Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/12/07


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 04:40 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Derek Doyle)
     2. 06:16 AM - Re: Builder's/Owner's Directory (tbyh@aol.com)
     3. 10:05 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Michael Groah)
     4. 11:51 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Michael Groah)
     5. 12:20 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Terry Hall)
     6. 02:16 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Robert Gow)
     7. 03:17 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (walt evans)
     8. 03:24 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Robert Gow)
     9. 03:51 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
    10. 04:32 PM - Golden West EAA Flyin (Michael Groah)
    11. 05:45 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Steve Glass)
    12. 06:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Malcolm Morrison)
    13. 08:39 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Steve Ruse)
    14. 09:40 PM - Re: Golden West EAA Flyin (Catdesigns)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:40:36 AM PST US
    From: "Derek Doyle" <doylederek@eircom.net>
    Subject: re: Pietenpol Directory
    Derek Doyle Rathmuck Lane Kildare County Kildare Ireland Building from BHP plans, long fuse, three piece wing. Started July last year. Tail feathers ready for covering. Wing ribs finished. All woodwork on fuselage finished. Building wing centre section at the moment. The first and so far only Piet to be started in Ireland.


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    Time: 06:16:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Builder's/Owner's Directory
    From: tbyh@aol.com
    Directory Info Fred Beseler La Crosse, WI TBYH@aol.com Fuselage basically complete with seats, Ken Perkins sticks, bellcrank=C2-a nd other fittings installed. About=C2-to finally get=C2-the fuselage up on the Jenny-style landing gear (Harley Davidson aluminum disk wheels, Matco tailwheel)=C2-as soon as the steel tube axle material and tailwheel sprin g arrive from AS&S this week. I have a Model A Ford engine and an=C2-Ed St erba prop. Tail pieces are complete, wing ribs are from the late, great Char lie Rubeck. Already budget overruns -- i.e. I can build faster than the budg et allows! Could be at least a couple years yet before ready for the flight test program -- we've got one boy in college now and another that will be go ing in another year. There is a monthly barge full of our money that leaves La Crosse and goes up the Mississippi River to St. Mary's U at Winona, Minne sota! Worth every penny, of course!=C2-Hope to see everyone at Brodhead! Fred B. =C2- -----Original Message----- From: Pietenpol-List Digest Server <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 1:56 am Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 43 Msgs - 06/11/07 * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the wo Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted n HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes nd Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version f the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor uch as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html &Chapter 07-06-11&Archive=Pietenpol Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt& Chapter 07-06-11&Archive=Pietenpol ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/11/07: 43 ---------------------------------------------------------- oday's Message Index: --------------------- 1. 12:21 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson) 2. 12:25 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson) 3. 01:50 AM - Collection of information (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) 4. 03:22 AM - Re: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting (HelsperSew@aol.com) 5. 04:49 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Amsafetyc@aol.com) 6. 05:11 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 7. 05:37 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (John Egan) 8. 05:50 AM - Piet List (Koebel) 9. 06:17 AM - Elevator cables (Oscar Zuniga) 10. 06:20 AM - Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com) 11. 06:35 AM - Re: Piet List (Steve Ruse) 12. 06:52 AM - tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol (Oscar Zuniga) 13. 07:21 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Jack T. Textor) 14. 07:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: (Joseph Czaplicki) 15. 08:01 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Steve Ruse) 16. 08:22 AM - Douwe's info for list (Douwe Blumberg) 17. 08:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Skip Gadd) 18. 09:03 AM - name/address (Arden Adamson) 19. 09:40 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com) 20. 10:01 AM - Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (gus notti) 21. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Phillips, Jack ) 22. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? HelsperSew@aol.com) 23. 10:33 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Ed G.) 24. 10:48 AM - Name/Address (Richard and Kathryn Davis) 25. 11:00 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (James) 26. 11:11 AM - Pietenpol Directory (Mac Zirges) 27. 11:15 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Glenn W. Thomas) 28. 11:19 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Dave Abramson) 29. 12:42 PM - Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Cuy, Michael D. GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 30. 01:05 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Jack T. Textor) 31. 01:58 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Lynn Knoll) 32. 02:10 PM - Corky's list (HelsperSew@aol.com) 33. 02:39 PM - Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper) (Jim Cooper) 34. 02:48 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory Isablcorky@aol.com) 35. 04:13 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (jimboyer@hughes.net) 36. 06:15 PM - Cap'n Corky's Piet List (kmordecai001@comcast.net) 37. 06:59 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Steve Singleton) 38. 07:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Chet's Mail) 39. 07:29 PM - piet info (Dick Navratil) 40. 07:43 PM - Pietenpol Directory (santiago morete) 41. 07:47 PM - Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Rcaprd@aol.com) 42. 08:33 PM - Re: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Steve Ruse) 43. 09:40 PM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Gordon Bowen) _______________________________ Message 1 ________________________________ _____ ime: 12:21:20 AM PST US rom: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Clif Dawson ancouver, BC, Canada DAWSON5854@shaw.ca http://clifdawson.ca/ Fuselage almost complete. 36" centersection in progress. ail complete, on plane with controls and cables working. anding gear and tailwheel on plane. All local Hemlock and birch ply materials. Corvair engine in ieces. New, 40 over TRW pistons and cylinders presently n Brooks Alberta. I'm in the existing builder's directory And don't forget our rapper map, although it seems to be doing strange things ight now. http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol Clif ________________________________ Message 2 _______________________________ ______ ime: 12:25:45 AM PST US rom: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory A Colin Walker prop! He was a long time member of my AA chapter. He passed away not too long ago. Clif Graham J. Hansen Camrose, Alberta, Canada Pietenpol CF-AUN, flying since 1970. About 767 hrs. total time. ontinental C85 engine with Colin Walker 72 x 43 wooden propeller. ruises at 80 mph @ 2300 RPM. A real fun machine that has provided much njoyment for nearly 37 years. ________________________________ Message 3 _______________________________ ______ ime: 01:50:18 AM PST US rom: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Collection of information Corky.... ** Corky, make sure you put together a list of everyone and then make it vailable o we can print it. Kenneth M. Heide (Fargo Yankee) PO Box 1026 Hawley, MN (Western side of Minnesota along the North Dakota Boarder) 218-486-1963 H 701-793-3030 C Pietenpol Long Fuse 29" wide (starting on the standard gear legs) wing ribs done A-65 Continental (needs to be rebuilt) enneth M. Heide, BA,CPO,FAAOP -------------------------------- uilding a website is a piece of cake. ________________________________ Message 4 _______________________________ ______ ime: 03:22:33 AM PST US rom: HelsperSew@aol.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting Chris, did. Dan Helsper elsper Sewing Corp. 186 Commerce Dr. oves Park IL 61111 H (815) 885-4365 AX (815) 885-4366 ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _______________________________ ______ ime: 04:49:26 AM PST US ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory rom: Amsafetyc@aol.com ohn Recine, Lititz, Pa ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- rom: Isablcorky@aol.com To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory ohn, Would be helpful if you would include your last name and location CMC --------------- _______________________________ Message 6 ________________________________ _____ ime: 05:11:47 AM PST US rom: AMsafetyC@aol.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Certainly, Please add me to the list of current builders. John Recine 35 South Broad Street ititz, Pennsylvania 17-627-4901 AmSafetyc@aol.com_ (mailto:AmSafetyc@aol.com) ome Airfield; LNS eserved Tail: NX985BP roject start date: January 07 use: Long, yellow poplar idth: 27" Wide Glide use status, under construction ertical Stabilizer: Complete ing Ribs: Complete set purchased from Jack Textor onstruction site: Basement Activities include, Building my Piet and visiting other builders and Piet wners during my business travels. All have become part of the learning proc ess of build methods and innovations of improvement. Always willing to learn ne w echniques and old methods lost or forgotten from experienced woodworkers nd builders. No power plant as of yet, had one in process, the guy disappeared from the oards with no further discussion so I am still looking. At present would refer an 0235 but considering a Corvair and Subaru as close seconds all ontingent upon pricing and availability. ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _______________________________ ______ ime: 05:37:06 AM PST US rom: John Egan <johnegan99@yahoo.com> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieters live........ John Egan Greenville, Wisconsin johnegan99@yahoo.com Flying machine on straight axle landing gear. Recently installed torque tu be nd rudder bar. Wing struts are the next milestone, and I have a Corvair eng ine n pieces. I hope to fly some day. A special thanks to the very helpful list members. -------------------------------- :00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. ________________________________ Message 8 _______________________________ ______ ime: 05:50:36 AM PST US rom: Koebel <ckoebel3@comcast.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Piet List i, olin Koebel larendon Hills IL. ust starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor. lying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a essna 170B. he piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too old at the hanger (no Heat) nd NO I don't have enough projects! _______________________________ Message 9 ________________________________ _____ ime: 06:17:54 AM PST US rom: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator cables ick wrote- >I noticed that the upper elevator cables went through nylon fairleads on the outside of the fuselage which raised the cables. This is not shown on the original Hoopman drawings and is an unauthorized odification that may result in a dangerous airplane, unrecoverable flat pins, unconsciousness, or even death. Just kidding, of course ;o) DO NOT ARCHIVE Oscar Zuniga an Antonio, TX ailto: taildrags@hotmail.com ebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ ike puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. ttp://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 _______________________________ Message 10 _______________________________ _____ ime: 06:20:03 AM PST US rom: Isablcorky@aol.com ubject: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory Pieters, I'm somewhat surprised at the collective response to the directory info equest. As of this time I have received 41 responses. Some through the ietenpol net and some direct to me. I wasn't looking for a job but I sure got one. 'm not computer literate, other otherwise, and I have all this info with no t the slightest idea as to how I should organize it in order to disseminate it o you and other interested parties. I've heard the PC gurus talk about cut a nd paste etc which I don't know how to do. Will one of you who is knowledgable bout this subject please sit down and give me some suggestions and nstructions. I would think that once I have it organized I could send it as one document but I would think it best NOT to send it through the Piet matronics ist. ELP orky ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 11 ______________________________ ______ ime: 06:35:06 AM PST US rom: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet List olin, I'm not sure if you'll remember me, but you did a pre-buy on my yellow N-1 somewhere around October 2004 I believe. It was in Elkhart, ndiana. I'm still flying it nearly 300 hours later, and have had no roblems with it...great plane. I think you flew your Long EZ down here. Small world. You'll love your Pietenpol, they are great planes. Keep s informed. If you're ever down this way, send me an e-mail and I'll ive you a ride. If you're interested in the history of Pietenpols, check out Chet eek's book, "The Pietenpol Story". It even has some pictures of my lane and a little of my story in it. http://www.threepeakspub.com/ Steve Ruse orman, OK Do not archive Quoting Koebel <ckoebel3@comcast.net>: > Hi, Colin Koebel Clarendon Hills IL. Just starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse I have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor. Flying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a Cessna 170B. The piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too cold at the hanger (no Heat) And NO I don't have enough projects! _______________________________ Message 12 _______________________________ _____ ime: 06:52:13 AM PST US rom: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com> ubject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol lthough my Scott tailwheel is full castoring and the airplane has grab andles on both sides of the tail, my hangar mate was a little uncomfortable heeling the airplane in and out of the hangar so he could get to his irplane. So... I made a tailwheel dolly by copying a design that Jack Hart ame up with for his Firefly. Picture at ttp://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dolly.html Works great. Oscar Zuniga an Antonio, TX ailto: taildrags@hotmail.com ebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ ike puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. ttp://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 _______________________________ Message 13 _______________________________ _____ ime: 07:21:54 AM PST US ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory rom: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> Corky, There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would e to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a ery simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells. his way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you on't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If ou want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is 15-225-7000. Jack Textor www.textors.com _______________________________ Message 14 _______________________________ _____ ime: 07:22:28 AM PST US rom: "Joseph Czaplicki" <fishin3@earthlink.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: ack in 97-98, started a short fuse Piet. Completed fuse on gear, all ribs, omplete tail, controls and panel with fresh A65. t this point it went down to Shreveport and grew up to be NX41CC. A errific job completing and getting airborne by none other then orky. He's a master at anything he does and looking forward to seeing Blue oy with the Corkster at the controls. ince the Piet, Ive restored, flown and sold 2 Ercoupes, 99621 & 94634. ow pushing the big seven O, I own and fly a C150H pam can....oh well Joe Czaplicki 915 Gideon Ave ion, IL 60099 _______________________________ Message 15 _______________________________ _____ ime: 08:01:12 AM PST US rom: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory agree, Excel will probably be the easiest way to do it. It might be ood to convert it to a PDF, since some people might not have Excel, ut can get a PDF reader for free, and most people probably already ave them. Or, we could do a PDF & Excel. I'll be glad to host the files if needed. Additionally, we could set p a webpage with the information directly on the page. If anyone hinks that is a good idea, I would be glad to do it. Just say so. Steve Ruse orman, OK Quoting "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>: > Corky, There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells. This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is 515-225-7000. Jack Textor www.textors.com _______________________________ Message 16 _______________________________ _____ ime: 08:22:26 AM PST US rom: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's info for list Douwe Blumberg 175 hwy 467 eMossville, KY 41033 ell (805) 573 3564 Model A, Jenny gear. Engine running on stand, plane covered, ready for aint 0% done, 90% left to go. ________________________________ Message 17 ______________________________ ______ ime: 08:34:15 AM PST US rom: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Skip Gadd ales Landing V (NE area of state by Ohio river) Short/short fuse, started Aug 1991. Ribs, spars, tail feathers, wheels and l /g omplete. Fuselage needs sides and turtle deck, control system half complete. orvair power, "closed case" bought from WW. Hope to start working on the roject gain this winter. Flying Felix the GN-1 about 17 hours, A65, reconditioned metal prop 74 43. C ruz lmost 70 mph at 2150 rpm ________________________________ Message 18 ______________________________ ______ ime: 09:03:59 AM PST US ubject: Pietenpol-List: name/address rom: "Arden Adamson" <aadamson@wnmdag.org> orky, think your idea of some sort of a directory is a great idea. Here's ine so there are at least two of us. rden Adamson N1450 Spencer Lake Ct. Waupaca, WI ong Pietenpol/Corvair Fuselage 90% completed Tail feather frames done Building second set of ribs using Riblett airfoil (first set of ietenpol ribs for sale) Building Jenny type wheel/landing gear _______________________________ Message 19 _______________________________ _____ ime: 09:40:17 AM PST US rom: Isablcorky@aol.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory Steve, You are my savior. The answer to my prayer this morning. Yes you may take ver. I have no earthly idea what you are talking about PDF etc so you see omeone will have to take the ball and run. ou can get many names, addresses and comments from the Pieten pol digests f Sunday and Monday mornings. I'll edit and send those I have that are not o n those digests then we will notify all to send new listings to you. How does hat grab you? Corky in Louisiana who has just been helped ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 20 ______________________________ ______ ime: 10:01:14 AM PST US rom: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If th e ront ttach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y' haped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see wh y he Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a rototype Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need omething more................. Bring it on! Thanks -------------------------------- ooking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! areChase. ________________________________ Message 21 ______________________________ ______ ime: 10:26:57 AM PST US ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? rom: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't ook like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common efore the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for liminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not nvent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid 0's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub, number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient" esigns from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had arallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example. There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol. Having arallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and forth to ut the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not mpossible with the V-strut arrangement. So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just don't all it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce. Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think uch a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like Pietenpol. Jack Phillips X899JP _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus otti ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? 'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. f the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing truts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see hy the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt n, but I need something more................. ring it on! Thanks _____ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http://farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oD TFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20- with Yahoo! FareChase. ________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege , proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any ther use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 22 ______________________________ ______ ime: 10:26:57 AM PST US rom: HelsperSew@aol.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? Gus, Shame Shame on you- This morphidite strut arrangement might be OK irworthiness wise, BUT it will never look like a genuine BHP Pietenpol Air amper! m very surprised anybody even would suggest such a thing. BHP is probably olling over in his grave. Please do not do this----- you will most ssuredly be the subject of ridicule. Dan Helsper oplar Grove, IL. ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 23 ______________________________ ______ ime: 10:33:02 AM PST US rom: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? The origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood uselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed or that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading he load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is verbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when anding at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a teel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm o engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out here that want to add to this?? Ed G. From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need something more................. Bring it on! Thanks --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. _______________________________ Message 24 _______________________________ _____ ime: 10:48:31 AM PST US rom: "Richard and Kathryn Davis" <kbrooks@aptalaska.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Name/Address Richard&Kathryn Davis In Tok Alaska hers is a standard Piet and his is he Aerial. Wing ribs for Piet&Aerial upper wings built metal ittings done waiting to be primed. Engine for the Piet is 0235 OSMOH ngine for the Aerial is a Rotec R2800.0 time. We are a happy husband nd wife build team. ________________________________ Message 25 ______________________________ ______ ime: 11:00:41 AM PST US rom: "James" <jthursby@tampabay.rr.com> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? eorge Reads Aircamper had flown well over 1,000 hours with the struts done n a V arrangement. His plane is highly modified though. But that's the hole idea about "homebuilding" isn't it? Jim T. -----Original Message----- rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G. ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:33 PM ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? he origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood uselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed or that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading the load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is verbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when landing at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a teel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm o engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out here that want to add to this?? Ed G. From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see >why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need something more................. Bring it on! Thanks --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. _______________________________ Message 26 _______________________________ _____ ime: 11:11:51 AM PST US rom: "Mac Zirges" <macz@casco.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Malcolm (Mac) Zirges .O. Box 938 ewport, OR 97365 Piet all framed up and looking for a place to assemble and rig. Have ord engines but not yet modified for use. ________________________________ Message 27 ______________________________ ______ ime: 11:15:51 AM PST US ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory rom: "Glenn W. Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com> lenn Thomas 9 Lynwood Rd. torrs, CT 06268 860) 966-2856 ttp://www.flyingwood.com Air Camper - Pietenpol Plans ing ribs done. Building jig for empennage. _______________________________ Message 28 _______________________________ _____ ime: 11:19:46 AM PST US rom: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory David Abramson Building 19 months short fuse, tail feathers done, ribs one, fuse pretty much done. Working on the %@#&*#@ land gear (jenny style) nd building controls. ust ordered a set on hinges from Vitalis Kapler (great Name!) Just bought c140 for flight training! Building at Santa Maria public airport Ca. Cheers! Dave -----Original Message----- rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of sablcorky@aol.com ent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:35 PM ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention something aid or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I know". So I'm tarting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At least list our name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you desire to isclose more info thats your business. At least let it be known whether ou're yank, reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more than one ame during the next week I'll get the message. Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a complete eronca L-3 65TAC 25 Pierremont Rd Defender. hreveport, La 71106 2. _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . _______________________________ Message 29 _______________________________ _____ ime: 12:42:41 PM PST US ubject: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory rom: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> Corky, Here is some additional info in case you'd like to send us Christmas and irthday gifts or gift cards and such. Pizza: sausage & onion teak: Longhorn is good, medium. igars: Oliva Series G, shorties alt: Macallan 12 year old is good _______________________________ Message 30 _______________________________ _____ ime: 01:05:20 PM PST US ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory rom: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com> John Walker Blue Label for me Corky... Jack Textor www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/> do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ______________________________ ______ ime: 01:58:42 PM PST US rom: "Lynn Knoll" <dknoll@cox.net> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Lynn & Kevin Knoll 025 E. Morris ichita, KS n the gear, control sticks, peddles,cables installed ail feathers built & control horns installed o rags installed on anything yet ibs completed illiam Wynne Corvair 75% completed ________________________________ Message 32 ______________________________ ______ ime: 02:10:32 PM PST US rom: HelsperSew@aol.com ubject: Pietenpol-List: Corky's list Corky, Dan Helsper 043 Fairchild St. oplar Grove, IL., 61065 ell 815 298 5680 BHP Aircamper 1933 Hoopman drawings. One-piece wing ready for cover. uselage 70 % complete. Jenny gear. Model A Ford engine mounted, and I am urrently building-up. Using Ken Perkins dual mag drive and two Slick mags. luminum head. Looking into alternative carburetors. Dan Helsper oplar Grove, IL. ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 33 ______________________________ ______ ime: 02:39:32 PM PST US rom: "Jim Cooper" <blugoos1@hughes.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper) Jim Cooper 040 LA Hwy 82 oungsville, LA 70592 337-937-6116 My partner, Tom Schildt and I have been working on a GN-1 project we ought about 5 years ago. It has an 85 HP Continental, 3 piece wing. and 130 steel tubing fuselage. Say about 50% complete at the present time. e only work on it an hour a week. A very enjoyable project for a etired 80 year old, especially meeting the venerable Corky and his ife, Isabelle. Soon will get to meet Wayne Poole, another Louisiana uilder. ________________________________ Message 34 ______________________________ ______ ime: 02:48:39 PM PST US rom: Isablcorky@aol.com ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory Why you2h487454232425262322bjh2yankeeba25645345. ebbie ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 35 ______________________________ ______ ime: 04:13:27 PM PST US rom: "jimboyer@hughes.net" <jimboyer@hughes.net> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory i Chris, Yes, had about a two year hiatus due to being remarried but have gotten goin g gain ow and having fun. I have enjoyed reading all your emails to the Piet site nd have visited your site several times. It is very valuable and thank you or doing it. How close are you to being ready to fly? Jim ________________________________ Message 36 ______________________________ ______ ime: 06:15:59 PM PST US rom: kmordecai001@comcast.net ubject: Pietenpol-List: Cap'n Corky's Piet List Pieters, 004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires & co il prings, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage in center ection. ellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located @ 2J0 in Panacea, FL. top by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old motorcycl es, r old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a BBQ joint at th e orth end of runway 36. Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved here from lsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and stayed) Dave Mordecai anacea, FL 50-984-4856 X520SF 74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er) 67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike) 2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale) 85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k on it) 78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's car (280k) html><body> DIV>Pieters,</DIV> DIV>2004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires & oil springs, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage n center section. Yellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located 2J0 in Panacea, FL.</DIV> DIV>Stop by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old otorcycles, or old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a BQ joint at the north end of runway 36.</DIV> DIV> </DIV> DIV>Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved ere from elsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and tayed)</DIV> DIV> </DIV> DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV> DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV> DIV>850-984-4856</DIV> DIV>NX520SF</DIV> DIV>'74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er)</DIV> DIV>'67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike)</DIV> DIV>'2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale)</DIV> DIV>'85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k n it)</DIV> DIV>'78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's ar (280k)</DIV> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> /b></font></pre> ________________________________ Message 37 ______________________________ ______ ime: 06:59:54 PM PST US rom: "Steve Singleton" <slsingleton@cvalley.net> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory teve Singleton-Hale MO. Ribs built. Tail feathers almost. _______________________________ Message 38 _______________________________ _____ ime: 07:15:35 PM PST US rom: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Chet & Cathy Hartley 00 Franklin St. olts Summit, MO 65043-2504 chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-896-5405 N920Y Built by Don Hicks - Flying with model A engine ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention omething said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I now". So I'm starting with this e mail to create some sort of irectory. At least list your name, status of your aircraft, and city nd state. If you desire to disclose more info thats your business. At east let it be known whether you're yank, reb, or californian type. If his e mail has no more than one name during the next week I'll get the essage. Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a omplete Aeronca L-3 65TAC 625 Pierremont Rd efender. Shreveport, La 71106 2. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- See what's free at AOL.com. _______________________________ Message 39 _______________________________ _____ ime: 07:29:15 PM PST US rom: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net> ubject: Pietenpol-List: piet info Put me down also. ick Navratil 415 Skiles Ln. rden Hills, Mn. 55112 NX2RN hort fuse / A-65 / flying NX25RN ong fuse / Rotec R-2800 / painted N# on wings today -99% done, will be axi testing next month. ________________________________ Message 40 ______________________________ ______ ime: 07:43:32 PM PST US rom: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Santiago & Sebastian Morete Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing nd ail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt. Saludos -------------------------------- Pregunt. Respond. Descubr. Todo lo que queras saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ________________________________ Message 41 ______________________________ ______ ime: 07:47:28 PM PST US rom: Rcaprd@aol.com ubject: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma Is anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on lying in on Saturday. http://www.adaairexpo.com/_ (http://www.adaairexpo.com/) Chuck G. X770CG ************************************* See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 42 ______________________________ ______ ime: 08:33:32 PM PST US rom: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com> ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma I'd like to go, but my brother & sister in law will be here that weekend, so t will depend on what they want to do. There is a chance we may fly to Ada hough. If so, we'll have to get together Chuck. teve _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of caprd@aol.com ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:47 PM ubject: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma s anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on lying in on Saturday. http://www.adaairexpo.com/ huck G. NX770CG _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> . _______________________________ Message 43 _______________________________ _____ ime: 09:40:08 PM PST US rom: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net> ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? Have mercy Jack, a Piete ain't "looked like" a Piete since this first dition took to the air. Everyone on this list is doing some sort of od to the Piete and they still have a right to call it a Piete or nything else they please, suspect folks have been doing original ietenpol mods since the 30's, ie. 4130 steel instead of the tops of old gal oil cans for tabs and such. I happen to have the "V" lift struts ut they're attached to a 4130 fuselage. Still think Bernard would be roud to have his name attached to any open cockpit joy machine that ooks kinda like his original idea for a flying machine. ordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't ook like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common efore the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for liminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not nvent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid 0's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub, number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient" esigns from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had arallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example. There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol. aving parallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and orth to put the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not mpossible with the V-strut arrangement. So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just on't call it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce. Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think uch a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like Pietenpol. Jack Phillips NX899JP ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus otti Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. f the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing truts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't ee why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any nput. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready o bolt on, but I need something more................. Bring it on! Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with ahoo! 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    Time: 10:05:05 AM PST US
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Directory
    Michael Groah Tulare CA Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core. santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote: Santiago & Sebastian Morete Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt. Saludos --------------------------------- Pregunt. Respond. Descubr. Todo lo que queras saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.


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    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Directory
    Michael Groah Tulare CA Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core. santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote: Santiago & Sebastian Morete Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt. Saludos --------------------------------- Pregunt. Respond. Descubr. Todo lo que queras saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.


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    Time: 12:20:54 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Hall" <adaairport@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Directory
    Sky Scout project: Building fuselage, horizontal and vertical stabilizer, rudder and elevator. Most fuselage fittings built. Mounting tail skid, torque tube, and rudder bar. Terry Hall Ada, OK ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Groah To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Michael Groah Tulare CA Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core. santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote: Santiago & Sebastian Morete Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt. Saludos ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Pregunt=E1. Respond=E9. Descubr=ED. Todo lo que quer=EDas saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, est=E1 en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.


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    Time: 02:16:54 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Pietenpol Directory
    Robert Gow 1026 Victoria Street Midland Ontario Canada L4R 5C5 Ribs only so far, purchased from David Stephens. Want to build Ford powered (with modifications) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chet's Mail Sent: June 11, 2007 10:16 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Chet & Cathy Hartley 200 Franklin St. Holts Summit, MO 65043-2504 chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-896-5405 N920Y Built by Don Hicks - Flying with model A engine ----- Original Message ----- From: Isablcorky@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention something said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I know". So I'm starting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At least list your name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you desire to disclose more info thats your business. At least let it be known whether you're yank, reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more than one name during the next week I'll get the message. Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a complete Aeronca L-3 65TAC 625 Pierremont Rd Defender. Shreveport, La 71106 2. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See what's free at AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 03:17:08 PM PST US
    From: "walt evans" <waltdak@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
    Corky, Jack and all, Did anyone come to a final decision on the Piet directory. If not, the Excel spreadsheet that Jack posted will work. We can each fill it in, save it, and repost it. Next one grabs it,,, and on and on. For everyone not having Excel , maybe someone can import it to another common program for the others/everyone. As long as no one is doing something else,,,I'll get the ball rolling, Just someone say the word Walt Evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack T. Textor To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory Corky, There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells. This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is 515-225-7000. Jack Textor www.textors.com


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    Time: 03:24:40 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Gow" <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca>
    Subject: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
    For those who do not have Excel, simply create a text file using notepad with the items separated by commas. That can be exported into Excel. Or Access for that matter. Someone could crate an Access Database and deploy it as an executable so you would not need Access to use it . . . . Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of walt evans Sent: June 12, 2007 6:13 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? Corky, Jack and all, Did anyone come to a final decision on the Piet directory. If not, the Excel spreadsheet that Jack posted will work. We can each fill it in, save it, and repost it. Next one grabs it,,, and on and on. For everyone not having Excel , maybe someone can import it to another common program for the others/everyone. As long as no one is doing something else,,,I'll get the ball rolling, Just someone say the word Walt Evans NX140DL "No one ever learned anything by talking" ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack T. Textor To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory Corky, There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells. This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you dont have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is 515-225-7000. Jack Textor www.textors.com


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    Time: 03:51:56 PM PST US
    From: Isablcorky@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
    Walt, Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet list and some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to take this project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you Piets who know this computer language and techniques take it and run hard. I'll forward to you direct the names that were sent direct. That should make your list complete. Is this OK with you? From the response I think this list will help the Piet group become closer. Isabelle and I thank you Corky ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 04:32:43 PM PST US
    From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Golden West EAA Flyin
    Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in Marysville CA at the end of this month? I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two while i'm there! --------------------------------- Get your own web address.


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    Time: 05:45:09 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Glass" <redsglass@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Pietenpol Directory
    Steve Glass Jonesport Maine Probably eastern most piet builder in US. Just purchased a long fuselage and tail feathers project. Need to get going on wing ribs, leaning towards riblett. Great fun gleaning info from this list. Best regards Steve in Maine >From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT) > >Michael Groah > Tulare CA > > Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most >wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core. > > >santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote: > Santiago & Sebastian Morete > Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina > > Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece >wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being >rebuilt. > Saludos > >--------------------------------- > Pregunt. Respond. Descubr. >Todo lo que queras saber, y lo que ni imaginabas, >est en Yahoo! Respuestas (Beta). > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who >knows. >Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm


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    Time: 06:09:18 PM PST US
    From: "Malcolm Morrison" <morrisons5@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
    Gus I am building my "piet", or whatever I am allowed to call it, with a "V" strut that will attach to the traditional rear strut location on the fuselage. The airplane will also have a folding wing, ala Kitfox and many others allowing it to be stored in a 10 foot wide shed. Malcolm Morrison -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus notti Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached? There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need something more................. Bring it on! Thanks _____ Looking for a deal? Find <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47094/*http:/farechase.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDM TFicDJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-> great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.


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    Time: 08:39:59 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
    Subject: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
    Corky, Can you forward me the names you received directly? One at a time or all in one e-mail, whatever is easiest for you. I'll work on it when I have time.I should be able to get something pretty good put together in a few days. I'll start with Jack's Excel format, get most of the data in there, and then we can all argue about format, etc. Eventually I'll create an HTML page to post on the internet (unless someone objects to this). Steve Ruse Norman, OK _____ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Isablcorky@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? Walt, Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet list and some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to take this project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you Piets who know this computer language and techniques take it and run hard. I'll forward to you direct the names that were sent direct. That should make your list complete. Is this OK with you? From the response I think this list will help the Piet group become closer. Isabelle and I thank you Corky _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .


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    Time: 09:40:37 PM PST US
    From: "Catdesigns" <catdesigns@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Golden West EAA Flyin
    I'll be there on Saturday with my Pietenpol T-shirt on but that's probably not what you had in mind. Hopefully the guys from Georgetown will fly theirs in. I have only seen two there but that was a few years ago. Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Groah To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Golden West EAA Flyin Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in Marysville CA at the end of this month? I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two while i'm there! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through --> http://forums.matronics.com ===========




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