Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Fri 04/13/07


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 06:24 AM - Yes, there are Piets in Southern California (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     2. 07:16 AM - make that 60 miles SE of LA (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
     3. 10:02 AM - Re: Piet kids (Tim Willis)
     4. 10:08 AM - PFA type acceptance (Steve Glass)
     5. 10:13 AM - Re: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California (cgomez)
     6. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California (amsafetyc@aol.com)
     7. 11:06 AM - Re: Piet kids (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
     8. 12:54 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (baileys)
     9. 01:19 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (baileys)
    10. 01:36 PM - Piet with a canopy (Bill Church)
    11. 01:46 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
    12. 01:56 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy (Tim Willis)
    13. 02:18 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (baileys)
    14. 02:19 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy (baileys)
    15. 02:28 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
    16. 02:57 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (Peter W Johnson)
    17. 04:26 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
    18. 06:19 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy ()
    19. 07:45 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy (Robert Gow)
    20. 11:13 PM - Re: Piet with a canopy (Clif Dawson)
    21. 11:15 PM - Re: PFA type acceptance (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:24:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    John---did you not see my posting about EAA Chapter 1279 about 60 miles SW of LA who have a very nice Piet project going ? For more info go here: There was an article in Sport Aviation written by Steve Williamson (EAA 1279's President) about the project in the March issue as well. "If you would like to get involved, by all means, come out and join us any Saturday morning from 8 to noon at the French Valley Airport - Bldg. 95, Hangar 15. See you there." Steve Williamson, Pres. http://www.eaa1279.org/Pietenpol.htm >From Doc Mosher's Piet directory you might want to check on these guys too: Walt Bowe San Ramon, CA Milestones of Flight Museum, Lancaster CA Bill VAnHorn, Blythe, CA Hiller Aviation Museum, San Carlos, CA John Watson, Chico, CA Dan Benner, Cedarville, CA Paul Sherman, Riverside, CA Leslie Deline, San Diego, CA Joann Painter, Mojave, CA Ray Martin, Fort Jones, CA Dave Cleveland, Rancho Palos Verde, CA Henry Hayes, Blythe, CA Martin Vandenbroek, Lompac, CA Jim Kearns, Placerville, CA Dennis Heiny, Escalon, CA Robert Miller, Novato, CA Dan Patterson, Auburn, CA Malcom Muir, Quincy, CA Dave Wheatley, Escondido, CA Larry Robbins, Burson, CA Dave Thompson, Fortuna, CA


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    Time: 07:16:11 AM PST US
    Subject: make that 60 miles SE of LA
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>


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    Time: 10:02:24 AM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet kids
    Dick, Great note. Thanks. I am sure the kids will gain an appreciation that they are part of something bigger than they thought, and far bigger than all of us-- the continuation of the venerable heritage of this pluckly little aeroplane. A quest for all of us, as a matter of fact. What a great bunch of kids they are, too. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net> >Sent: Apr 12, 2007 9:01 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet kids > >Hey all >I sent off the packet tonight with the checks still in all of your original envelopes. To date we raised $405. There are still a few more checks to come in and if you happen to stop by the Wood Shop I would be glad to take checks there too. >I have attached a copy of the letter that I enclosed with the checks. >After I respond to a couple of e mails I'm packing the computer for the morning drive to Sun n Fun. >Thanks much >Dick


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    Time: 10:08:27 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Glass" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
    Subject: PFA type acceptance
    Hi I found this document from England with some interesting points. I'm trying to get a drawing of the English built up spar. Best regards Steve in Maine _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office


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    Time: 10:13:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California
    From: "cgomez" <cgomez@sportplanes.tv>
    John, I live in Torrance Ca. and would love to show you my Piet project, but unfortunately, I will be leaving for Sun n Fun the same day you arrive. You might want to check out the EAA chapter at Corona airport. They have a Piet project that they have been working on. Here are a few pics that i took while out there one Saturday morning. http://www.gomerair.com/Photos/Eaachapter494/ I can get you a contact name and number of one of the members if you like. Just let me know. Also, for the rest of you in So Cal, on April 28th and 29th, Flabob airport is having a pietenpol gathering. Check here for details. http://www.eaach1.org/images/pietenpol.gif Chris Gomez Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106723#106723


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    Time: 10:26:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California
    From: amsafetyc@aol.com
    Hey Chris Thanks for getting back to to me on this, I think I got something pretty well set up for Monday evening, thanks! I do travel to So Cal on occasion so if not this trip , maybe next we can get togehther. Thanks for contacting me and enjoy the Sun and Fun. I am hoping to get to Broadhead this year to meet other Pieters. Happy flying John -----Original Message----- From: cgomez@sportplanes.tv Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Yes, there are Piets in Southern California John, I live in Torrance Ca. and would love to show you my Piet project, but unfortunately, I will be leaving for Sun n Fun the same day you arrive. You might want to check out the EAA chapter at Corona airport. They have a Piet project that they have been working on. Here are a few pics that i took while out there one Saturday morning. http://www.gomerair.com/Photos/Eaachapter494/ I can get you a contact name and number of one of the members if you like. Just let me know. Also, for the rest of you in So Cal, on April 28th and 29th, Flabob airport is having a pietenpol gathering. Check here for details. http://www.eaach1.org/images/pietenpol.gif Chris Gomez Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106723#106723 ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:06:30 AM PST US
    From: Pietsrneat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Piet kids
    In a message dated 4/12/2007 11:07:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, horzpool@goldengate.net writes: Hey all I sent off the packet tonight with the checks still in all of your original envelopes. To date we raised $405. There are still a few more checks to come in and if you happen to stop by the Wood Shop I would be glad to take checks there too. I have attached a copy of the letter that I enclosed with the checks. After I respond to a couple of e mails I'm packing the computer for the morning drive to Sun n Fun. Thanks much Dick , Just wanted to thank you personally for taking the time to do all that for the kids...and us. Ron ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 12:54:23 PM PST US
    From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    Best of luck on that one, I tried for 3 months and got no response whatever. Also I got no response from the Pietenpol family when I tried to contact them about it. At one time there was a web site showing construction of the spar. I believe it was in Autralia. Bob B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glass To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Hi I found this document from England with some interesting points. I'm trying to get a drawing of the English built up spar. Best regards Steve in Maine _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office


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    Time: 01:19:40 PM PST US
    From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    Here is the web site http://www.cpc-world.com/ There is even a u-tube video at the bottom of the home page. Nice pictures of the entire construction process. Bob B. ----- Original Message ----- From: baileys To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Best of luck on that one, I tried for 3 months and got no response whatever. Also I got no response from the Pietenpol family when I tried to contact them about it. At one time there was a web site showing construction of the spar. I believe it was in Autralia. Bob B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glass To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Hi I found this document from England with some interesting points. I'm trying to get a drawing of the English built up spar. Best regards Steve in Maine _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office


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    Time: 01:36:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Piet with a canopy
    From: "Bill Church" <eng@canadianrogers.com>
    Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one (as well as a bunch of other Pietenpol photos I hadn't found before). Before you open the link, brace yourself. This machine looks quite different - it has a reeeeeeeallllly looooooooonnnnnnngg motor mount extension. While the canopy idea makes sense for those of us up in the Great White North, with it's short open cockpit flying season, I find the appearance of this canopy really detracting. Maybe if it was easily removable - only to be used when it's too cold out for anyone to be watching... Okay, take a look: http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ Bill C.


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    Time: 01:46:19 PM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    for some straneg reason I am unable to access Peter's page. I keep getting a mesage that the page can not be displayed. any idea whats up with that? been that way for a while. michael in maine ----- Original Message ----- From: baileys To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Here is the web site http://www.cpc-world.com/ There is even a u-tube video at the bottom of the home page. Nice pictures of the entire construction process. Bob B.


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    Time: 01:56:15 PM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet with a canopy
    Bill, Thanks for the warning. My heart might not have stood it otherwise. Then I started looking for the bugspray nozzles- the Piper Agrothingie has a canopy like that. I suspect that the pilot weighed mucho, and with the canopy, needed that kind of engine extension. I wooooooooooooonder how it handled. If it did, what a forgiving basic design!!! Wisconsin seems too warm a spot to require butchering a Piet like that. Besides, open cockpit is what it's about, IMO. Easy to say here, though, where we have only "Summer" and a few months of "Other." Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> >Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:35 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy > >Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a >canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one (as well as a bunch >of other Pietenpol photos I hadn't found before). Before you open the >link, brace yourself. This machine looks quite different - it has a >reeeeeeeallllly looooooooonnnnnnngg motor mount extension. While the >canopy idea makes sense for those of us up in the Great White North, >with it's short open cockpit flying season, I find the appearance of >this canopy really detracting. Maybe if it was easily removable - only >to be used when it's too cold out for anyone to be watching... > >Okay, take a look: > > >http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ > > >Bill C.


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    Time: 02:18:38 PM PST US
    From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    I tried it again and it worked for me, however this address was at the top. http://www.cpc-world.com:80/ Let me know if this doesn't work. Bob B. ----- Original Message ----- From: MICHAEL SILVIUS To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance for some straneg reason I am unable to access Peter's page. I keep getting a mesage that the page can not be displayed. any idea whats up with that? been that way for a while. michael in maine ----- Original Message ----- From: baileys To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Here is the web site http://www.cpc-world.com/ There is even a u-tube video at the bottom of the home page. Nice pictures of the entire construction process. Bob B.


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    Time: 02:19:46 PM PST US
    From: "baileys" <baileys@ktis.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet with a canopy
    Uuum isn't Brodhead in Wisconsin? <grin> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Willis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy <timothywillis@earthlink.net> Bill, Thanks for the warning. My heart might not have stood it otherwise. Then I started looking for the bugspray nozzles- the Piper Agrothingie has a canopy like that. I suspect that the pilot weighed mucho, and with the canopy, needed that kind of engine extension. I wooooooooooooonder how it handled. If it did, what a forgiving basic design!!! Wisconsin seems too warm a spot to require butchering a Piet like that. Besides, open cockpit is what it's about, IMO. Easy to say here, though, where we have only "Summer" and a few months of "Other." Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> >Sent: Apr 13, 2007 4:35 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy > >Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a >canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one (as well as a bunch >of other Pietenpol photos I hadn't found before). Before you open the >link, brace yourself. This machine looks quite different - it has a >reeeeeeeallllly looooooooonnnnnnngg motor mount extension. While the >canopy idea makes sense for those of us up in the Great White North, >with it's short open cockpit flying season, I find the appearance of >this canopy really detracting. Maybe if it was easily removable - only >to be used when it's too cold out for anyone to be watching... > >Okay, take a look: > > >http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ > > >Bill C.


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    Time: 02:28:08 PM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: Piet with a canopy
    wow looks like a high wing AG cat. but while on the subject, check out the photo on page 41 of the latest EEA magazine, the one with the article on the rebuid of the Comstock Piet. Did anyone notice the grey tube structure sloping back from the top of the cabanes behind the heads of the project participants? any ideas as to what that may be? or am I just imagineering things here? also doesn't that center section look rather small? michael in maine ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Church Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ Bill C.


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    Time: 02:57:29 PM PST US
    From: "Peter W Johnson" <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: PFA type acceptance
    Hi Guys, There shouldn=92t be any problem accessing the site. Anybody else have any problems? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL SILVIUS Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2007 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance for some straneg reason I am unable to access Peter's page. I keep getting a mesage that the page can not be displayed. any idea whats up with that? been that way for a while. michael in maine ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:baileys@ktis.net"baileys "mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com"pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PFA type acceptance Here is the web site HYPERLINK "http://www.cpc-world.com/"http://www.cpc-world.com/ There is even a u-tube video at the bottom of the home page. Nice pictures of the entire construction process. Bob B. "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List"http://www.matronics.c om/ Navigator?Pietenpol-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com 12/04/2007 7:58 PM -- 12/04/2007 7:58 PM


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    Time: 04:26:55 PM PST US
    From: "MICHAEL SILVIUS" <M.Silvius@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    Peter: Still the same problem as before. Almost a year ago I use to be able to see your page though it took a long time to load up, as I am on a phone line. But now I get this odd behavior and cant seem to get on it. I use both Internet Explorer and Mozila and both behave the same. Dont know if it is my browser settings or ATT (my isp) sure would like to see your progress. I am at a loss as I am a dummy whan it comes to these machines so if anyone has any sugestions you can email me backchanel at m.silvius(at)att.net so we dont eat up band with with this. thanks michael in maine ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter W Johnson Hi Guys, There shouldn=92t be any problem accessing the site. Anybody else have any problems? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com


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    Time: 06:19:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Piet with a canopy
    From: <harvey.rule@bell.ca>
    Looks like one of those Pawnee crop dusters.It would be handy for winter flying if you could attach it in winter and take it off in summer. Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: April 13, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one (as well as a bunch of other Pietenpol photos I hadn't found before). Before you open the link, brace yourself. This machine looks quite different - it has a reeeeeeeallllly looooooooonnnnnnngg motor mount extension. While the canopy idea makes sense for those of us up in the Great White North, with it's short open cockpit flying season, I find the appearance of this canopy really detracting. Maybe if it was easily removable - only to be used when it's too cold out for anyone to be watching... Okay, take a look: http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ Bill C.


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    Time: 07:45:23 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Piet with a canopy
    Actually I've thought of doing up a Piet along the lines of the Corbin Cabin Ace from the old flying and glider manual. It was a single seater. Very cute. But with a two seater the view forward might not be so great. But hey, you flew the cub from the back. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of harvey.rule@bell.ca Sent: April 13, 2007 9:19 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy Looks like one of those Pawnee crop dusters.It would be handy for winter flying if you could attach it in winter and take it off in summer. Do not archive ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: April 13, 2007 4:35 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet with a canopy Every now and then someone asks if a Pietenpol can be fitted with a canopy. Well, I just stumbled across a photo of one (as well as a bunch of other Pietenpol photos I hadn't found before). Before you open the link, brace yourself. This machine looks quite different - it has a reeeeeeeallllly looooooooonnnnnnngg motor mount extension. While the canopy idea makes sense for those of us up in the Great White North, with it's short open cockpit flying season, I find the appearance of this canopy really detracting. Maybe if it was easily removable - only to be used when it's too cold out for anyone to be watching... Okay, take a look: http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1031240/ Bill C.


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    Time: 11:13:35 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Piet with a canopy
    Hahahaha! That's another plane behind the Piet! Clif Did anyone notice the grey tube structure sloping back from the top of the cabanes behind the heads of the project participants? any ideas as to what that may be? or am I just imagineering things here? also doesn't that center section look rather small? michael in maine


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    Time: 11:15:18 PM PST US
    From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: PFA type acceptance
    Works fine. Clif Hi Guys, There shouldn=92t be any problem accessing the site. Anybody else have any problems? Cheers Peter Wonthaggi Australia http://www.cpc-world.com




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