---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/29/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:53 AM - Re: insurance () 2. 05:04 AM - Re: insurance (Phillips, Jack) 3. 06:52 AM - Flip flop flap (Bill Church) 4. 07:00 AM - Re: Flip flop flap (Robert Gow) 5. 07:28 AM - Filler strip question (Rick Holland) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Flip flop flap () 7. 08:25 AM - 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Bill Church) 8. 10:47 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (baileys) 9. 12:59 PM - Re: Flip flop flap (Bill Church) 10. 01:30 PM - Re: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Robert Gow) 11. 02:30 PM - insurance (glich7@juno.com) 12. 07:54 PM - Re: Visit to the USA (Dick Navratil) 13. 08:48 PM - Re: Visit to the USA (Mike Whaley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: insurance From: PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping someone would ask,HAHAHA! Do not archive I'm sure it's obvious but what's the abbreviation PLPD mean? Is it not for polite company or am I just slow? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:51 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: insurance From: "Phillips, Jack" $1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young Eagle rides in your Pietenpol. Jack Phillips NX899JP Liability and Ground Hull Insurance - no flight hull. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: insurance --> I understand reluctance to spend for insurance. However, when I complete the Piet I will take out liability insurance as soon as practicable. IMO, it's the very low probability of the disastrous outcome for which we should be insured. I'll spend for liability coverage, but not hull insurance. Losing the plane without hull insurance would break my heart, but not my bank. (I'd have a hard time convincing my wife that we should shell out for another plane, though. Hang gliding, anyone?) OTOH, a successful lawsuit can take all that I own, my heart, my soul, and my wallet. "What's in your wallet?" is not just a credit card ad, IMO. And I am too old to acquire again enough money on which to live comfortably. Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: Dick Navratil >Sent: May 26, 2007 7:12 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance > >An important question in thinking about liability insurance is, how much equity you have in your house. If you don't need to worry about loosing much, they won't spent much coming after you. You hear about stupid lawsuits all of the time. I choose to insure th plane and to carry a blanket policy for any stupid thing I might do, anywhere. That blanket policy is an extra $150 on the homeowners policy. >Dick N. _________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:40 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap From: "Bill Church" Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore... I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months. I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken flip-flops I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone to come along with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor. What does your tag line mean? DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE Bill C --> Tim in Bovey == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:48 AM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap Flip flop flapDepends what's wrong with the flip flop. It could be the resistor or the transistor or the capacitor. Bob Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: May 29, 2007 9:52 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore. I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months. I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken flip-flops I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone to come along with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor. What does your tag line mean? DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE Bill C --> Tim in Bovey == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:59 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Filler strip question Concerning the filler strips shown on the plans that go around the outer edges of the fuselage sides, what size strips work the best? and how far back should they go? on the plans it looks like they stop at the rear seat. Thanks Rick -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:31 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap From: Would that be a bootstrap,one shot or multiple flip flop? Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: May 29, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap Okay, Tim, I can't take the suspense anymore... I've been reading it at the close of your e-mails for months. I feel like I'm missing out on a chance to fix all those broken flip-flops I see everyday, lying in the gutter, just waiting for someone to come along with a bit of know-how, and a spare capacitor. What does your tag line mean? DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE DO NOT ARCHIVE Bill C --> Tim in Bovey === You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! === ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:01 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering From: "Bill Church" Just got a reply from Jim Armstrong, confirming the date for the 18th Annual Pietenpol Gathering in Brussels, Ontario. It will be held Saturday, June 16th, the day before Father's Day, at the Armstrong Aerodrome (as usual). For those who are not familiar with the event, it's the Canadian equivalent of Brodhead - nice and laid back, and friendly. They have a bar-b-que, and Pietenpols, and you can set up a tent at the field and stay overnight. What more could you want? Brussels is a little village, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, out in farm country (look it up on GoogleMaps using this link) http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om= 1&ll=42.8 84015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr The airfield is on the NorthEast side of the village http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om= 1&t=h&ll 43.747351,-81.240807&spn=0.053323,0.107288&z=14 Bill C ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:51 AM PST US From: "baileys" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA Visit to the USASounds like a good plan Steve, The Brodhead EAA chapter web sites are http://www.eaa431.org/ and http://www.eaachapter431.org/ The first one seems to be the most current. Anyway I would suggest contacting them so they know when you will be there and maybe even they will have someone available to show you around. Hope you enjoy the trip and win the race. Another lurker. Bob B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Bryan To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA Hi everyone! Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and I've been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!). In fact, there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair engine in Chet Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this list for a long time and have learnt a lot just by following along, but this is my first post. The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the USA next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a car race, I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I might try to plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up from Chicago to look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for a look at Brodhead? I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but I've heard there are a lot of interesting aeroplanes based there? Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any other suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks a lot. This HTML message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl If you are not the intended recipient it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail; please return the e-mail to the sender and immediately permanently delete it and any attachments. The sender does not accept liability for any data corruption, interception or unauthorised amendment to which e-mail may be susceptible, or the consequences thereof. Opinions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of AP Racing Ltd are neither given nor endorsed by it. Whilst AP Racing Ltd take reasonable care to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail does not contain software viruses, this cannot be guaranteed and you should therefore carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. AP Racing Ltd accepts no responsibility or liability for any damage that you suffer as a result of software viruses. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:35 PM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap From: "Bill Church" I guess this has nothing to do with footwear, then? DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Gow Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:16 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Flip flop flap Depends what's wrong with the flip flop. It could be the resistor or the transistor or the capacitor. Bob Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:05 PM PST US From: "Robert Gow" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering If I violate all normal sensibilities and come in my Cherokee will I be stoned? I don't have my CFS at work. What sort of runway do we have? Perhaps there would be a more suitable runway close by. I've been into Stratford and Goderich but they are a little far. (Pretty bad for a guy who used to operate a Chief out of his hayfield) Bob do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church Sent: May 29, 2007 11:24 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering Just got a reply from Jim Armstrong, confirming the date for the 18th Annual Pietenpol Gathering in Brussels, Ontario. It will be held Saturday, June 16th, the day before Father's Day, at the Armstrong Aerodrome (as usual). For those who are not familiar with the event, it's the Canadian equivalent of Brodhead - nice and laid back, and friendly. They have a bar-b-que, and Pietenpols, and you can set up a tent at the field and stay overnight. What more could you want? Brussels is a little village, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, out in farm country (look it up on GoogleMaps using this link) http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=42.884 015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr The airfield is on the NorthEast side of the village http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=43 .747351,-81.240807&spn=0.053323,0.107288&z=14 Bill C ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:32 PM PST US From: "glich7@juno.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance "$1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young Eagle rides in your Pietenpol." Jack, that's what I thought but I couldn't remember, thanks. Mind if I ask what your premium is for everything you're covered for? If you mentioned it already, sorry for the repeat. "PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping someone would ask,HAHAHA!" Harvey, I knew it was something like that, I had the last 3 figured out after I pondered awhile longer, but my best guess for the other 'p' was 'passenger'. Oh well, now I know. Do not archive. Tim "Learn something new everyday" Hansen in Orient, Ohio ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:04 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA Visit to the USASteve That trip would be very possible. Indianapolis is about 300 mi., 6 hours from Brodhead. Brodhead to Osh is about 3 hours. It is best not to go thru Chicago unless you just want to see the city. Traffic can be horrible and road tolls are about $7 all the way thru. Best to go Interstate Hwy 57 west to Interstate 39 north. Get off at Rockford, Ill. and take back roads to Brodhead. Brodhead also hosts other Fly ins, there may be something going on there. The OSH museum and Pioneer airport would be well worth the trip. I have attached a calander of diffrent fly ins around the country for the month of June. Good luck Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Bryan To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:48 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA Hi everyone! Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and I've been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!). In fact, there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair engine in Chet Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this list for a long time and have learnt a lot just by following along, but this is my first post. The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the USA next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a car race, I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I might try to plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up from Chicago to look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for a look at Brodhead? I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but I've heard there are a lot of interesting aeroplanes based there? Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any other suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? I would appreciate any guidance. Thanks a lot. This HTML message has been scanned for viruses by BlackSpider MailControl If you are not the intended recipient it may be unlawful for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail; please return the e-mail to the sender and immediately permanently delete it and any attachments. The sender does not accept liability for any data corruption, interception or unauthorised amendment to which e-mail may be susceptible, or the consequences thereof. Opinions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of AP Racing Ltd are neither given nor endorsed by it. Whilst AP Racing Ltd take reasonable care to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail does not contain software viruses, this cannot be guaranteed and you should therefore carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. AP Racing Ltd accepts no responsibility or liability for any damage that you suffer as a result of software viruses. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:03 PM PST US From: "Mike Whaley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA Just a word of warning... 2 years ago, I ended up driving 24 hrs straight from Atlanta GA to Brodhead. Had no intention of doing that, but we were unable to find ANY accomodations after we passed Indianapolis. I was told at several hotels that just about every hotel room within 200 miles of Chicago stays booked up pretty much throughout the summer for various conventions and such. Of course, if you're not going right before the big Oshkosh event, then it might be a better situation, but you might want to check ahead of time if you'll need accomodations there. Last year we got a hotel in Janesville that worked out well. Janesville is not more than an hour from Brodhead and is a good-sized town with food, shopping, many hotels, etc. So if you're not going to drive back to Indy the same day, then you might wanna call and reserve a room there. As for planes, last year at the B'head fly-in they were running a real Anzani 3-cylinder engine on a Bleriot Fuselage. There's also a guy who has the worlds largest collection of Flying Fleas and a random variety of rare and interesting planes, mostly from the Golden Age. I'm sure you'll enjoy it there even if you only see a little bit of it... from what I can gather it's a bit like your Shuttleworth collection, but without the official organization and monthly airshows! You might also want to look at the EAA website and see what the schedule of activities is at Pioneer Airport in Oshkosh... might be having a fly-in or some activities there. -Mike Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bryan" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:48 AM Subject: [piet] Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA > Hi everyone! > Let me introduce myself, my name is Steve Bryan, I live in the UK and I've > been building a Pietenpol for nine years now (I'm a slow worker!). In fact, > there's even a picture of me and some mates with my Corvair engine in Chet > Peek's 'Pietenpol Story'! I've been 'lurking' on this list for a long time > and have learnt a lot just by following along, but this is my first post. > The reason that I'm finally posting is because I'm going to be in the USA > next month for the Formula One Grand Prix at Indianapolis (it's a car race, > I work on brakes and clutches for the cars) and I thought I might try to > plan a little Pietenpol tourism! I thought I could drive up from Chicago to > look at the EAA museum at Oshkosh and maybe call in for a look at Brodhead? > I know there won't be any fly-in taking place, but I've heard there are a > lot of interesting aeroplanes based there? > Does this plan sound feasible in the couple of days I will have? Any other > suggestions for places to visit in the vicinity? 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