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1. 05:51 AM - Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer (Scott Schreiber)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer (Phillips, Jack)
3. 06:26 AM - strut wall thickness (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
4. 06:35 AM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned] (Rob Hart)
5. 07:09 AM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer (Roman Bukolt)
6. 10:30 AM - Lift Struts (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 12:05 PM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned] (Scott Schreiber)
8. 12:08 PM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned] ()
9. 12:10 PM - Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer (Scott Schreiber)
10. 06:33 PM - Piet on ebay (Skip Gadd)
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| Subject: | Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing up
the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have found
not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058 in
the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What did
you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have used
doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying member
in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip steamer. I
have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells the teapot
for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on their own. The
capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready in 15 min. It
can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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| Subject: | Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer
Hi Scott,
I wish I had just built up my struts from new streamline tubing. I used
J-3 Lift struts and had to do quite a bit of work to get them ready. I
would use the .049" wall - that is plenty. The J-3 struts are only
.035" wall as I recall, and they are 1018 steel, not 4130.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Schreiber
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge
questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing up
the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have found
not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058 in
the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What did
you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have used
doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying member
in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip steamer. I
have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells the teapot
for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on their own. The
capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready in 15 min. It
can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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| Subject: | strut wall thickness |
Scott,
I second Jack's observations and here is a sketch of the streamline
tubing that I used. I ordered new from Dillsburg Aero in PA and
ordered
threaded barrel inserts (that I welded in each bottom end) for all four
strut ends. I had been given some older J-3 strut fork ends and had
them magnafluxed prior to
using them.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Hi Scott
Great picture of your cap strip steamer.
One off topic question: How on Earth do you keep your gas stove that
clean?? Jeez, if my wife saw the condition of yours I'd have serious
questions to answer given that my domestic chores include said stove
cleaning!
Do not archive.
Rob
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge
questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing up
the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have found
not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058 in
the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What did
you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have used
doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying member
in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip steamer. I
have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells the teapot
for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on their own. The
capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready in 15 min. It
can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer
Wing Struts SAE1020 1.78 x 1.06 x .049 $5.99/ft. Wag Aero
1-800-558-6868 Lyons, Wi.
Bill Rewey says they're plenty strong enough and he should know.
Roman Bukolt NX20795
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From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing
edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing
up the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have
found not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058
in the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What
did you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have used
doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying member
in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip steamer.
I have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells the teapot
for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on their own. The
capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready in 15 min. It
can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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Pieters, Here I go again butting in on your conversations but wanted to add
a few thoughts on the lift struts.
Option 1
Two 1/4 in pieces of spruce with a piece of 1/4 in marine or exterior
plywood sandwiched in between. I saw this on a Piet from Ohio at Brodhead and
was
impressed. He used the same materials for the cabanes.
Option 2
Round tubing of appropriate strength streamlined with balsa and wrapped with
fabric. Ala Sprirt of St Louis.
Corky in nice cool Louisiana
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| Subject: | Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Easy, the kitchen is for display purposes only. We use the microwave and
phone for our actual meals.
-Scott
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From: Rob Hart
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and
trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Hi Scott
Great picture of your cap strip steamer.
One off topic question: How on Earth do you keep your gas stove that
clean?? Jeez, if my wife saw the condition of yours I'd have serious
questions to answer given that my domestic chores include said stove
cleaning!
Do not archive.
Rob
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Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 8:48 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing
edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing
up the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have
found not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058
in the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What
did you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have used
doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying member
in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip steamer.
I have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells the teapot
for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on their own. The
capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready in 15 min. It
can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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| Subject: | Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Dam,I've been doin it all wrong all these years!
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Schreiber
Sent: May 22, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing
edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Easy, the kitchen is for display purposes only. We use the microwave and
phone for our actual meals.
-Scott
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From: Rob Hart <mailto:rob_hart@aiondiagnostics.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and
trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
Hi Scott
Great picture of your cap strip steamer.
One off topic question: How on Earth do you keep your gas stove
that clean?? Jeez, if my wife saw the condition of yours I'd have
serious questions to answer given that my domestic chores include said
stove cleaning!
Do not archive.
Rob
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Schreiber
Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2007 8:48 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and
trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer[Scanned]
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and
fabbing up the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I
have found not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and
.058 in the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty.
What did you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have
used doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying
member in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip
steamer. I have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells
the teapot for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on
their own. The capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready
in 15 min. It can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing edge questions, |
and a $10 cap strip steamer
While the price is certainly an eye opener I haven't heard this
particular one brought up before. I will have to do some reading on that
one this evening.
Any thoughts on the LE and TE materials?
-Scott
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From: Roman Bukolt
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and
trailing edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer
Wing Struts SAE1020 1.78 x 1.06 x .049 $5.99/ft. Wag Aero
1-800-558-6868 Lyons, Wi.
Bill Rewey says they're plenty strong enough and he should know.
Roman Bukolt NX20795
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schreiber
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Strut wall thickness, leading and trailing
edge questions, and a $10 cap strip steamer
I am pretty much settled on ordering the streamline 4130 and fabbing
up the lift struts. After hours of web and archive searching I have
found not one reference to the wall thickness. It comes in .049 and .058
in the correct size. The .058 comes at a weight and cost penalty. What
did you choose?
Second question, trailing and leading edge. I see that many have
used doug fir banister and flooring. Since this isn't a load carying
member in the way that the spars are do the normal grading and selection
processes apply here? I can't imagine scrutinizing a stair railing the
way you would sitka spruce for a spar or longeron. Is it as simple as
hitting Lowes or home depot and picking the right size?
And finally a chance to contribute, here is my $10 cap strip
steamer. I have used it for years with model airplanes. Walmart sells
the teapot for $5 and the plumbing pipe and adapter were about $5 on
their own. The capstrip for the rib top slips in just fine and is ready
in 15 min. It can be used on a hot plate or stove top.
-Scott
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Check out this Piet on ebay, looks like the only suspension is tires.
Skip
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