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1. 03:53 AM - Re: insurance ()
2. 05:04 AM - Re: insurance (Phillips, Jack)
3. 06:52 AM - Flip flop flap (Bill Church)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Flip flop flap (Robert Gow)
5. 07:28 AM - Filler strip question (Rick Holland)
6. 07:58 AM - Re: Flip flop flap ()
7. 08:25 AM - 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Bill Church)
8. 10:47 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (baileys)
9. 12:59 PM - Re: Flip flop flap (Bill Church)
10. 01:30 PM - Re: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Robert Gow)
11. 02:30 PM - insurance (glich7@juno.com)
12. 07:54 PM - Re: Visit to the USA (Dick Navratil)
13. 08:48 PM - Re: Visit to the USA (Mike Whaley)
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PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping
someone would ask,HAHAHA!
Do not archive
I'm sure it's obvious but what's the abbreviation PLPD mean? Is it
not for polite company or am I just slow?
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$1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young
Eagle rides in your Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Liability and Ground Hull Insurance - no flight hull.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Willis
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: insurance
--> <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
I understand reluctance to spend for insurance. However, when I
complete the Piet I will take out liability insurance as soon as
practicable. IMO, it's the very low probability of the disastrous
outcome for which we should be insured. I'll spend for liability
coverage, but not hull insurance. Losing the plane without hull
insurance would break my heart, but not my bank. (I'd have a hard time
convincing my wife that we should shell out for another plane, though.
Hang gliding, anyone?)
OTOH, a successful lawsuit can take all that I own, my heart, my soul,
and my wallet. "What's in your wallet?" is not just a credit card ad,
IMO. And I am too old to acquire again enough money on which to live
comfortably.
Tim in central TX
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dick Navratil <horzpool@goldengate.net>
>Sent: May 26, 2007 7:12 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance
>
>An important question in thinking about liability insurance is, how
much equity you have in your house. If you don't need to worry about
loosing much, they won't spent much coming after you. You hear about
stupid lawsuits all of the time. I choose to insure th plane and to
carry a blanket policy for any stupid thing I might do, anywhere. That
blanket policy is an extra $150 on the homeowners policy.
>Dick N.
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Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore...
I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months.
I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken
flip-flops I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone
to come along with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor.
What does your tag line mean?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bill C
--> <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
Tim in Bovey
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You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
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Flip flop flapDepends what's wrong with the flip flop. It could be the
resistor or the transistor or the capacitor.
Bob
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: May 29, 2007 9:52 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap
Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore.
I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months.
I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken flip-flops
I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone to come along
with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor.
What does your tag line mean?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bill C
--> <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
Tim in Bovey
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You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
==
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| Subject: | Filler strip question |
Concerning the filler strips shown on the plans that go around the outer
edges of the fuselage sides, what size strips work the best? and how far
back should they go? on the plans it looks like they stop at the rear seat.
Thanks
Rick
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Would that be a bootstrap,one shot or multiple flip flop?
Do not archive
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Church
Sent: May 29, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap
Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore...
I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months.
I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken
flip-flops I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone
to come along with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor.
What does your tag line mean?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Bill C
--> <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
Tim in Bovey
===
You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor!
===
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| Subject: | 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering |
Just got a reply from Jim Armstrong, confirming the date for the 18th
Annual Pietenpol Gathering in Brussels, Ontario.
It will be held Saturday, June 16th, the day before Father's Day, at the
Armstrong Aerodrome (as usual).
For those who are not familiar with the event, it's the Canadian
equivalent of Brodhead - nice and laid back, and friendly. They have a
bar-b-que, and Pietenpols, and you can set up a tent at the field and
stay overnight. What more could you want?
Brussels is a little village, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, out
in farm country (look it up on GoogleMaps using this link)
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=
1&ll=42.8
84015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr
The airfield is on the NorthEast side of the village
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=
1&t=h&ll
43.747351,-81.240807&spn=0.053323,0.107288&z=14
Bill C
<http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=
1&ll=42.
884015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr>
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| Subject: | Re: Visit to the USA |
Visit to the USASounds like a good plan Steve,
The Brodhead EAA chapter web sites
are http://www.eaa431.org/
and
http://www.eaachapter431.org/
The first one seems to be the most current.
Anyway I would suggest contacting them so they know when you will be
there and maybe even they will have someone available to show you
around.
Hope you enjoy the trip and win the race.
Another lurker.
Bob B.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Bryan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Hi everyone!
Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and
I've been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!).
In fact, there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair
engine in Chet Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this
list for a long time and have learnt a lot just by following along, but
this is my first post.
The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the
USA next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a
car race, I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I
might try to plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up
from Chicago to look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for
a look at Brodhead? I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but
I've heard there are a lot of interesting aeroplanes based there?
Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any
other suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? I would
appreciate any guidance.
Thanks a lot.
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I guess this has nothing to do with footwear, then?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Gow
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap
Depends what's wrong with the flip flop. It could be the resistor or
the transistor or the capacitor.
Bob
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering |
If I violate all normal sensibilities and come in my Cherokee will I be
stoned? I don't have my CFS at work. What sort of runway do we have?
Perhaps there would be a more suitable runway close by. I've been into
Stratford and Goderich but they are a little far.
(Pretty bad for a guy who used to operate a Chief out of his hayfield)
Bob
do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
Sent: May 29, 2007 11:24 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering
Just got a reply from Jim Armstrong, confirming the date for the 18th
Annual Pietenpol Gathering in Brussels, Ontario.
It will be held Saturday, June 16th, the day before Father's Day, at the
Armstrong Aerodrome (as usual).
For those who are not familiar with the event, it's the Canadian
equivalent of Brodhead - nice and laid back, and friendly. They have a
bar-b-que, and Pietenpols, and you can set up a tent at the field and stay
overnight. What more could you want?
Brussels is a little village, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, out in
farm country (look it up on GoogleMaps using this link)
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=42.884
015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr
The airfield is on the NorthEast side of the village
http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=43
.747351,-81.240807&spn=0.053323,0.107288&z=14
Bill C
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"$1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young
Eagle rides in your Pietenpol."
Jack, that's what I thought but I couldn't remember, thanks. Mind if
I ask what your premium is for everything you're covered for? If you
mentioned it already, sorry for the repeat.
"PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping
someone would ask,HAHAHA!"
Harvey, I knew it was something like that, I had the last 3 figured
out after I pondered awhile longer, but my best guess for the
other 'p' was 'passenger'. Oh well, now I know.
Do not archive.
Tim "Learn something new everyday" Hansen in Orient, Ohio
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| Subject: | Re: Visit to the USA |
Visit to the USASteve
That trip would be very possible. Indianapolis is about 300 mi., 6
hours from Brodhead. Brodhead to Osh is about 3 hours. It is best not
to go thru Chicago unless you just want to see the city. Traffic can be
horrible and road tolls are about $7 all the way thru. Best to go
Interstate Hwy 57 west to Interstate 39 north. Get off at Rockford,
Ill. and take back roads to Brodhead. Brodhead also hosts other Fly
ins, there may be something going on there. The OSH museum and Pioneer
airport would be well worth the trip.
I have attached a calander of diffrent fly ins around the country for
the month of June.
Good luck
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Bryan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Hi everyone!
Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and
I've been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!).
In fact, there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair
engine in Chet Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this
list for a long time and have learnt a lot just by following along, but
this is my first post.
The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the
USA next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a
car race, I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I
might try to plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up
from Chicago to look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for
a look at Brodhead? I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but
I've heard there are a lot of interesting aeroplanes based there?
Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any
other suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? I would
appreciate any guidance.
Thanks a lot.
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| Subject: | Re: Visit to the USA |
Just a word of warning... 2 years ago, I ended up driving 24 hrs straight
from Atlanta GA to Brodhead. Had no intention of doing that, but we were
unable to find ANY accomodations after we passed Indianapolis. I was told at
several hotels that just about every hotel room within 200 miles of Chicago
stays booked up pretty much throughout the summer for various conventions
and such. Of course, if you're not going right before the big Oshkosh event,
then it might be a better situation, but you might want to check ahead of
time if you'll need accomodations there. Last year we got a hotel in
Janesville that worked out well. Janesville is not more than an hour from
Brodhead and is a good-sized town with food, shopping, many hotels, etc. So
if you're not going to drive back to Indy the same day, then you might wanna
call and reserve a room there.
As for planes, last year at the B'head fly-in they were running a real
Anzani 3-cylinder engine on a Bleriot Fuselage. There's also a guy who has
the worlds largest collection of Flying Fleas and a random variety of rare
and interesting planes, mostly from the Golden Age. I'm sure you'll enjoy it
there even if you only see a little bit of it... from what I can gather it's
a bit like your Shuttleworth collection, but without the official
organization and monthly airshows!
You might also want to look at the EAA website and see what the schedule of
activities is at Pioneer Airport in Oshkosh... might be having a fly-in or
some activities there.
-Mike
Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Bryan" <steve.bryan@apracing.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:48 AM
Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
> Hi everyone!
> Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and I've
> been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!). In
fact,
> there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair engine in Chet
> Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this list for a long time
> and have learnt a lot just by following along, but this is my first post.
> The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the USA
> next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a car
race,
> I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I might try to
> plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up from Chicago
to
> look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for a look at
Brodhead?
> I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but I've heard there are a
> lot of interesting aeroplanes based there?
> Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any other
> suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? I would appreciate any
> guidance.
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
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