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1. 05:25 AM - Wing Strut Forks (John Egan)
2. 06:27 AM - Re: wire wheels (Dan Loegering)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Wing Strut Forks ()
4. 06:42 AM - Re: Wing Strut Forks ()
5. 06:45 AM - Re: Wing Strut Forks ()
6. 08:16 AM - Re: Wing Strut Forks (hvandervoo@aol.com)
7. 08:59 AM - Re: Wing Strut Forks (John Egan)
8. 01:43 PM - Strut forks. (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
9. 02:12 PM - Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware (Ryan Michalkiewicz)
10. 04:03 PM - Re: Strut forks. (Pietsrneat@aol.com)
11. 04:22 PM - Re: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware (walt evans)
12. 06:48 PM - Re: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware (Gordon Bowen)
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| Subject: | Wing Strut Forks |
Hello group,
I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched the archives
and have not found this specific information. I plan to use the Sky-Tek
Aluminum struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut end, and a "fork end".
I find three fork end options in Aircraft Spruce. Would people like to share
thier knowledge to determine which fork may be best suited for this appliation
(lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely over the
flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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I have posted some of the questions to Robert on the wheels, but here was a preliminary
response to some questions that I had on them... I'll let the group
know what the reply is on the remaining questions.
Dan L
Fargo, ND
Dan
Our wheel shouldn't have any problems at that wt. our hub has 1.25" ID oil lite
bushings with a 7.25" wide hub it's also drilled to attach a break if required.
Robert
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Loegering <danl@odayequipment.com>
>Sent: Apr 2, 2007 1:46 PM
>To: rbaslee@peoplepc.com
>Subject: Wheel kits
>
>Hello,
>
>I ran across your web site while searching for wheels for my project. They look
like they would fit the bill nicely, but wanted to run it by you to get your
thoughts before purchasing them.
>
>I am building a Pietenpol air camper with straight axle gear (Jenny style). Gross
weight with two aboard should be around 1,150 - 1,200 lbs. Will the wheels
you have be okay in that weight range? What axle dia. fits with the bearings
you supply? Are any of your builders using breaks with their setups?
>
>Thank you for the info!
>
>Dan Loegering
>O'Day Equipment, LLC
>(701)282-9260
>800-654-6329
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| Subject: | Wing Strut Forks |
Some pics;not sure if this is what you want.
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
Sent: April 27, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Strut Forks
Hello group,
I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched
the archives and have not found this specific information. I plan to use
the Sky-Tek Aluminum struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut
end, and a "fork end". I find three fork end options in Aircraft
Spruce. Would people like to share thier knowledge to determine which
fork may be best suited for this appliation (lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely
over the flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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| Subject: | Wing Strut Forks |
A few more pics
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
Sent: April 27, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Strut Forks
Hello group,
I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched
the archives and have not found this specific information. I plan to use
the Sky-Tek Aluminum struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut
end, and a "fork end". I find three fork end options in Aircraft
Spruce. Would people like to share thier knowledge to determine which
fork may be best suited for this appliation (lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely
over the flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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| Subject: | Wing Strut Forks |
A few more
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
Sent: April 27, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Strut Forks
Hello group,
I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched
the archives and have not found this specific information. I plan to use
the Sky-Tek Aluminum struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut
end, and a "fork end". I find three fork end options in Aircraft
Spruce. Would people like to share thier knowledge to determine which
fork may be best suited for this appliation (lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely
over the flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Strut Forks |
John,
I used :
05-06000WING STRUT FORK # 13370-00
The fork is the right dimension for the sheet metal fitting at the fuselage.
One comment: you mentioned aluminum inserts, I would not recommend aluminum as
the Fork has a fine UNF thread. you can easily strip the threads, you need course
thread forks (do not know where you can get those) for aluminum.
You should use Steel inserts with this UNF thread.
I did not use Aluminum Sky-Tek struts but opted for the traditional steel with
the welded insert
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: johnegan99@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Strut Forks
Hello group,
I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched the archives
and have not found this specific information. I plan to use the Sky-Tek Aluminum
struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut end, and a "fork end".
I find three fork end options in Aircraft Spruce. Would people like to share
thier knowledge to determine which fork may be best suited for this appliation
(lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely over the
flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Strut Forks |
Thanks all. Yes Hans, I meant "steel" insert in the "aluminum" strut, good catch.
I believe I made my fuselage fitting out of 0.090" flat steel doubled up,
but I'll have to measure to be sure. That's why I am looking for the fork gap
dimension. Thank you guys.
hvandervoo@aol.com wrote: John,
I used :
05-06000 WING STRUT FORK # 13370-00
The fork is the right dimension for the sheet metal fitting at the fuselage.
One comment: you mentioned aluminum inserts, I would not recommend aluminum as
the Fork has a fine UNF thread. you can easily strip the threads, you need
course thread forks (do not know where you can get those) for aluminum.
You should use Steel inserts with this UNF thread.
I did not use Aluminum Sky-Tek struts but opted for the traditional steel with
the welded insert
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: johnegan99@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wing Strut Forks
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I would like to learn more about "Wing Strut Forks". I have searched the archives
and have not found this specific information. I plan to use the Sky-Tek
Aluminum struts with an aluminum insert at the lower strut end, and a "fork end".
I find three fork end options in Aircraft Spruce. Would people like to share
thier knowledge to determine which fork may be best suited for this appliation
(lower wing strut ends)?
1. Wing Strut fork #13370-00 p/n05-06000 $82 7/16-20 thread
2. Wing Strut fork #14481-00 p/n05-08575 $86 7/16-20 thread
3. Aeronca Wing Strut fork p/n 05-08575 $60
4. Others?
Is there a standard gap width of the fork, so we know it'll fit nicely over the
flat tab fitting at the fuselage?
Thank you for any information.
john
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Hi John: I bought 4 large turnbuckle forks from B & B aircraft for
about 2 bucks each. I don't have them in front of me but I'm sure the
shank is 3/8" They probably worked a control for a B-52 so ought to be
strong enough for a Piet wing strut. Leon S. in Ks.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware |
Friends, let first say it is not easy admitting to being taken advantage of. Wanting
to build a GN-1, I was excited to see the following ad on Barnstormers.com.;
AIRCRAFT PLANS & BOOKS MUST SELL Airbike, Fly Baby, Taylorcraft, Pietenpol,
Playboy, Smith Miniplane plans. See my inventory page. Contact Gary E. Kleiner
- located Eugene, OR USA Telephone: 303-241-7074 Posted March 29, 2007 Display
Inventory Page Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend This
Ad to a Friend Email Advertiser Report This Ad
I was a bit apprehensive, but after googling him and talking to Gary, I felt
a bit more comfortable sending him a money order for $120. He seemed like a harmless
old timer. Basically, what I got for $120 was a roll of worthless copies
of Pietenpol and GN-1 plans, and some feeble explanation of acid paper. The
plan numbers were removed. What this man is doing is terrible. As of now he has
refused to reimburse me. He has a cell phone out of Colorado, I mailed the check
to Eugene OR, and the copies were shipped from Riverside CA. Seems shady.
I am a bit upset Gary.
Buyer Be Ware
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Strut forks. |
Leon,
What is "B & B Aircraft"?
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware |
Ryan,
Why do you say they are worthless? Are they complete?
Believe me,,,the Pietenpol plans don't look like much when you get
them. Only about 8 pages of hand drawings. but there all there.
maybe you're jumping the gun
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Michalkiewicz
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware
Friends, let first say it is not easy admitting to being taken
advantage of. Wanting to build a GN-1, I was excited to see the
following ad on Barnstormers.com.;
AIRCRAFT PLANS & BOOKS . MUST SELL . Airbike, Fly Baby, Taylorcraft,
Pietenpol, Playboy, Smith Miniplane plans. See my inventory page. .
Contact Gary E. Kleiner - located Eugene, OR USA . Telephone:
303-241-7074 . Posted March 29, 2007 . Display Inventory Page . Show all
Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This Ad to a Friend . Email
Advertiser . Report This Ad
I was a bit apprehensive, but after googling him and talking to Gary,
I felt a bit more comfortable sending him a money order for $120. He
seemed like a harmless old timer. Basically, what I got for $120 was a
roll of worthless copies of Pietenpol and GN-1 plans, and some feeble
explanation of acid paper. The plan numbers were removed. What this man
is doing is terrible. As of now he has refused to reimburse me. He has a
cell phone out of Colorado, I mailed the check to Eugene OR, and the
copies were shipped from Riverside CA. Seems shady. I am a bit upset
Gary.
Buyer Be Ware
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware |
A lot of the old plans from the 30's to the 50's were just 10-15 sheets
of crude drawings and no instruction/construction detailed manual. Paul
P's Pixie plans are just a few pages of drawings. Don't think any of
these actually cost $125 but who knows what they're worth today.
Recently a unused serial numbered set of plans went up on ebay for
Rutan's Longeze and they fetched $1500 bidding war, Burt's too big into
other projects to support the homebuilt stuff anymore, but it's a heck
of a set of complete plans and drawings, if you got the old newsletter
updates. If you want good detailed drawing and instruction manual you
gotta pay $500 for a Cozy etc. I paid $350 for a set of plans for
Osprey couple years ago that were riddled with errors, designer still
selling plans that he knows have errors and has not updated plans since
early 70's. As far as plans go, it's hard to find them that you can
actually build the plane from start to finish without errors and
corrections, you gotta have lots and lots of help from local EAA guys or
tech advisors. I'd recommend finding someone in EAA somewhere near you
who's actually built a Piete like plane and go over them with him, find
out what else you need to know before tossing together any parts, even
if the plans were detailed.
Gordon
N-1033B SuperPiete (whatta great flying fun plane, Bernard would be
proud of the mods)
----- Original Message -----
From: walt evans
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware
Ryan,
Why do you say they are worthless? Are they complete?
Believe me,,,the Pietenpol plans don't look like much when you get
them. Only about 8 pages of hand drawings. but there all there.
maybe you're jumping the gun
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Michalkiewicz
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rip Off, Beware
Friends, let first say it is not easy admitting to being taken
advantage of. Wanting to build a GN-1, I was excited to see the
following ad on Barnstormers.com.;
AIRCRAFT PLANS & BOOKS . MUST SELL . Airbike, Fly Baby, Taylorcraft,
Pietenpol, Playboy, Smith Miniplane plans. See my inventory page. .
Contact Gary E. Kleiner - located Eugene, OR USA . Telephone:
303-241-7074 . Posted March 29, 2007 . Display Inventory Page . Show all
Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This Ad to a Friend . Email
Advertiser . Report This Ad
I was a bit apprehensive, but after googling him and talking to
Gary, I felt a bit more comfortable sending him a money order for $120.
He seemed like a harmless old timer. Basically, what I got for $120 was
a roll of worthless copies of Pietenpol and GN-1 plans, and some feeble
explanation of acid paper. The plan numbers were removed. What this man
is doing is terrible. As of now he has refused to reimburse me. He has a
cell phone out of Colorado, I mailed the check to Eugene OR, and the
copies were shipped from Riverside CA. Seems shady. I am a bit upset
Gary.
Buyer Be Ware
Ryan
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