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1. 05:18 AM - Re: Cabane size (hvandervoo@aol.com)
2. 06:09 AM - Re: Cabane size (Scott Schreiber)
3. 09:24 AM - Sky Scout VNE (Terry Hall)
4. 01:05 PM - piano hinge for aileron (Jim Cooper)
5. 01:49 PM - Re: Magneto (Steve Eldredge)
6. 06:35 PM - Re: piano hinge for aileron (Rick Holland)
7. 07:19 PM - Re: Cabane size (Scott Schreiber)
8. 07:22 PM - Re: Magneto (Chet's Mail)
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Rick,
I used 1.685 X 0.714 X 049 for the cabane struts and
2.023 X 0.857 X 049 for Wingstruts.
If cost is an issue, try using the normal round tubing.
You can squeeze the ends to fit longeron dimensions
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 4:46 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane size
I'm ready to order stock for my cabane struts and I am still unsure what siz
e
ost everyone is using.
My questions are....Does anyone know what size 1667 streamlined tubing was i
n
he old days, as specified on Bernards plans?
There have been references to the use of 1.685 x 0.714 tubing, but what abou
t
.349 x 0.571? Would the smaller size be OK strength wise? There sure is a
ifference cost wise!!!!!
I don't want to use aluminum, and would prefer not to use round tubing and f
air
t out. What has everyone else been doing? I don't want to reinvent the wheel
.
Thanks,
ick Schreiber
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Rick, I will be home later tonight and I will look at mine as well as the
plans.
-Scott Schreiber
I know, what are the odds of two guys with the name Schreiber working on the
same plane....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane size
> <lmforge@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm ready to order stock for my cabane struts and I am still unsure what
> size most everyone is using.
>
> My questions are....Does anyone know what size 1667 streamlined tubing was
> in the old days, as specified on Bernards plans?
>
> There have been references to the use of 1.685 x 0.714 tubing, but what
> about 1.349 x 0.571? Would the smaller size be OK strength wise? There
> sure is a difference cost wise!!!!!
>
> I don't want to use aluminum, and would prefer not to use round tubing and
> fair it out. What has everyone else been doing? I don't want to reinvent
> the wheel.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Schreiber
>
>
>
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Hello all,
Does anyone know the VNE on the Sky Scout? I cannot find the number
anywhere in the material that I have.
Thanks,
Terry Hall
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| Subject: | piano hinge for aileron |
What size piano hinge is commonly used to attach the aileron on the
Pietenpol? Thanks, Jim Cooper
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I still have two in a box that I never used.
Steve@byu.edu
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago
morete
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Magneto
I have seen old references in the archives to army surplus mags (Slick
4220). I am wondering if somebody has an extra one for sale. mm?
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | Re: piano hinge for aileron |
Jim
I ended up using the 3/4" stuff. Then the other thing to decide is to go
with the extruded aluminum hinge or the cheaper stuff. I went with the
extruded and have since seen both types on Piets and have been told by the
old timers that its not necessary. You will find some discussion in the
archives about that subject. Attached a couple of pictures of mine done
using the "Cuy" methodology using blind nuts.
Rick
On 6/8/07, Jim Cooper <blugoos1@hughes.net> wrote:
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> What size piano hinge is commonly used to attach the aileron on the
> Pietenpol? Thanks, Jim Cooper
>
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>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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The plans give you the length of the cabanes as you know, but leave out some
minor details like size and wall thickness. Based on the dimensions of the
other parts in the drawing I came out with 1.25 x .5 with 1.349X.571X049
from wicks aircraft being the closest match. It was available in .049 and I
think .035. The weight difference was minor so I went with the .049. It
looks so small when you get it in person, the ones on other peoples planes
look twice as large in the pictures. Not having specs lets your mind run
wild. The same with the lift struts. I have seen so many sizes, aluminum,
steel, you name it. In the end I went with aluminum in a larger size. For
what it's worth Wicks and another site both reccomended it for the Piet.
What I chose was:
6061-T6 STRUT/10-1/2' EXTRUDED 6061-T6 ALUMINUM STRUT Stock 10 foot 6 inch
lengths major axis 3.13, minor axis 1.25, wall .065, flat ID 1.006-1.014,
flat length .88, wt. 604lb p/ft . Ultimate 23,268 psi, yield Sold only in 10
ft 6 inch lengths. Used for struts in Pietenpol, Fisher, CGS Hawk, floats,
Light Minature Aircraft. SOLD IN FULL LENGTHS ONLY.
SKU: STR31-12-6
Our Price: $94.50 (that is per strut)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane size
> <lmforge@earthlink.net>
>
> I'm ready to order stock for my cabane struts and I am still unsure what
> size most everyone is using.
>
> My questions are....Does anyone know what size 1667 streamlined tubing was
> in the old days, as specified on Bernards plans?
>
> There have been references to the use of 1.685 x 0.714 tubing, but what
> about 1.349 x 0.571? Would the smaller size be OK strength wise? There
> sure is a difference cost wise!!!!!
>
> I don't want to use aluminum, and would prefer not to use round tubing and
> fair it out. What has everyone else been doing? I don't want to reinvent
> the wheel.
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Schreiber
>
>
>
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I might be interested in one of the Mags.
Chethartley1@mchsi.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Eldredge
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Magneto
I still have two in a box that I never used.
Steve@byu.edu
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of santiago
morete
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:28 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Magneto
I have seen old references in the archives to army surplus mags (Slick
4220). I am wondering if somebody has an extra one for sale. mm?
Saludos
Santiago
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