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1. 05:10 AM - axle bolt (John Egan)
2. 07:43 AM - Re: Piet on ebay (Skip Gadd)
3. 09:38 AM - Re: axle bolt (Phillips, Jack)
4. 02:22 PM - Re: Piet on ebay ()
5. 06:27 PM - Re: axle bolt (Dick Navratil)
6. 06:56 PM - Insurance (Ryan Michalkiewicz)
7. 07:08 PM - Re: Insurance (Dick Navratil)
8. 07:35 PM - Re: Insurance (Ben Charvet)
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Hello group,
I'd like to get some feedback on what the bolt size and type is to hold the spoked
wheels onto the straight axle? There seems to be two preferred methods
to retain the wheels:
1. Threaded Castle Nut
2. A single bolt through a retaining collar
Regarding the retaining collar and bolt method, is a 1/4 bolt sufficient in size
and is it a typical "AN-" bolt?
I do not find this subject in the archives yet, and I am not sure on the bolt
size by looking at all the helpful photograghs that people share.
Thanks all,
John
in Wisconsin
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Maybe I should send the link!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-PIETENPOL-AIRCAMPER_W0QQitemZ160118785101QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63679QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
----- Original Message -----
From: Skip Gadd
Sent: 5/22/2007 9:38:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet on ebay
Check out this Piet on ebay, looks like the only suspension is tires.
Skip
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Hi John,
As with most questions on the best way to do things, I would say "It
depends."
If you are just using a simple bushing for your wheel bearings, a bolted
collar is fine. An AN4 bolt should be more than adequate to resist any
side loads (the Pietenpol has a built-in mechanism to prevent side loads
from getting too great on the landing gear. It is called the "Ground
Loop").
If you are using tapered roller bearings (I used a set of bearings from
some old Goodyear wheels I found lying around the hangar) you need to be
able to pre-load the bearings with some axial force. You won't be able
to do that with a bolted collar and will need a threaded castle nut with
a cotter pin to hold the nut in place. This then requires that you
thread your axle, which is not the easiest process. On my first axle, I
used a die with a hand wrench to thread the axle and got the threads a
little crooked. When I rebuilt the axle, I had a machine shop turn the
threads on a lathe and that worked much better. The thread is
UNF-1-1/2-16.
Good luck!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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Egan
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: axle bolt
Hello group,
I'd like to get some feedback on what the bolt size and type is to hold
the spoked wheels onto the straight axle? There seems to be two
preferred methods to retain the wheels:
1=2E Threaded Castle Nut
2=2E A single bolt through a retaining collar
Regarding the retaining collar and bolt method, is a 1/4 bolt sufficient
in size and is it a typical "AN-" bolt?
I do not find this subject in the archives yet, and I am not sure on the
bolt size by looking at all the helpful photograghs that people share.
Thanks all,
John
in Wisconsin
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Skip, et al,
Does anyone have knowledge of this airplane or have an idea what caused the damage
to the left front cylinder?
Obviously, without logs, this engine is a core waiting for overhaul, but it would
be good to know some of its history.
I would also want to check out the fuselage very carefully at the landing gear
mounts. A rigid gear can transfer a lot of shock loads to the fuselage.
Mike Hardaway
---- Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Maybe I should send the link!
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-PIETENPOL-AIRCAMPER_W0QQitemZ160118785101QQihZ006QQcategoryZ63679QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Skip Gadd
> To: pietenpol-list
> Sent: 5/22/2007 9:38:19 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet on ebay
>
>
> Check out this Piet on ebay, looks like the only suspension is tires.
> Skip
>
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> skipgadd@earthlink.net
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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John
Either way would work fine. Drilling for an AN-4 would definetly be
faster and easier. If you know someone with a dye set for that size,
you would be able to adjust without adding too many washers. I happen
to have an 1 1/4" and 1 1 1/2" dye if you are close to St. Paul, Mn.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Egan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: axle bolt
Hello group,
I'd like to get some feedback on what the bolt size and type is to
hold the spoked wheels onto the straight axle? There seems to be two
preferred methods to retain the wheels:
1. Threaded Castle Nut
2. A single bolt through a retaining collar
Regarding the retaining collar and bolt method, is a 1/4 bolt
sufficient in size and is it a typical "AN-" bolt?
I do not find this subject in the archives yet, and I am not sure on
the bolt size by looking at all the helpful photograghs that people
share.
Thanks all,
John
in Wisconsin
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Does everyone carry insurance on their aircraft. Is it more expensive or more difficult
to obtain it having an auto engine than having a certified engine equipt
plane? Is it necessary?
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I have $1,000,000 liability and $9,000 hull for a total of $1,300 per
year.
dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Michalkiewicz
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:56 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Insurance
Does everyone carry insurance on their aircraft. Is it more expensive
or more difficult to obtain it having an auto engine than having a
certified engine equipt plane? Is it necessary?
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When I was buying insurance for my Baby Ace I asked about auto
conversions for the Piet.
Avemco was the cheapest for the Baby Ace (Continental A-75) and insured
me for just liability $1 mil for around $600/year. They take in to
consideration how many hours you have logged as a pilot and how many
tailwheel hours you have. I asked about my Piet project, as I was
planning to use a Corvair, but they wouldn't write that policy. The EAA
folks wouldn't insure me in anything because I only had around 100 hours
flight time and was still working on my tailwheel endorsement. They
wanted at least 125 hours and 25 hours of tailwheel time. If you call
around the companies will tell you what auto conversions they will
cover. For those of you out there building and not flying, the
insurance companies like to see recent hours flown, and a tailwheel
endorsement will be necessary. I've heard that William Wynn knows how
to get insurance on a Corvair, but I never checked that option out. I
really liked the idea of a Continental and shifted my focus.
Continental parts are definitely more expensive though!
Ben Charvet
Mims, Fl
Ryan Michalkiewicz wrote:
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