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1. 01:08 AM - Visit to the USA (Steve Bryan)
2. 04:01 AM - Re: insurance ()
3. 04:25 AM - car rental at OSH ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
4. 04:33 AM - Re: insurance (Phillips, Jack)
5. 04:56 AM - Re: insurance ()
6. 05:23 AM - Re: insurance (Phillips, Jack)
7. 05:29 AM - Re: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Bill Church)
8. 07:15 AM - Re: car rental at OSH ? (Jack T. Textor)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering (Scott Knowlton)
10. 07:42 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (Roman Bukolt)
11. 07:49 AM - Re: car rental at OSH ? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
12. 07:52 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (Phillips, Jack)
13. 11:03 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (Roman Bukolt)
14. 11:42 AM - Re: Visit to the USA ()
15. 11:51 AM - Re: Visit to the USA (Robert Gow)
16. 12:43 PM - Driving from Atlanta to Brodhead (Barry Davis)
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Subject: | Visit to the USA |
Thanks to all for the advice. I'm sure I'm going to have a great trip!
Let's hope that work doesn't get in the way too much!
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I'm not sure if the passenger is covered under that.You may want to
check with an insurance company.In my case I will never be carrying a
passenger so it's not an issue.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
glich7@juno.com
Sent: May 29, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance
<glich7@juno.com>
"$1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young
Eagle rides in your Pietenpol."
Jack, that's what I thought but I couldn't remember, thanks. Mind if
I ask what your premium is for everything you're covered for? If you
mentioned it already, sorry for the repeat.
"PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping
someone would ask,HAHAHA!"
Harvey, I knew it was something like that, I had the last 3 figured
out after I pondered awhile longer, but my best guess for the
other 'p' was 'passenger'. Oh well, now I know.
Do not archive.
Tim "Learn something new everyday" Hansen in Orient, Ohio
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Subject: | car rental at OSH ? |
Any suggestions on who/where to rent a car from during the EAA
convention ? Past experiences tips and do's/don'ts welcome.
Mike C.
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I've got $1,000,000 liability and $15,000 ground hull. I think my
premium is about $600 a year through Falcon (EAA). I also insure my
RV-4 with them. I do carry hull on it (beacause I have it financed) and
the $1,000,000 liability and full hull for $50,000 costs me about $1300
a year. The nice thing about Falcon's policy is that I'm covered up to
the value of my policy on ANY airplane I fly, so I can fly other folks
airplanes and still have insurance, up to $50,000 if I break something.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:27 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: insurance
--> <glich7@juno.com>
"$1,000,000 Liability insurance is required if you want to give Young
Eagle rides in your Pietenpol."
Jack, that's what I thought but I couldn't remember, thanks. Mind if I
ask what your premium is for everything you're covered for? If you
mentioned it already, sorry for the repeat.
"PLPD is public liability and property damage.Secretly I was hoping
someone would ask,HAHAHA!"
Harvey, I knew it was something like that, I had the last 3 figured out
after I pondered awhile longer, but my best guess for the other 'p' was
'passenger'. Oh well, now I know.
Do not archive.
Tim "Learn something new everyday" Hansen in Orient, Ohio
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Do you have a deductable amount?That's always a nice surprise whenever
you have to claim."Oh where sorry you have a 5000 dollar deductable on
your policy ,we're sorry but you'll have to pay for that."After you've
paid out all this money and you are still screwed into the ground for
more.That's the kind of things I just love!Always read the fine print at
the bottom!
I've got $1,000,000 liability and $15,000 ground hull. I think my
premium is about $600 a year through Falcon (EAA). I also insure my
RV-4 with them. I do carry hull on it (beacause I have it financed) and
the $1,000,000 liability and full hull for $50,000 costs me about $1300
a year. The nice thing about Falcon's policy is that I'm covered up to
the value of my policy on ANY airplane I fly, so I can fly other folks
airplanes and still have insurance, up to $50,000 if I break something.
Jack
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Just looked at my policy to be sure. Premium for the RV-4 is $1350 for
$50,000 hull (ground and in-motion), $1,000,000 liability. Zero
deductible.
Jack
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: insurance
Do you have a deductable amount?That's always a nice surprise whenever
you have to claim."Oh where sorry you have a 5000 dollar deductable on
your policy ,we're sorry but you'll have to pay for that."After you've
paid out all this money and you are still screwed into the ground for
more.That's the kind of things I just love!Always read the fine print at
the bottom!
I've got $1,000,000 liability and $15,000 ground hull. I think my
premium is about $600 a year through Falcon (EAA). I also insure my
RV-4 with them. I do carry hull on it (beacause I have it financed) and
the $1,000,000 liability and full hull for $50,000 costs me about $1300
a year. The nice thing about Falcon's policy is that I'm covered up to
the value of my policy on ANY airplane I fly, so I can fly other folks
airplanes and still have insurance, up to $50,000 if I break something.
Jack
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Subject: | 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering |
Bob,
When I was there last year, there was quite a variety of aircraft
present. Five Pietenpols, a couple of Tiger Moths, and a bunch of other
planes, including a few regular ol' Cessnas. There's no snobbery.
The field is a grass strip. Details can be found here:
http://www.copanational.org/PlacesToFly/airport_view.php?pr_id=1&ap_id=
8
90
on that page, you'll find Jim's phone number. Probably best to give him
a call for details.
Bill
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Subject: | car rental at OSH ? |
Not sure Mike, but if I'm there at the same time you could certainly
borrow my Suburban.
Jack Textor
Any suggestions on who/where to rent a car from during the EAA
convention ? Past experiences tips and do's/don'ts welcome.
Mike C.
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Subject: | 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering |
Robert: I don't think Brussels is in the CFS but we saw all manner of
airplane last summer (including Witchita and Lock Haven tin!!) I'm sure you
would find the field quite suitable for your Cherokee. There are two strips
so into wind won't be an issue. Mr. Armstrong keeps the runways in very
good shape and we've had a dry spring.
Bill and I will look forward to seeing you there! I'll be the tall bald guy
wearing an EAA hat!
Scott Knowlton
>From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
>To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering
>Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:27:27 -0400
>
>If I violate all normal sensibilities and come in my Cherokee will I be
>stoned? I don't have my CFS at work. What sort of runway do we have?
>Perhaps there would be a more suitable runway close by. I've been into
>Stratford and Goderich but they are a little far.
>
>
>(Pretty bad for a guy who used to operate a Chief out of his hayfield)
>
>
>Bob
>
>do not archive.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Church
> Sent: May 29, 2007 11:24 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: 2007 Brussels Pietenpol Gathering
>
>
> Just got a reply from Jim Armstrong, confirming the date for the 18th
>Annual Pietenpol Gathering in Brussels, Ontario.
> It will be held Saturday, June 16th, the day before Father's Day, at the
>Armstrong Aerodrome (as usual).
> For those who are not familiar with the event, it's the Canadian
>equivalent of Brodhead - nice and laid back, and friendly. They have a
>bar-b-que, and Pietenpols, and you can set up a tent at the field and stay
>overnight. What more could you want?
>
> Brussels is a little village, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, out
>in
>farm country (look it up on GoogleMaps using this link)
>
>
>http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&ll=42.884
>015,-81.00769&spn=3.461446,6.866455&z=8&iwloc=addr
>
> The airfield is on the NorthEast side of the village
>
>
>http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=brussels,+on&ie=UTF8&om=1&t=h&ll=43
>.747351,-81.240807&spn=0.053323,0.107288&z=14
>
>
> Bill C
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Visit to the USA |
Visit to the USASteve, if you can somehow make it up to Brodhead, there
are at least two or three Piets there and a Scout there.
Also, There are at least 4 more Piets just a 45 minute drive north.
Bill Rewey, a great source of Piet knowledge, has his Piet at a small
airport south of Madison, Wi., and in that same hangar, there are two
more Piets. Mine is a couple miles further north at the Middleton,
airport.
If you have the time and I knew when you'd be up here I could meet and
guide you, and I'm sure Bill would love to talk with you.
Roman Bukolt
608-848-4108
conceptmodels@tds.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Bryan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Thanks to all for the advice. I'm sure I'm going to have a great trip!
Let's hope that work doesn't get in the way too much!
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Subject: | car rental at OSH ? |
That is a very kind offer of you, Jack. I discovered that EAA has a
CDP number you can give to Hertz or Enterprise and the cost
per week drops by $100 bucks when you use that number. Most likely will
have my own car but just checking to see who has been
there, done that. Thank you !
Mike C.
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Subject: | Visit to the USA |
Hey Roman,
Are you going to have your Piet at Brodhead this year? I'll be there,
but in an RV-4 (I know, I know...a "spam can"). I don't have enough
vacation time this year to fly the Pietenpol there from North Carolina.
Let's see, Brodhead is 4 hours and 10 minutes flying time in an RV-4, or
17 - 1/2 hours (two days flying) by Pietenpol. Go figure.
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol NX899JP (my "Real" Airplane)
RV-4 N18LR (my travelling airplane)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roman
Bukolt
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Steve, if you can somehow make it up to Brodhead, there are at least two
or three Piets there and a Scout there.
Also, There are at least 4 more Piets just a 45 minute drive north.
Bill Rewey, a great source of Piet knowledge, has his Piet at a small
airport south of Madison, Wi., and in that same hangar, there are two
more Piets. Mine is a couple miles further north at the Middleton,
airport.
If you have the time and I knew when you'd be up here I could meet and
guide you, and I'm sure Bill would love to talk with you.
Roman Bukolt
608-848-4108
conceptmodels@tds.net
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From: Steve Bryan <mailto:steve.bryan@apracing.co.uk>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Thanks to all for the advice. I'm sure I'm going to have a great
trip!
Let's hope that work doesn't get in the way too much!
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Subject: | Re: Visit to the USA |
Visit to the USAGee!
Let's see. 38mi. due south of the Middleton airport.
Yeah! I'll have mine there.
Nothing short of a fatal heart attack or violent weather will keep me
away.
Needless to say, Bill will be there too. We'll likely fly down
together.
RV-4's are nice airplanes. They provide a nice comparison between
extremes in homebuilts.
BTW I wouldn't classify an RV-4 as a "Spam Can".
Spam cans are planes that are cranked out in assembly lines in big
buildings and they all are alike.
An RV built by hand with a lot of tender loving care is more of a one of
a kind, piece of metal art work.
Stand proudly along side your RV.
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From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Hey Roman,
Are you going to have your Piet at Brodhead this year? I'll be there,
but in an RV-4 (I know, I know...a "spam can"). I don't have enough
vacation time this year to fly the Pietenpol there from North Carolina.
Let's see, Brodhead is 4 hours and 10 minutes flying time in an RV-4, or
17 - 1/2 hours (two days flying) by Pietenpol. Go figure.
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol NX899JP (my "Real" Airplane)
RV-4 N18LR (my travelling airplane)
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roman
Bukolt
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:41 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Steve, if you can somehow make it up to Brodhead, there are at least
two or three Piets there and a Scout there.
Also, There are at least 4 more Piets just a 45 minute drive north.
Bill Rewey, a great source of Piet knowledge, has his Piet at a small
airport south of Madison, Wi., and in that same hangar, there are two
more Piets. Mine is a couple miles further north at the Middleton,
airport.
If you have the time and I knew when you'd be up here I could meet and
guide you, and I'm sure Bill would love to talk with you.
Roman Bukolt
608-848-4108
conceptmodels@tds.net
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----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Bryan
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:09 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Thanks to all for the advice. I'm sure I'm going to have a great
trip!
Let's hope that work doesn't get in the way too much!
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Subject: | Visit to the USA |
Ya I'd agree with that .Since I'm not a builder myself I always think
those guys or gals that can do this sort of thing are real crafts people
and I am just amazed by these people and their talent.Whenever I build
anything it just never quite comes out right and even the people that
work with me at the airfield get very frustrated with me from time to
time.I wish I had your talent to build anything.If I was to start an RV
it wouldn't come out right at all.I'd have to kill something by the
third day!
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RV-4's are nice airplanes. They provide a nice comparison between
extremes in homebuilts.
BTW I wouldn't classify an RV-4 as a "Spam Can".
Spam cans are planes that are cranked out in assembly lines in big
buildings and they all are alike.
An RV built by hand with a lot of tender loving care is more of a one of
a kind, piece of metal art work.
Stand proudly along side your RV.
Do not archive
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Subject: | Visit to the USA |
Visit to the USAYea. I agree. It takes a lot of skill to build any
airplane and metal work isn't as easy as some people make it look. I knew a
guy working in the sheet metal shop at Field in Toronto. A Beech 18 bent up
an engine cowl and Arthur rolled out a new one on the English wheel in no
time that fit perfectly. Made it look easy.
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
harvey.rule@bell.ca
Sent: May 30, 2007 2:42 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Visit to the USA
Ya I'd agree with that .Since I'm not a builder myself I always think
those guys or gals that can do this sort of thing are real crafts people and
I am just amazed by these people and their talent.Whenever I build anything
it just never quite comes out right and even the people that work with me at
the airfield get very frustrated with me from time to time.I wish I had your
talent to build anything.If I was to start an RV it wouldn't come out right
at all.I'd have to kill something by the third day!
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RV-4's are nice airplanes. They provide a nice comparison between
extremes in homebuilts.
BTW I wouldn't classify an RV-4 as a "Spam Can".
Spam cans are planes that are cranked out in assembly lines in big
buildings and they all are alike.
An RV built by hand with a lot of tender loving care is more of a one of a
kind, piece of metal art work.
Stand proudly along side your RV.
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Subject: | Driving from Atlanta to Brodhead |
Hey Mike
When the Big Piet Builders drive from Carrollton, it only takes us 16
hours and we have to get on I-75 at Cartersville just to get started. Of
course it helps to have 5 other drivers to swap out with and 2 radar
detectors.
Have we met? We have been up every year for the past 5 years. Are you
building?
We are having a fly-in in Carrollton this Sept. 15th.
Barry Davis
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