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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:25 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson)
3. 01:50 AM - Collection of information (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
4. 03:22 AM - Re: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting (HelsperSew@aol.com)
5. 04:49 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
6. 05:11 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 05:37 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (John Egan)
8. 05:50 AM - Piet List (Koebel)
9. 06:17 AM - Elevator cables (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 06:20 AM - Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. 06:35 AM - Re: Piet List (Steve Ruse)
12. 06:52 AM - tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 07:21 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Jack T. Textor)
14. 07:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: (Joseph Czaplicki)
15. 08:01 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Steve Ruse)
16. 08:22 AM - Douwe's info for list (Douwe Blumberg)
17. 08:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Skip Gadd)
18. 09:03 AM - name/address (Arden Adamson)
19. 09:40 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com)
20. 10:01 AM - Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (gus notti)
21. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Phillips, Jack)
22. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
23. 10:33 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Ed G.)
24. 10:48 AM - Name/Address (Richard and Kathryn Davis)
25. 11:00 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (James)
26. 11:11 AM - Pietenpol Directory (Mac Zirges)
27. 11:15 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Glenn W. Thomas)
28. 11:19 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Dave Abramson)
29. 12:42 PM - Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
30. 01:05 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Jack T. Textor)
31. 01:58 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Lynn Knoll)
32. 02:10 PM - Corky's list (HelsperSew@aol.com)
33. 02:39 PM - Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper) (Jim Cooper)
34. 02:48 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com)
35. 04:13 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (jimboyer@hughes.net)
36. 06:15 PM - Cap'n Corky's Piet List (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
37. 06:59 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Steve Singleton)
38. 07:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Chet's Mail)
39. 07:29 PM - piet info (Dick Navratil)
40. 07:43 PM - Pietenpol Directory (santiago morete)
41. 07:47 PM - Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Rcaprd@aol.com)
42. 08:33 PM - Re: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Steve Ruse)
43. 09:40 PM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Gordon Bowen)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Clif Dawson
Vancouver, BC, Canada
CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca
http://clifdawson.ca/
Fuselage almost complete. 36" centersection in progress.
Tail complete, on plane with controls and cables working.
Landing gear and tailwheel on plane.
All local Hemlock and birch ply materials. Corvair engine in
pieces. New, 40 over TRW pistons and cylinders presently
in Brooks Alberta.
I'm in the existing builder's directory And don't forget our
frapper map, although it seems to be doing strange things
right now.
http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol
Clif
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
A Colin Walker prop! He was a long time member of my
RAA chapter. He passed away not too long ago.
Clif
Graham J. Hansen
Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Pietenpol CF-AUN, flying since 1970. About 767 hrs. total time.
Continental C85 engine with Colin Walker 72 x 43 wooden propeller.
Cruises at 80 mph @ 2300 RPM. A real fun machine that has provided much
enjoyment for nearly 37 years.
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| Subject: | Collection of information |
Corky....
** Corky, make sure you put together a list of everyone and then make it available
so we can print it.
Kenneth M. Heide (Fargo Yankee)
PO Box 1026
Hawley, MN (Western side of Minnesota along the North Dakota Boarder)
218-486-1963 H
701-793-3030 C
Pietenpol Long Fuse 29" wide (starting on the standard gear legs)
wing ribs done
A-65 Continental (needs to be rebuilt)
Kenneth M. Heide, BA,CPO,FAAOP
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| Subject: | Re: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting |
Chris,
I did.
Dan Helsper
Helsper Sewing Corp.
8186 Commerce Dr.
Loves Park IL 61111
PH (815) 885-4365
FAX (815) 885-4366
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
John Recine, Lititz, Pa
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
John,
Would be helpful if you would include your last name and location
CMC
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Certainly, Please add me to the list of current builders.
John Recine
635 South Broad Street
Lititz, Pennsylvania
717-627-4901
_AmSafetyc@aol.com_ (mailto:AmSafetyc@aol.com)
Home Airfield; LNS
Reserved Tail: NX985BP
Project start date: January 07
Fuse: Long, yellow poplar
Width: 27" Wide Glide
Fuse status, under construction
Vertical Stabilizer: Complete
Wing Ribs: Complete set purchased from Jack Textor
Construction site: Basement
Activities include, Building my Piet and visiting other builders and Piet
owners during my business travels. All have become part of the learning process
of build methods and innovations of improvement. Always willing to learn new
techniques and old methods lost or forgotten from experienced woodworkers
and builders.
No power plant as of yet, had one in process, the guy disappeared from the
boards with no further discussion so I am still looking. At present would
prefer an 0235 but considering a Corvair and Subaru as close seconds all
contingent upon pricing and availability.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieters live........
John Egan
Greenville, Wisconsin
johnegan99@yahoo.com
Flying machine on straight axle landing gear. Recently installed torque tube
and rudder bar. Wing struts are the next milestone, and I have a Corvair engine
in pieces. I hope to fly some day.
A special thanks to the very helpful list members.
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Hi,
Colin Koebel
Clarendon Hills IL.
Just starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse
I have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor.
Flying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a
Cessna 170B.
The piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too
cold at the hanger (no Heat)
And NO I don't have enough projects!
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Rick wrote-
>I noticed that the upper elevator cables went through
>nylon fairleads on the outside of the fuselage which raised the cables.
This is not shown on the original Hoopman drawings and is an unauthorized
modification that may result in a dangerous airplane, unrecoverable flat
spins, unconsciousness, or even death.
Just kidding, of course ;o) DO NOT ARCHIVE
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory |
Pieters,
I'm somewhat surprised at the collective response to the directory info
request. As of this time I have received 41 responses. Some through the Pietenpol
net and some direct to me. I wasn't looking for a job but I sure got one.
I'm not computer literate, other otherwise, and I have all this info with not
the slightest idea as to how I should organize it in order to disseminate it
to you and other interested parties. I've heard the PC gurus talk about cut and
paste etc which I don't know how to do. Will one of you who is knowledgable
about this subject please sit down and give me some suggestions and
instructions. I would think that once I have it organized I could send it as one
document but I would think it best NOT to send it through the Piet matronics
list.
HELP
Corky
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Colin,
I'm not sure if you'll remember me, but you did a pre-buy on my yellow
GN-1 somewhere around October 2004 I believe. It was in Elkhart,
Indiana. I'm still flying it nearly 300 hours later, and have had no
problems with it...great plane. I think you flew your Long EZ down
there.
Small world. You'll love your Pietenpol, they are great planes. Keep
us informed. If you're ever down this way, send me an e-mail and I'll
give you a ride.
If you're interested in the history of Pietenpols, check out Chet
Peek's book, "The Pietenpol Story". It even has some pictures of my
plane and a little of my story in it.
http://www.threepeakspub.com/
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Do not archive
Quoting Koebel <ckoebel3@comcast.net>:
>
> Hi,
> Colin Koebel
> Clarendon Hills IL.
> Just starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse
> I have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor.
> Flying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a
> Cessna 170B.
> The piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too
> cold at the hanger (no Heat)
> And NO I don't have enough projects!
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| Subject: | tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol |
Although my Scott tailwheel is full castoring and the airplane has grab
handles on both sides of the tail, my hangar mate was a little uncomfortable
wheeling the airplane in and out of the hangar so he could get to his
airplane. So... I made a tailwheel dolly by copying a design that Jack Hart
came up with for his Firefly. Picture at
http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dolly.html
Works great.
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory |
Corky,
There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a
very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells.
This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you
don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If
you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is
515-225-7000.
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: |
Back in 97-98, started a short fuse Piet. Completed fuse on gear, all ribs,
complete tail, controls and panel with fresh A65.
At this point it went down to Shreveport and grew up to be NX41CC. A
terrific job completing and getting airborne by none other then
Corky. He's a master at anything he does and looking forward to seeing Blue
Boy with the Corkster at the controls.
Since the Piet, Ive restored, flown and sold 2 Ercoupes, 99621 & 94634.
Now pushing the big seven O, I own and fly a C150H
spam can....oh well
Joe Czaplicki
1915 Gideon Ave
Zion, IL 60099
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory |
I agree, Excel will probably be the easiest way to do it. It might be
good to convert it to a PDF, since some people might not have Excel,
but can get a PDF reader for free, and most people probably already
have them. Or, we could do a PDF & Excel.
I'll be glad to host the files if needed. Additionally, we could set
up a webpage with the information directly on the page. If anyone
thinks that is a good idea, I would be glad to do it. Just say so.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Quoting "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>:
> Corky,
>
> There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
> be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a
> very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells.
> This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you
> don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If
> you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is
> 515-225-7000.
>
> Jack Textor
>
> www.textors.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Douwe's info for list |
Douwe Blumberg
3175 hwy 467
DeMossville, KY 41033
cell (805) 573 3564
Model A, Jenny gear. Engine running on stand, plane covered, ready for
paint
90% done, 90% left to go.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Directory |
Skip Gadd
Hales Landing
WV (NE area of state by Ohio river)
Short/short fuse, started Aug 1991. Ribs, spars, tail feathers, wheels and l/g
complete. Fuselage needs sides and turtle deck, control system half complete.
Corvair power, "closed case" bought from WW. Hope to start working on the project
again this winter.
Flying Felix the GN-1 about 17 hours, A65, reconditioned metal prop 74 43. Cruz
almost 70 mph at 2150 rpm
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Corky,
I think your idea of some sort of a directory is a great idea. Here's
mine so there are at least two of us.
Arden Adamson
N1450 Spencer Lake Ct.
Waupaca, WI
long Pietenpol/Corvair
Fuselage 90% completed
Tail feather frames done
Building second set of ribs using Riblett airfoil (first set of
Pietenpol ribs for sale)
Building Jenny type wheel/landing gear
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory |
Steve,
You are my savior. The answer to my prayer this morning. Yes you may take
over. I have no earthly idea what you are talking about PDF etc so you see
someone will have to take the ball and run.
You can get many names, addresses and comments from the Pieten pol digests
of Sunday and Monday mornings. I'll edit and send those I have that are not on
those digests then we will notify all to send new listings to you. How does
that grab you?
Corky in Louisiana who has just been helped
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| Subject: | Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If the front
attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y'
shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see why
the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a prototype
'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need
something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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| Subject: | Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't
look like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common
before the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for
eliminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not
invent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid
30's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub,
a number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient"
designs from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had
parallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example.
There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol. Having
parallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and forth to
put the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not
impossible with the V-strut arrangement.
So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just don't
call it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce.
Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think
such a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like
a Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus
notti
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing
struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input.
I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt
on, but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
Gus,
Shame Shame on you- This morphidite strut arrangement might be OK
airworthiness wise, BUT it will never look like a genuine BHP Pietenpol Air Camper!
I
am very surprised anybody even would suggest such a thing. BHP is probably
rolling over in his grave. Please do not do this----- you will most
assuredly be the subject of ridicule.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
The origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood
fuselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed
for that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading
the load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is
overbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when
landing at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a
steel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm
no engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out
there that want to add to this?? Ed G.
>From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If
>the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be
>shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
> There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
>why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I
>have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on,
>but I need something more.................
> Bring it on!
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Richard&Kathryn Davis In Tok Alaska hers is a standard Piet and his is
the Aerial. Wing ribs for Piet&Aerial upper wings built metal
fittings done waiting to be primed. Engine for the Piet is 0235 OSMOH
engine for the Aerial is a Rotec R2800.0 time. We are a happy husband
and wife build team.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
George Reads Aircamper had flown well over 1,000 hours with the struts done
in a V arrangement. His plane is highly modified though. But that's the
whole idea about "homebuilding" isn't it?
Jim T.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G.
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
The origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood
fuselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed
for that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading
the load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is
overbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when
landing at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a
steel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm
no engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out
there that want to add to this?? Ed G.
>From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:21:16 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
>If
>the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be
>shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
> There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
>why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I
>have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on,
>but I need something more.................
> Bring it on!
>
> Thanks
>
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Directory |
Malcolm (Mac) Zirges
P.O. Box 938
Newport, OR 97365
Piet all framed up and looking for a place to assemble and rig. Have
ford engines but not yet modified for use.
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Glenn Thomas
49 Lynwood Rd.
Storrs, CT 06268
(860) 966-2856
http://www.flyingwood.com
Air Camper - Pietenpol Plans
Wing ribs done. Building jig for empennage.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Directory |
David Abramson Building 19 months short fuse, tail feathers done, ribs
done, fuse pretty much done. Working on the %@#&*#@ land gear (jenny style)
and building controls.
Just ordered a set on hinges from Vitalis Kapler (great Name!) Just bought
a c140 for flight training!
Building at Santa Maria public airport Ca.
Cheers!
Dave
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention something
said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I know". So I'm
starting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At least list
your name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you desire to
disclose more info thats your business. At least let it be known whether
you're yank, reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more than one
name during the next week I'll get the message.
Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a complete
Aeronca L-3 65TAC
625 Pierremont Rd Defender.
Shreveport, La 71106
2.
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| Subject: | Additional info: Pietenpol Directory |
Corky,
Here is some additional info in case you'd like to send us Christmas and
birthday gifts or gift cards and such.
Pizza: sausage & onion
Steak: Longhorn is good, medium.
Cigars: Oliva Series G, shorties
Malt: Macallan 12 year old is good
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| Subject: | Additional info: Pietenpol Directory |
John Walker Blue Label for me Corky...
Jack Textor
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/>
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Lynn & Kevin Knoll
8025 E. Morris
Wichita, KS
On the gear, control sticks, peddles,cables installed
Tail feathers built & control horns installed
No rags installed on anything yet
Ribs completed
William Wynne Corvair 75% completed
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Corky,
Dan Helsper
3043 Fairchild St.
Poplar Grove, IL., 61065
Cell 815 298 5680
BHP Aircamper 1933 Hoopman drawings. One-piece wing ready for cover.
Fuselage 70 % complete. Jenny gear. Model A Ford engine mounted, and I am
currently building-up. Using Ken Perkins dual mag drive and two Slick mags.
Aluminum head. Looking into alternative carburetors.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper) |
Jim Cooper
8040 LA Hwy 82
Youngsville, LA 70592
337-937-6116
My partner, Tom Schildt and I have been working on a GN-1 project we
bought about 5 years ago. It has an 85 HP Continental, 3 piece wing. and
4130 steel tubing fuselage. Say about 50% complete at the present time.
We only work on it an hour a week. A very enjoyable project for a
retired 80 year old, especially meeting the venerable Corky and his
wife, Isabelle. Soon will get to meet Wayne Poole, another Louisiana
builder.
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| Subject: | Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory |
Why you2h487454232425262322bjh2yankeeba25645345.
rebbie
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Hi Chris,
Yes, had about a two year hiatus due to being remarried but have gotten going again
now and having fun. I have enjoyed reading all your emails to the Piet site
and have visited your site several times. It is very valuable and thank you
for doing it.
How close are you to being ready to fly?
Jim
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| Subject: | Cap'n Corky's Piet List |
Pieters,
2004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires & coil
springs, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage in center section.
Yellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located @ 2J0 in Panacea, FL.
Stop by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old motorcycles,
or old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a BBQ joint at the
north end of runway 36.
Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved here from
elsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and stayed)
Dave Mordecai
Panacea, FL
850-984-4856
NX520SF
'74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er)
'67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike)
'2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale)
'85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k on it)
'78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's car (280k)
<html><body>
<DIV>Pieters,</DIV>
<DIV>2004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires &
coil springs, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage
in center section. Yellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located
@ 2J0 in Panacea, FL.</DIV>
<DIV>Stop by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old
motorcycles, or old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a
BBQ joint at the north end of runway 36.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved
here from elsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and
stayed)</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV>
<DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV>
<DIV>850-984-4856</DIV>
<DIV>NX520SF</DIV>
<DIV>'74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er)</DIV>
<DIV>'67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike)</DIV>
<DIV>'2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale)</DIV>
<DIV>'85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k
on it)</DIV>
<DIV>'78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's
car (280k)</DIV>
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Steve Singleton-Hale MO. Ribs built. Tail feathers almost.
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Chet & Cathy Hartley
200 Franklin St.
Holts Summit, MO 65043-2504
chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-896-5405
N920Y Built by Don Hicks - Flying with model A engine
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention
something said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I
know". So I'm starting with this e mail to create some sort of
directory. At least list your name, status of your aircraft, and city
and state. If you desire to disclose more info thats your business. At
least let it be known whether you're yank, reb, or californian type. If
this e mail has no more than one name during the next week I'll get the
message.
Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a
complete Aeronca L-3 65TAC
625 Pierremont Rd
Defender.
Shreveport, La 71106
2.
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Put me down also.
Dick Navratil
1415 Skiles Ln.
Arden Hills, Mn. 55112
NX2RN
short fuse / A-65 / flying
NX25RN
long fuse / Rotec R-2800 / painted N# on wings today -99% done, will be
taxi testing next month.
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Santiago & Sebastian Morete
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and
tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt.
Saludos
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Pregunt. Respond. Descubr.
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est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta).
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| Subject: | Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma |
Is anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on
flying in on Saturday.
_http://www.adaairexpo.com/_ (http://www.adaairexpo.com/)
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma |
I'd like to go, but my brother & sister in law will be here that weekend, so
it will depend on what they want to do. There is a chance we may fly to Ada
though. If so, we'll have to get together Chuck.
Steve
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Rcaprd@aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:47 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma
Is anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on
flying in on Saturday.
http://www.adaairexpo.com/
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
Have mercy Jack, a Piete ain't "looked like" a Piete since this first
edition took to the air. Everyone on this list is doing some sort of
mod to the Piete and they still have a right to call it a Piete or
anything else they please, suspect folks have been doing original
Pietenpol mods since the 30's, ie. 4130 steel instead of the tops of old
5 gal oil cans for tabs and such. I happen to have the "V" lift struts
but they're attached to a 4130 fuselage. Still think Bernard would be
proud to have his name attached to any open cockpit joy machine that
looks kinda like his original idea for a flying machine.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't
look like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common
before the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for
eliminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not
invent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid
30's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub,
a number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient"
designs from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had
parallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example.
There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol.
Having parallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and
forth to put the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not
impossible with the V-strut arrangement.
So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just
don't call it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce.
Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think
such a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like
a Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus
notti
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing
struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't
see why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any
input. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready
to bolt on, but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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