---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/18/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:10 AM - Nicropress connections (John Egan) 2. 07:50 AM - Re: Nicropress connections () 3. 08:35 AM - Re: Nicropress connections (John Egan) 4. 08:54 AM - Re: Nicropress connections () 5. 09:05 AM - nicopress connections (Oscar Zuniga) 6. 11:41 AM - Re: Nicropress connections (hvandervoo@aol.com) 7. 07:49 PM - Re: Re: Felix back flying (Rick Holland) 8. 07:59 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (shad bell) 9. 08:15 PM - Re: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware (Tim Willis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:33 AM PST US From: John Egan Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Hello all, I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make sure I understand this completly. Regarding nicropress connections - 1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking crimps. 2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable? Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated. John --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:09 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections From: I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine shop. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Hello all, I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make sure I understand this completly. Regarding nicropress connections - 1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking crimps. 2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable? Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated. John ________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:37 AM PST US From: John Egan Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Thanks Harvey. I also found some archived information under "hardware" that explains to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper sleeves with galvanized cable. I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to use aluminum. harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it could be aluminum.Dont use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine shop. --------------------------------- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Hello all, I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make sure I understand this completly. Regarding nicropress connections - 1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking crimps. 2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable? Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated. John --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List http://forums.matronics.com --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:43 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections From: Come to think of it ,I used zinc coated sleeves as well. I don't believe I ever saw the copper sleeves.I don't think there is such a thing as stainless steel sleeves.They would be terribly hard to crimp I would imagine.I was on drugs when I said that earlier.Sorry about that. Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Sent: May 18, 2007 11:35 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Thanks Harvey. I also found some archived information under "hardware" that explains to use zinc coated sleeves with stainless cable and copper sleeves with galvanized cable. I'll crimp three times on all these sleeves, and I'll make sure not to use aluminum. harvey.rule@bell.ca wrote: I used three crimps everytime and I used stainless steel for crimps for everything.Be careful when you pick the crimp up if it feels light it could be aluminum.Don't use aluminum ever.I bought all mine at a marine shop. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Egan Sent: May 18, 2007 8:10 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections Hello all, I'm starting to make control cable connections and have some questions to make sure I understand this completly. Regarding nicropress connections - 1. Do we always crimp the sleeves three times as the Tony Bengilis book shows? A sleeve for 3/32" cable seems to be a little short to get three nice looking crimps. 2. What kind of sleeve (material) should be used with stainless steel cable and what kind of sleeve should be used with galvanized cable? Thank you all, and any other related tips are appreciated. John ________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. ________________________________ size=1 width="100%" align=center> Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:31 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: nicopress connections >From the Wicks catalog (same as Aircraft Spruce)- "Use zinc and tin plated copper with stainless cable, copper with galvanized cable" http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=530/index.html Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:41:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections From: hvandervoo@aol.com John 3/32 two crimps 1/8 and larger three crimps Hans Controlling Your Aircraft Sport Aviation - 5/98 By Ron Alexander ---- Make the necessary compressions of the sleeve as shown in Figure 6. Cables larger than 3/32inch diameter must have 3 compressions done in the sequence presented. The first compression is made in the center followed by a compression next to the sleeve. ------ ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:00 PM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Felix back flying Nice work Skip, hope your house is also coming along well. Looking forward to seeing you, your wife and Felix at Broadhead. By the way, where did the name Felix come from? Wasn't he a cat or something? Rick On 5/13/07, Don Emch wrote: > > > Skip, > Great news! I was just wondering a few days ago how you made out with > Felix. I hope you enjoy it! I really hope to see you at Brodhead with > it. I plan to fly mine up. > > Don Emch > NX899DE > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112671#112671 > > -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:11 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable. This is to prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion. There is a note in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss. I looked it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by an I.A. every year. Big deal?? I don't know, but better safe than sorry. Shad --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:08 PM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware I don't doubt what many of you have said is the right spec., but I sure wonder about the spec. itself-- the part about copper sleeves with the galvanized cable. Won't galvanic action take place between the zinc in the galvanized coating and the copper sleeve? Nickel plate on S.S. should be fine, as stated, for there is nickel in stainless, and stainless is also far more chemically inactive than zinc, too. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: shad bell >Sent: May 18, 2007 8:58 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Nicropress connections, and propper hardware > >Remember to use plain copper sleeves (copper colored) with galvanized cable, and use nickkle plated (silver colored) sleeves with stainless cable. This is to prevent failure due to galvanic (dis-simmilar metal) corrsion. There is a note in the wicks catalog about this I believe, but is easy to miss. I looked it up in AC43-13 and it is VERY easy to miss in there, It's just an astrix with a small foot note. I think this is a widely unknown fact, as after discovering this, I have seen a dozzen certified aircraft with the "wrong" nicopress sleeves on there control cables, and these aircraft are suposedly inspected by an I.A. every year. Big deal?? I don't know, but better safe than sorry. > > Shad > > > >--------------------------------- >Luggage? GPS? Comic books? >Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! 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