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1. 12:33 AM - Re: Hem fir (Clif Dawson)
2. 09:33 AM - Re: Hem fir (Gordon Bowen)
3. 01:03 PM - Re: While You're Making Flying Weather Plans (Rcaprd@aol.com)
4. 01:39 PM - Wire Wheel kits and old cars (Rcaprd@aol.com)
5. 03:53 PM - Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars (Isablcorky@aol.com)
6. 06:13 PM - Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars (Dick Navratil)
7. 09:21 PM - Blaine Aviation Weekend (Lyle Peterson)
8. 10:08 PM - Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars (Graham Hansen)
9. 10:50 PM - Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars (Clif Dawson)
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What it means is that in any given pile of material there will be some
pieces that are Hemlock and some each of a few of the firs. In the firs
used some are weaker than Spruce and some a little stronger. It will
be difficult to tell which is which with a lot of it. I've encountered
it here
and gone through a few piles. None of it met my personal criteria.
Framing material is fine for framing a house but is never graded to
meet the needs we have. Knots, for instance, are quite acceptable
in framing. As are many other defects. So choose carefully. Do you
want one spar to be Pacific Silver at 6200 lb/in=C2=B2 and another of
California Red at 7200 or Hemlock at 6800? Spruce in this same
chart is 6700 lb/in=C2=B2 as a reference.
Clif
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From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hem fir
Hem-fir is the name given to a combination of hemlocks or firs
that share similar characteristics. These include western hemlock and
the true firs (noble, California red, grand, pacific silver and white
fir)=94species primarily found commercially in the Northwest
states and British Columbia.
Hem-fir design values are nearly as strong as Douglas fir,
resulting in an economical and excellent structural product. High
ratios for strength and stiffness make it a good choice for framing, and
the color of its wood is among the lightest of the western softwoods.
Hem-fir is a species with excellent preservative treatment
characteristics, which makes it an economical option to naturally
durable species like western cedars and redwoods.
Hem-fir products are available in structural, appearance and
remanufacturing grades.
Weyerhaeuser > Softwood Lumber > Softwood Lumber Species >
Hem-Fir
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What I don't understand about all this debate re various woods is, WHY!
The FAA's or EAA's Acceptable methods and materials booklets lets you
know what's what about wood for aeroplanes. Your choice, but when you
get right down to it, the cost of the wood is the absolute least of your
cost in building a homebuilt. Why sweat it, get some sika spruce and
start building or you'll never get flying. You'll make lots of
mistakes, waste maybe 1/2 of your wood, but's still the least cost way
of getting airborne.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Clif Dawson
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hem fir
What it means is that in any given pile of material there will be some
pieces that are Hemlock and some each of a few of the firs. In the
firs
used some are weaker than Spruce and some a little stronger. It will
be difficult to tell which is which with a lot of it. I've encountered
it here
and gone through a few piles. None of it met my personal criteria.
Framing material is fine for framing a house but is never graded to
meet the needs we have. Knots, for instance, are quite acceptable
in framing. As are many other defects. So choose carefully. Do you
want one spar to be Pacific Silver at 6200 lb/in=C2=B2 and another of
California Red at 7200 or Hemlock at 6800? Spruce in this same
chart is 6700 lb/in=C2=B2 as a reference.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: AMsafetyC@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hem fir
Hem-fir is the name given to a combination of hemlocks or firs
that share similar characteristics. These include western hemlock and
the true firs (noble, California red, grand, pacific silver and white
fir)=94species primarily found commercially in the Northwest
states and British Columbia.
Hem-fir design values are nearly as strong as Douglas fir,
resulting in an economical and excellent structural product. High
ratios for strength and stiffness make it a good choice for framing, and
the color of its wood is among the lightest of the western softwoods.
Hem-fir is a species with excellent preservative treatment
characteristics, which makes it an economical option to naturally
durable species like western cedars and redwoods.
Hem-fir products are available in structural, appearance and
remanufacturing grades.
Weyerhaeuser > Softwood Lumber > Softwood Lumber Species >
Hem-Fir
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| Subject: | Re: While You're Making Flying Weather Plans |
In a message dated 5/4/2007 9:29:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
tstinemetze@cox.net writes:
When Pigs Fly nationally rated BBQ contest and Fly in. This year the event
will be on August 24-25
Hey Tom,
I just put it down on my calender . See ya there (if not sooner).
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Wire Wheel kits and old cars |
In a message dated 5/5/2007 1:11:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca writes:
I've had two cars with wire wheels, a TR-2/3
Hey Clif,
I had a TR3 when I was 17 - 19 yrs old. Man, was that a fun car to drive. I
always had 2 or 3 passengers with me, in case we had to push the car
somewhere. Never had to open the door...just hop over and into the seat. Plenty
of
power, too. That was the first engine I rebuilt from start to finish. I won
$100 dollars in a twisting road race with an Opel Cadet...blew 'im away. I was
always racing somebody. That was the only car I know of, that in a hard
corner, the front wheels would slide before the back ones...ya just had to get
used to that. I put close to 10,000 miles on it while I had it. It did have
some problems, though. Things kept falling off of it...Like one time the grill
fell out, and I ran over it, another time one of the front brake pads fell
off, and I didn't have brakes, another time the slave cylinder stopped working
so I had to shut the engine off at any stop lights, and use the starter button
go get going then shift without the clutch, another time the generator quit
working (at night of course) and I had to drive home with no headlights because
when I turned the headlight on (one of them worked) the engine stopped
running, but sometimes if I pounded on the dashboard the generator would start
working again. Then, of course, the windshield wipers never did work, so I carried
a long wiper arm and blade off of a big chevy, and just used my left hand out
over the windshield to wipe the windscreen off. This was a Lucas Electrical
System. The steering box was kinda stiff, so I had to turn the steering wheel
back to center. Never did have to worry about getting wet when it rained,
because the ol' rag top couldn't keep much rain off of the occupants anyway (no
side curtains). There was no heater core, so sometimes I had to scrape the
windshield inside and out. I discovered it had a POSITIVE ground, after I put
an Eight Track Tape Player in it, and it gobbled up three of my favorite tapes,
before I realized it was playing them backwards, and had to pull about 100
feet of tape out of the player each time.
Ah, yesss...that sure was a Fun car to drive !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars |
Chuck,
Next week I'll tell you the story about how my daughter came home from La
Tech one week end and told me about the bargain she found in a drainage ditch
for $100. Yep, an MG Midget w/ wire wheels.
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars |
Don't you wish you still had the TR-3? I had one also in the early
70's, paid $600 for it. Have you seen the prices now for them. Fun car
to drive but I never knew when something like the generator would just
fall out. Once the oil plug came out of the pan, talk about smokin.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rcaprd@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wire Wheel kits and old cars
In a message dated 5/5/2007 1:11:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca writes:
I've had two cars with wire wheels, a TR-2/3
Hey Clif,
I had a TR3 when I was 17 - 19 yrs old. Man, was that a fun car to
drive. I always had 2 or 3 passengers with me, in case we had to push
the car somewhere. Never had to open the door...just hop over and into
the seat. Plenty of power, too. That was the first engine I rebuilt
from start to finish. I won $100 dollars in a twisting road race with
an Opel Cadet...blew 'im away. I was always racing somebody. That was
the only car I know of, that in a hard corner, the front wheels would
slide before the back ones...ya just had to get used to that. I put
close to 10,000 miles on it while I had it. It did have some problems,
though. Things kept falling off of it...Like one time the grill fell
out, and I ran over it, another time one of the front brake pads fell
off, and I didn't have brakes, another time the slave cylinder stopped
working so I had to shut the engine off at any stop lights, and use the
starter button go get going then shift without the clutch, another time
the generator quit working (at night of course) and I had to drive home
with no headlights because when I turned the headlight on (one of them
worked) the engine stopped running, but sometimes if I pounded on the
dashboard the generator would start working again. Then, of course, the
windshield wipers never did work, so I carried a long wiper arm and
blade off of a big chevy, and just used my left hand out over the
windshield to wipe the windscreen off. This was a Lucas Electrical
System. The steering box was kinda stiff, so I had to turn the steering
wheel back to center. Never did have to worry about getting wet when it
rained, because the ol' rag top couldn't keep much rain off of the
occupants anyway (no side curtains). There was no heater core, so
sometimes I had to scrape the windshield inside and out. I discovered
it had a POSITIVE ground, after I put an Eight Track Tape Player in it,
and it gobbled up three of my favorite tapes, before I realized it was
playing them backwards, and had to pull about 100 feet of tape out of
the player each time.
Ah, yesss...that sure was a Fun car to drive !!
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Blaine Aviation Weekend |
This is coming very soon but it should be a great fly-in. EAA Chapter
237
is having a fly-in pancake breakfast and lunch at Anoka County Airport
in
Blaine, MN on May 19th and 20th
Chapter 237's Famous Pancake Breakfast with sausage and beverage runs
from
7a.m. to noon and lunch of hamburgers, hot dogs and chili runs until
4p.m.
There are two really great aviation museums on the airport. Golden
Wings
Museum has a collection of beautifully restored vintage airplanes that
includes five trimotors. American Wings Air Museum has a collection of
warbirds from WWII to Dessert Storm. They also have a Wright Flyer
replica,
an original 1911 Steco biplane plus many other exhibits.
There was a Swift, an Ercoupe, a Luscombe T8-F plus a lot of other
vintage
airplanes, warbirds and the usual later model airplanes at last year's
event.
There will be a Hangar Dance Saturday evening with the Sights and Sounds
of
Dave Andrews Big Band. This has been a lot of fun for everyone that
attended in past years.
More can be found at www.eaachapter237.org
Thank you,
Lyle Peterson
President, EAA Chapter 237
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars |
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
Recent postings have brought back lots of memories.
I had a 1954 Austin Healey 100-4 (4 cylinder engine) for about two
years. It had wire wheels and I did have a problem with loose and
breaking spokes on one wheel only. Took the wheel to a wizard who did
motorcycle wheels and he fixed it at a reasonable cost. The A-H was a
beautiful car and great fun to drive, but it was failure-prone. Parts
would break without warning (door latches, clutch linkage rod, etc.). I
think they were made of inferior metal because it was almost impossible
to make a welded repair, so I wound up making new parts by hand.
The Healey had very little ground clearance and it seemed I was always
"dragging bottom" and finally sold it.
After the Healey I got a 1956 Triumph TR3 which had more clearance, but
wasn't as classy. It, too, was fun to drive and we did some fairly long
trips with it. However, it was plagued with engine problems and we had
the engine overhauled twice at considerable expense. It had disc type
wheels which never gave a problem, but lacked the charm of the wire
wheels. My wife accidentally hit some rocks (impossible to avoid) left
across the road (Alaska Highway) and knocked the clutch slave cylinder
off the aluminum bell housing. We managed to re-attach it and drove it
for several months before making a permanent repair. We had that car for
about three years and then sold it.
Many years later, I acquired three (3) derelict TR3's and did a
ground-up restoration resulting in one nice little car. After years of
driving cars with power steering, I wasn't prepared for the direct,
somewhat heavy, TR3 steering and finally figured out why the steering
wheel was so large in diameter! It was an impressive performer, though,
and easily left cars with emmission controls in the dust. Essentially,
it was a high speed tractor; in fact the basic engine, I was told, was
used in certain farm tractors. I drove it, in the summer only, for about
three years and came to the conclusion that it was a "triumph", alright.
A triumph of nostalgia over common sense, and so I sold it. (I wonder
where it is today....)
Graham Hansen Pietenpol CF-AUN
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
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| Subject: | Re: Wire Wheel kits and old cars |
Boy! I never had anything like that! Mine ran like a trooper. Maybe it
was because
it was the transition car between the two and the three. Also the
steering was
great on mine. I could drift it like there was no tomorrow. The Healey
was the
one to break loose on the front. I hated that! It just felt wrong. Only
two things
marred our comanionship. The battery went bad and one day. I had to
start the
thing with the crank in order to get to work. Then the head gasket blew.
It
required two gasket sets to repair it as that engine was half the old
two and
half the new three! ( 1956 I think) It was still going strong when I had
to sell it.
By the way,you know that the entire windshield assembly was removable
for
racing by backing off two large screws, right?
I wonder if that's the appeal of the Piet? There's a lot of
similarities. Both
built like a brick you-know-what, both require attention to drive/fly,
same fun-
factor.
After all this time I finally acquired a 3" micrometer and checked my
best
looking Corvair crank. The bearings are right in the middle of specs for
a
brand new one! Smooth too. That's made me a happy camper. :-)
Clif
I've had two cars with wire wheels, a TR-2/3
Hey Clif,
I had a TR3 when I was 17 - 19 yrs old. Man, was that a fun car to
drive. I always had 2 or 3 passengers with me, in case we had to push
the car somewhere. Never had to open the door...just hop over and into
the seat. Plenty of power, too. That was the first engine I rebuilt
from start to finish. I won $100 dollars in a twisting road race with
an Opel Cadet...blew 'im away. I was always racing somebody. That was
the only car I know of, that in a hard corner, the front wheels would
slide before the back ones
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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