well.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Tom Stinemetze 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:04 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one
      
      
        Listers:
      
        I am getting very close to having a panel to start designing my 
      instrument layout.  Consequently I need to find the sizes and spacing 
      requirements for the final layout.  I am having a little trouble trying 
      to figure out where to find a tachometer that looks right for a 
      Pietenpol but still operates electrically.  I remember seeing one on 
      DJ's website that has a max RPM of 3500 and receives it's signals from a 
      tooth counter on the flywheel.  (I'm also planning to use a Corvair 
      engine.)  The ones William Wynne recommends are digital which I suspect 
      would get me laughed off the list.  Any recommendations would be greatly 
      appreciated.
      
        Tom Stinemetze
        The Airplane Nut
      
        ____ | ____
               \8/
               / \
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tachometer - where do you find one | 
      
      DJ - I thought you installed an EMS, why did you need a separate tach?
      
      Rick
      
      On 4/7/07, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
      >
      >  my analog tach was a Datcon.  Datcon also makes the tooth counter which
      > worked quite well.
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > *From:* Tom Stinemetze <tstinemetze@cox.net>
      > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > *Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:04 PM
      > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one
      >
      > Listers:
      >
      > I am getting very close to having a panel to start designing my instrument
      > layout.  Consequently I need to find the sizes and spacing requirements for
      > the final layout.  I am having a little trouble trying to figure out where
      > to find a tachometer that looks right for a Pietenpol but still operates
      > electrically.  I remember seeing one on DJ's website that has a max RPM of
      > 3500 and receives it's signals from a tooth counter on the flywheel.  (I'm
      > also planning to use a Corvair engine.)  The ones William Wynne recommends
      > are digital which I suspect would get me laughed off the list.  Any
      > recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
      >
      > Tom Stinemetze
      > The Airplane Nut
      >
      > ____ | ____
      >        \8/
      >        / \
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tachometer - where do you find one | 
      
      I did install an EMS.  but I wanted an analog tach in the panel.  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rick Holland 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:20 PM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one
      
      
        DJ - I thought you installed an EMS, why did you need a separate tach?
      
        Rick
      
      
        On 4/7/07, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com > wrote:
          my analog tach was a Datcon.  Datcon also makes the tooth counter 
      which worked quite well.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Tom Stinemetze 
            To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
            Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:04 PM
            Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tachometer - where do you find one
      
      
            Listers:
      
            I am getting very close to having a panel to start designing my 
      instrument layout.  Consequently I need to find the sizes and spacing 
      requirements for the final layout.  I am having a little trouble trying 
      to figure out where to find a tachometer that looks right for a 
      Pietenpol but still operates electrically.  I remember seeing one on 
      DJ's website that has a max RPM of 3500 and receives it's signals from a 
      tooth counter on the flywheel.  (I'm also planning to use a Corvair 
      engine.)  The ones William Wynne recommends are digital which I suspect 
      would get me laughed off the list.  Any recommendations would be greatly 
      appreciated.
      
            Tom Stinemetze
            The Airplane Nut
      
            ____ | ____
                   \8/
                   / \
      
      
        -- 
        Rick Holland
      
        "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad" 
      
      
 
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