---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/23/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:28 AM - GN-1 Roll Call (Jim Cooper) 2. 06:49 AM - front cockpit shoulder harness attach (Oscar Zuniga) 3. 07:42 AM - Re: front cockpit shoulder harness attach (Tim Willis) 4. 07:58 AM - Re: front cockpit shoulder harness attach () 5. 09:18 AM - moving to San Antonio (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 03:38 PM - Garmin 196 on eBay (Mike Kerley) 7. 08:38 PM - Re: front cockpit shoulder harness attach (Catdesigns) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:00 AM PST US From: "Jim Cooper" Subject: Pietenpol-List: GN-1 Roll Call My partner, Tom Schildt, and I have been working on our GN-1, purchased from South Lakeland Sport Aviation in Florida about 5 years ago. Included in the purchase were the wings & tail feathers (uncovered), 4130 steel fuselage, and landing gear. Also purchased separately a C-85 engine. Our shop is north of Abbeville, Louisiana. Have met with Corky in Shreveport and his wonderful wife, Isabelle several times. They are a true inspiration. Look forward to meeting Wayne Poole in Denham Springs, Louisiana, who I see from the list is also building a GN-1, and any other nearby builders. Jim Cooper blugoos1@hughes.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:00 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach OK, I took a few pictures of my shoulder harness attach setup and put them on a webpage, at http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/harness.html Once again, note that this idea is not original with me... I took it from an idea that was in the BPA Newsletter. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:19 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach Oscar, Elegant solution. Really nifty. BTW, if that notch in the top of the ash block is the rear sight, is the "brazing rod fuel gauge" the front sight? ;) Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Oscar Zuniga >Sent: Apr 23, 2007 9:48 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach > > >OK, I took a few pictures of my shoulder harness attach setup and put them >on a webpage, at >http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/harness.html > >Once again, note that this idea is not original with me... I took it from an >idea that was in the BPA Newsletter. > >Oscar Zuniga >San Antonio, TX >mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com >website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. >http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:29 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach Oscar, It looks like I will be moving to the west side of San Antonio, I drove the area Saturday and looked at Castroville, San Geronimo and Boerne stage Airports. Do you have any opinions on these three? Or perhaps you know of a hanger. I really liked San Geronimo. Steve Dortch Just lurking the Pietenpol site I own a 1948 Bonanza and eventually want a Low/Slow/open airplane, like a Piet. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach > > OK, I took a few pictures of my shoulder harness attach setup and put > them > on a webpage, at > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/harness.html > > Once again, note that this idea is not original with me... I took it > from an > idea that was in the BPA Newsletter. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win > today. > http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:13 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: moving to San Antonio Steve wrote- >It looks like I will be moving to the west side of San Antonio Welcome to the neighborhood! Come by and see me some Saturday... last hangar (I think it's the beige one), next to last hangar facing south. If the door is open, stop by. If you can fit in the Piet, we'll go up! >Castroville, San Geronimo and Boerne stage Airports. >Do you have any opinions on these three? I am based at San Geronimo and it's where the EAA Chapter 35 hangar and clubhouse are located. Lots of building activity on the field and hangars are occasionally available, or you can sub-rent or share one. Lots of builder support and lots of friendly folks. The Chapter has a large assortment of tools and services available for builders. There is no fuel on the field and no runway lighting. Castroville is where most pilots out of San Geronimo get fuel and it, too, is very flying friendly but I don't have any details about what's available there. It is 10-15 minutes away from San Geronimo by Pietenpol, depending on headwind ;o) Boerne Stage is a nifty place, lots of sailplane activity, but I don't have much info on that one either. >I own a 1948 Bonanza People routinely fly Bo's and Mooneys out of San Geronimo, along with just about everything else. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:05 PM PST US From: Mike Kerley Subject: Pietenpol-List: Garmin 196 on eBay I just listed my pristine Garmin 196 on eBay. I used it in my Cessna but upgraded to a 296 a couple of months ago. My 196 is available for inspection at Bruce Field in Central Texas (E30, San Antonio Sectional) should anyone like a preview. Ebay auction #260110714726. It comes with a 64 megabyte card and the original boxes and manuals. Thanks, Sterling Knot-2-Shabby Airport 5TA6, San Antonio Sectional __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:16 PM PST US From: "Catdesigns" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach I mean no offence Oscar, but does anyone else see problems with this setup? I would be worried that in the even to sudden deceleration (crash) the wing along with the cross wires the harness is attached to would go forward. Correct me if I am wrong here Oscar, but I believe this is what happened to 41CC when it crashed. These pictures Oscar took show it what I am talking about. Alternatively, they might have failed due to compression when the plane flipped over. http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/incident/PB130005.JPG http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/incident/PB130010.JPG To avoid this the front diagonal down tubes (not on the drawings) would need to be large diameter and the connection between these and the front wing supports would have to be very strong. In Oscars case the front connection on the right brace broke at the Heim joint. The other problem I see is cable stretch. There isn't a lot of room between your face and the instrument panel. If the cables stretch the harness isn't going to help much. Nothing wrong with using cables but the pull needs to be aligned with the cable not 90 degrees to it. Only the tension in the cable will resist the forward pull from the harness and I doubt anyone will put in enough tension into the cross braces to make them not flex. Adding a shoulder harness to the front cockpit is very difficult. I sure wish I had a suggestion or a solution better but nothing I can come up with is ideal. I haven't decided how I am going to do mine yet but I think anything we try is better then nothing. Good for Oscar to at least try something. Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 6:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: front cockpit shoulder harness attach > > > OK, I took a few pictures of my shoulder harness attach setup and put them > on a webpage, at > http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/harness.html > > Once again, note that this idea is not original with me... I took it from > an idea that was in the BPA Newsletter. > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. > http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.