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1. 05:10 AM - Nicropress connections (John Egan)
2. 07:50 AM - Re: Nicropress connections ()
3. 08:35 AM - Re: Nicropress connections (John Egan)
4. 08:54 AM - Re: Nicropress connections ()
5. 09:05 AM - nicopress connections (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 11:41 AM - Re: Nicropress connections (hvandervoo@aol.com)
7. 07:49 PM - Re: Re: Felix back flying (Rick Holland)
8. 07:59 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (shad bell)
9. 08:15 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (Tim Willis)
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Subject: | Nicropress connections |
Hello all,
I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make
sure I understand this completly.
Regarding nicropress connections -
1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows?
A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking
crimps.
2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable
and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
John
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Subject: | Nicropress connections |
I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps for
everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it
could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine
shop.
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Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
Hello all,
I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions
to make sure I understand this completly.
Regarding nicropress connections -
1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book
shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three
nice looking crimps.
2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel
cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
John
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Subject: | Nicropress connections |
Thanks Harvey. I also found some archived information under "hardware" that explains
to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper sleeves with
galvanized cable.
I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to use aluminum.
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I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps
for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it could
be aluminum.Dont use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine shop.
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Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
Hello all,
I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make
sure I understand this completly.
Regarding nicropress connections -
1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows?
A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking
crimps.
2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable
and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
John
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Subject: | Nicropress connections |
Come to think of it ,I used zinc coated sleeves as well. I don't believe
I ever saw the copper sleeves.I don't think there is such a thing as
stainless steel sleeves.They would be terribly hard to crimp I would
imagine.I was on drugs when I said that earlier.Sorry about that.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
Sent: May 18, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
Thanks Harvey. I also found some archived information under "hardware"
that explains to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper
sleeves with galvanized cable.
I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to
use aluminum.
harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for
crimps for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels
light it could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at
a marine shop.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Egan
Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
Hello all,
I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some
questions to make sure I understand this completly.
Regarding nicropress connections -
1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony
Bengilis book shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little
short to get three nice looking crimps.
2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless
steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized
cable?
Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
John
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Subject: | nicopress connections |
>From the Wicks catalog (same as Aircraft Spruce)-
"Use zinc and tin plated copper with stainless cable, copper with galvanized
cable"
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=530/index.html
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | Re: Nicropress connections |
John
3/32 two crimps
1/8 and larger three crimps
Hans
Controlling Your Aircraft
Sport Aviation - 5/98
By Ron Alexander
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Make the necessary compressions of the sleeve as shown in Figure 6. Cables larger
than 3/32inch diameter must have 3 compressions done in the sequence presented.
The first compression is made in the center followed by a compression next
to the sleeve. ------
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Subject: | Re: Felix back flying |
Nice work Skip, hope your house is also coming along well. Looking forward
to seeing you, your wife and Felix at Broadhead. By the way, where did the
name Felix come from? Wasn't he a cat or something?
Rick
On 5/13/07, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
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>
> Skip,
> Great news! I was just wondering a few days ago how you made out with
> Felix. I hope you enjoy it! I really hope to see you at Brodhead with
> it. I plan to fly mine up.
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112671#112671
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Subject: | Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware |
Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and
use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable. This is to
prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion. There is a note
in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss. I looked
it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with
a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering
this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves
on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by an
I.A. every year. Big deal?? I don't know, but better safe than sorry.
Shad
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Subject: | Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware |
I don't doubt what many of you have said is the right spec., but I sure wonder
about the spec. itself-- the part about copper sleeves with the galvanized cable.
Won't galvanic action take place between the zinc in the galvanized coating
and the copper sleeve?
Nickel plate on S.S. should be fine, as stated, for there is nickel in stainless,
and stainless is also far more chemically inactive than zinc, too.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 18, 2007 8:58 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware
>
>Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and
use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable. This is
to prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion. There is a
note in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss. I looked
it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with
a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering
this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves
on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by
an I.A. every year. Big deal?? I don't know, but better safe than sorry.
>
> Shad
>
>
>
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