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     5. 09:05 AM - nicopress connections (Oscar Zuniga)
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     7. 07:49 PM - Re: Re: Felix back flying (Rick Holland)
     8. 07:59 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (shad bell)
     9. 08:15 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (Tim Willis)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Nicropress connections | 
      
      Hello all,
         
        I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make
      sure I understand this completly.
         
        Regarding nicropress connections - 
        1.  Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows?
      A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking
      crimps.
        2.  What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable
      and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
         
        Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
         
        John
         
      
      
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      I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps for
      everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it
      could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine
      shop.
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
      Egan
      Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
      
      
      Hello all,
      
      
      I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions
      to make sure I understand this completly.
      
      
      Regarding nicropress connections - 
      
      1.  Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book
      shows?  A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three
      nice looking crimps.
      
      2.  What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel
      cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
      
      
      Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
      
      
      John
      
      
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      Thanks Harvey.  I also found some archived information under "hardware" that explains
      to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper sleeves with
      galvanized cable.
         
        I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to use aluminum.
      
      harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
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                I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps
      for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it could
      be aluminum.Dont use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine shop.
         
            
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        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan
      Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
      
         
          Hello all,
      
           
      
          I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make
      sure I understand this completly.
      
           
      
          Regarding nicropress connections - 
      
          1.  Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows?
      A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking
      crimps.
      
          2.  What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable
      and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable?
      
           
      
          Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
      
           
      
          John
      
           
      
          
          
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      Come to think of it ,I used zinc coated sleeves as well. I don't believe
      I ever saw the copper sleeves.I don't think there is such a thing as
      stainless steel sleeves.They would be terribly hard to crimp I would
      imagine.I was on drugs when I said that earlier.Sorry about that.
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
      Egan
      Sent: May 18, 2007 11:35 AM
      Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
      
      
      Thanks Harvey.  I also found some archived information under "hardware"
      that explains to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper
      sleeves with galvanized cable.
      
      
      I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to
      use aluminum.
      
      harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote:
      
      	I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for
      crimps for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels
      light it could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at
      a marine shop.
      
      	 
      
      
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      	From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
      Egan
      	Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM
      	To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      	Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections
      
      	 
      
      	Hello all,
      
      	 
      
      	I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some
      questions to make sure I understand this completly.
      
      	 
      
      	Regarding nicropress connections - 
      
      	1.  Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony
      Bengilis book shows?  A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little
      short to get three nice looking crimps.
      
      	2.  What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless
      steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized
      cable?
      
      	 
      
      	Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated.
      
      	 
      
      	John
      
      	 
      
      	  
      
      
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| Subject:  | nicopress connections | 
      
      
      >From the Wicks catalog (same as Aircraft Spruce)-
      
      "Use zinc and tin plated copper with stainless cable, copper with galvanized 
      cable"
      
      http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=530/index.html
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      San Antonio, TX
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| Subject:  | Re: Nicropress connections | 
      
       John
      
       3/32 two crimps
      
      1/8 and larger three crimps
      
      Hans
      
      Controlling Your Aircraft
      Sport Aviation - 5/98
      By Ron Alexander
      
      ----
      Make the necessary compressions of the sleeve as shown in Figure 6. Cables larger
      than 3/32inch diameter must have 3 compressions done in the sequence presented.
      The first compression is made in the center followed by a compression next
      to the sleeve. ------
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Felix back flying | 
      
      Nice work Skip, hope your house is also coming along well. Looking forward
      to seeing you, your wife and Felix at Broadhead. By the way, where did the
      name Felix come from? Wasn't he a cat or something?
      
      Rick
      
      On 5/13/07, Don Emch <EmchAir@aol.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Skip,
      >    Great news!  I was just wondering a few days ago how you made out with
      > Felix. I hope you enjoy it!  I really hope to see you at Brodhead with
      > it.  I plan to fly mine up.
      >
      > Don Emch
      > NX899DE
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112671#112671
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      ObjectAge Ltd.
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware | 
      
      Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and
      use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable.  This is to
      prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion.  There is a note
      in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss.  I looked
      it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with
      a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering
      this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves
      on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by an
      I.A. every year.  Big deal??  I don't know, but better safe than sorry.
         
        Shad
         
      
             
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| Subject:  | Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware | 
      
      
      I don't doubt what many of you have said is the right spec., but I sure wonder
      about the spec. itself-- the part about copper sleeves with the galvanized cable.
      Won't galvanic action take place between the zinc in the galvanized coating
      and the copper sleeve?
      
      Nickel plate on S.S. should be fine, as stated, for there is nickel in stainless,
      and stainless is also far more chemically inactive than zinc, too.
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
      >Sent: May 18, 2007 8:58 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware
      >
      >Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and
      use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable.  This is
      to prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion.  There is a
      note in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss.  I looked
      it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with
      a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering
      this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves
      on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by
      an I.A. every year.  Big deal??  I don't know, but better safe than sorry.
      >   
      >  Shad
      >   
      >
      >       
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