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1. 04:40 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Derek Doyle)
2. 06:16 AM - Re: Builder's/Owner's Directory (tbyh@aol.com)
3. 10:05 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Michael Groah)
4. 11:51 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Michael Groah)
5. 12:20 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Terry Hall)
6. 02:16 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Robert Gow)
7. 03:17 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (walt evans)
8. 03:24 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Robert Gow)
9. 03:51 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
10. 04:32 PM - Golden West EAA Flyin (Michael Groah)
11. 05:45 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Steve Glass)
12. 06:09 PM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Malcolm Morrison)
13. 08:39 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Steve Ruse)
14. 09:40 PM - Re: Golden West EAA Flyin (Catdesigns)
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Derek Doyle
Rathmuck Lane
Kildare
County Kildare
Ireland
Building from BHP plans, long fuse, three piece wing. Started July last
year. Tail feathers ready for covering. Wing ribs finished. All
woodwork on fuselage finished. Building wing centre section at the
moment. The first and so far only Piet to be started in Ireland.
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Directory Info
Fred Beseler
La Crosse, WI
TBYH@aol.com
Fuselage basically complete with seats, Ken Perkins sticks, bellcrank=C2-a
nd other fittings installed. About=C2-to finally get=C2-the fuselage up
on the Jenny-style landing gear (Harley Davidson aluminum disk wheels, Matco
tailwheel)=C2-as soon as the steel tube axle material and tailwheel sprin
g arrive from AS&S this week. I have a Model A Ford engine and an=C2-Ed St
erba prop. Tail pieces are complete, wing ribs are from the late, great Char
lie Rubeck. Already budget overruns -- i.e. I can build faster than the budg
et allows! Could be at least a couple years yet before ready for the flight
test program -- we've got one boy in college now and another that will be go
ing in another year. There is a monthly barge full of our money that leaves
La Crosse and goes up the Mississippi River to St. Mary's U at Winona, Minne
sota! Worth every penny, of course!=C2-Hope to see everyone at Brodhead!
Fred B. =C2-
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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson)
2. 12:25 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Clif Dawson)
3. 01:50 AM - Collection of information (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
4. 03:22 AM - Re: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting (HelsperSew@aol.com)
5. 04:49 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Amsafetyc@aol.com)
6. 05:11 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 05:37 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (John Egan)
8. 05:50 AM - Piet List (Koebel)
9. 06:17 AM - Elevator cables (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 06:20 AM - Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. 06:35 AM - Re: Piet List (Steve Ruse)
12. 06:52 AM - tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol (Oscar Zuniga)
13. 07:21 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Jack T. Textor)
14. 07:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: (Joseph Czaplicki)
15. 08:01 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Steve Ruse)
16. 08:22 AM - Douwe's info for list (Douwe Blumberg)
17. 08:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Skip Gadd)
18. 09:03 AM - name/address (Arden Adamson)
19. 09:40 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory (Isablcorky@aol.com)
20. 10:01 AM - Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (gus notti)
21. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Phillips, Jack
)
22. 10:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
HelsperSew@aol.com)
23. 10:33 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Ed G.)
24. 10:48 AM - Name/Address (Richard and Kathryn Davis)
25. 11:00 AM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (James)
26. 11:11 AM - Pietenpol Directory (Mac Zirges)
27. 11:15 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Glenn W. Thomas)
28. 11:19 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Dave Abramson)
29. 12:42 PM - Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Cuy, Michael D.
GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
30. 01:05 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory (Jack T. Textor)
31. 01:58 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Lynn Knoll)
32. 02:10 PM - Corky's list (HelsperSew@aol.com)
33. 02:39 PM - Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper) (Jim Cooper)
34. 02:48 PM - Re: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory
Isablcorky@aol.com)
35. 04:13 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (jimboyer@hughes.net)
36. 06:15 PM - Cap'n Corky's Piet List (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
37. 06:59 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Steve Singleton)
38. 07:15 PM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Chet's Mail)
39. 07:29 PM - piet info (Dick Navratil)
40. 07:43 PM - Pietenpol Directory (santiago morete)
41. 07:47 PM - Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Rcaprd@aol.com)
42. 08:33 PM - Re: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma (Steve Ruse)
43. 09:40 PM - Re: Pietenpol's wing strut design change? (Gordon Bowen)
_______________________________ Message 1 ________________________________
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ime: 12:21:20 AM PST US
rom: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Clif Dawson
ancouver, BC, Canada
DAWSON5854@shaw.ca
http://clifdawson.ca/
Fuselage almost complete. 36" centersection in progress.
ail complete, on plane with controls and cables working.
anding gear and tailwheel on plane.
All local Hemlock and birch ply materials. Corvair engine in
ieces. New, 40 over TRW pistons and cylinders presently
n Brooks Alberta.
I'm in the existing builder's directory And don't forget our
rapper map, although it seems to be doing strange things
ight now.
http://www.frappr.com/pietenpol
Clif
________________________________ Message 2 _______________________________
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ime: 12:25:45 AM PST US
rom: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
A Colin Walker prop! He was a long time member of my
AA chapter. He passed away not too long ago.
Clif
Graham J. Hansen
Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Pietenpol CF-AUN, flying since 1970. About 767 hrs. total time.
ontinental C85 engine with Colin Walker 72 x 43 wooden propeller.
ruises at 80 mph @ 2300 RPM. A real fun machine that has provided much
njoyment for nearly 37 years.
________________________________ Message 3 _______________________________
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ime: 01:50:18 AM PST US
rom: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" <kmheidecpo@yahoo.com>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Collection of information
Corky....
** Corky, make sure you put together a list of everyone and then make it
vailable
o we can print it.
Kenneth M. Heide (Fargo Yankee)
PO Box 1026
Hawley, MN (Western side of Minnesota along the North Dakota Boarder)
218-486-1963 H
701-793-3030 C
Pietenpol Long Fuse 29" wide (starting on the standard gear legs)
wing ribs done
A-65 Continental (needs to be rebuilt)
enneth M. Heide, BA,CPO,FAAOP
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uilding a website is a piece of cake.
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ime: 03:22:33 AM PST US
rom: HelsperSew@aol.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Wood Landing Gear Strut Fitting
Chris,
did.
Dan Helsper
elsper Sewing Corp.
186 Commerce Dr.
oves Park IL 61111
H (815) 885-4365
AX (815) 885-4366
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ime: 04:49:26 AM PST US
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
rom: Amsafetyc@aol.com
ohn Recine, Lititz, Pa
ent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
rom: Isablcorky@aol.com
To:pietenpol-list@matronics.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
ohn,
Would be helpful if you would include your last name and location
CMC
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ime: 05:11:47 AM PST US
rom: AMsafetyC@aol.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Certainly, Please add me to the list of current builders.
John Recine
35 South Broad Street
ititz, Pennsylvania
17-627-4901
AmSafetyc@aol.com_ (mailto:AmSafetyc@aol.com)
ome Airfield; LNS
eserved Tail: NX985BP
roject start date: January 07
use: Long, yellow poplar
idth: 27" Wide Glide
use status, under construction
ertical Stabilizer: Complete
ing Ribs: Complete set purchased from Jack Textor
onstruction site: Basement
Activities include, Building my Piet and visiting other builders and Piet
wners during my business travels. All have become part of the learning proc
ess
of build methods and innovations of improvement. Always willing to learn ne
w
echniques and old methods lost or forgotten from experienced woodworkers
nd builders.
No power plant as of yet, had one in process, the guy disappeared from the
oards with no further discussion so I am still looking. At present would
refer an 0235 but considering a Corvair and Subaru as close seconds all
ontingent upon pricing and availability.
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ime: 05:37:06 AM PST US
rom: John Egan <johnegan99@yahoo.com>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieters live........
John Egan
Greenville, Wisconsin
johnegan99@yahoo.com
Flying machine on straight axle landing gear. Recently installed torque tu
be
nd rudder bar. Wing struts are the next milestone, and I have a Corvair eng
ine
n pieces. I hope to fly some day.
A special thanks to the very helpful list members.
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ime: 05:50:36 AM PST US
rom: Koebel <ckoebel3@comcast.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Piet List
i,
olin Koebel
larendon Hills IL.
ust starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse
have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor.
lying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a
essna 170B.
he piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too
old at the hanger (no Heat)
nd NO I don't have enough projects!
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ime: 06:17:54 AM PST US
rom: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Elevator cables
ick wrote-
>I noticed that the upper elevator cables went through
nylon fairleads on the outside of the fuselage which raised the cables.
This is not shown on the original Hoopman drawings and is an unauthorized
odification that may result in a dangerous airplane, unrecoverable flat
pins, unconsciousness, or even death.
Just kidding, of course ;o) DO NOT ARCHIVE
Oscar Zuniga
an Antonio, TX
ailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
ebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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ime: 06:20:03 AM PST US
rom: Isablcorky@aol.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
Pieters,
I'm somewhat surprised at the collective response to the directory info
equest. As of this time I have received 41 responses. Some through the
ietenpol
net and some direct to me. I wasn't looking for a job but I sure got one.
'm not computer literate, other otherwise, and I have all this info with no
t
the slightest idea as to how I should organize it in order to disseminate it
o you and other interested parties. I've heard the PC gurus talk about cut a
nd
paste etc which I don't know how to do. Will one of you who is knowledgable
bout this subject please sit down and give me some suggestions and
nstructions. I would think that once I have it organized I could send it as
one
document but I would think it best NOT to send it through the Piet matronics
ist.
ELP
orky
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________________________________ Message 11 ______________________________
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ime: 06:35:06 AM PST US
rom: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Piet List
olin,
I'm not sure if you'll remember me, but you did a pre-buy on my yellow
N-1 somewhere around October 2004 I believe. It was in Elkhart,
ndiana. I'm still flying it nearly 300 hours later, and have had no
roblems with it...great plane. I think you flew your Long EZ down
here.
Small world. You'll love your Pietenpol, they are great planes. Keep
s informed. If you're ever down this way, send me an e-mail and I'll
ive you a ride.
If you're interested in the history of Pietenpols, check out Chet
eek's book, "The Pietenpol Story". It even has some pictures of my
lane and a little of my story in it.
http://www.threepeakspub.com/
Steve Ruse
orman, OK
Do not archive
Quoting Koebel <ckoebel3@comcast.net>:
>
Hi,
Colin Koebel
Clarendon Hills IL.
Just starting ribs, getting spruce for spars and fuse
I have a Corvair engine apart and a Ford Model B motor.
Flying a Long EZ that I build, Building a Wagabond and rebuilding a
Cessna 170B.
The piet is a winter project I work on in the basement when its too
cold at the hanger (no Heat)
And NO I don't have enough projects!
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ime: 06:52:13 AM PST US
rom: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel dolly for Pietenpol
lthough my Scott tailwheel is full castoring and the airplane has grab
andles on both sides of the tail, my hangar mate was a little uncomfortable
heeling the airplane in and out of the hangar so he could get to his
irplane. So... I made a tailwheel dolly by copying a design that Jack Hart
ame up with for his Firefly. Picture at
ttp://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/dolly.html
Works great.
Oscar Zuniga
an Antonio, TX
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ebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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ime: 07:21:54 AM PST US
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
rom: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
Corky,
There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
e to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a
ery simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells.
his way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you
on't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If
ou want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is
15-225-7000.
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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ime: 07:22:28 AM PST US
rom: "Joseph Czaplicki" <fishin3@earthlink.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: RE: Pietenpol-List Digest:
ack in 97-98, started a short fuse Piet. Completed fuse on gear, all ribs,
omplete tail, controls and panel with fresh A65.
t this point it went down to Shreveport and grew up to be NX41CC. A
errific job completing and getting airborne by none other then
orky. He's a master at anything he does and looking forward to seeing Blue
oy with the Corkster at the controls.
ince the Piet, Ive restored, flown and sold 2 Ercoupes, 99621 & 94634.
ow pushing the big seven O, I own and fly a C150H
pam can....oh well
Joe Czaplicki
915 Gideon Ave
ion, IL 60099
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ime: 08:01:12 AM PST US
rom: Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
agree, Excel will probably be the easiest way to do it. It might be
ood to convert it to a PDF, since some people might not have Excel,
ut can get a PDF reader for free, and most people probably already
ave them. Or, we could do a PDF & Excel.
I'll be glad to host the files if needed. Additionally, we could set
p a webpage with the information directly on the page. If anyone
hinks that is a good idea, I would be glad to do it. Just say so.
Steve Ruse
orman, OK
Quoting "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>:
> Corky,
There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a
very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells.
This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you
don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If
you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is
515-225-7000.
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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ime: 08:22:26 AM PST US
rom: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Douwe's info for list
Douwe Blumberg
175 hwy 467
eMossville, KY 41033
ell (805) 573 3564
Model A, Jenny gear. Engine running on stand, plane covered, ready for
aint
0% done, 90% left to go.
________________________________ Message 17 ______________________________
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ime: 08:34:15 AM PST US
rom: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Skip Gadd
ales Landing
V (NE area of state by Ohio river)
Short/short fuse, started Aug 1991. Ribs, spars, tail feathers, wheels and l
/g
omplete. Fuselage needs sides and turtle deck, control system half complete.
orvair power, "closed case" bought from WW. Hope to start working on the
roject
gain this winter.
Flying Felix the GN-1 about 17 hours, A65, reconditioned metal prop 74 43. C
ruz
lmost 70 mph at 2150 rpm
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ime: 09:03:59 AM PST US
ubject: Pietenpol-List: name/address
rom: "Arden Adamson" <aadamson@wnmdag.org>
orky,
think your idea of some sort of a directory is a great idea. Here's
ine so there are at least two of us.
rden Adamson
N1450 Spencer Lake Ct.
Waupaca, WI
ong Pietenpol/Corvair
Fuselage 90% completed
Tail feather frames done
Building second set of ribs using Riblett airfoil (first set of
ietenpol ribs for sale)
Building Jenny type wheel/landing gear
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ime: 09:40:17 AM PST US
rom: Isablcorky@aol.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
Steve,
You are my savior. The answer to my prayer this morning. Yes you may take
ver. I have no earthly idea what you are talking about PDF etc so you see
omeone will have to take the ball and run.
ou can get many names, addresses and comments from the Pieten pol digests
f Sunday and Monday mornings. I'll edit and send those I have that are not o
n
those digests then we will notify all to send new listings to you. How does
hat grab you?
Corky in Louisiana who has just been helped
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ime: 10:01:14 AM PST US
rom: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If th
e
ront
ttach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be shaped 'Y'
haped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see wh
y
he Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I have a
rototype
Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on, but I need
omething more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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ime: 10:26:57 AM PST US
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
rom: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't
ook like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common
efore the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for
liminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not
nvent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid
0's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub,
number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient"
esigns from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had
arallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example.
There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol. Having
arallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and forth to
ut the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not
mpossible with the V-strut arrangement.
So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just don't
all it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce.
Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think
uch a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like
Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
X899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus
otti
ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
f the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing
truts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
hy the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input.
have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt
n, but I need something more.................
ring it on!
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________________________________ Message 22 ______________________________
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ime: 10:26:57 AM PST US
rom: HelsperSew@aol.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
Gus,
Shame Shame on you- This morphidite strut arrangement might be OK
irworthiness wise, BUT it will never look like a genuine BHP Pietenpol Air
amper!
m very surprised anybody even would suggest such a thing. BHP is probably
olling over in his grave. Please do not do this----- you will most
ssuredly be the subject of ridicule.
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oplar Grove, IL.
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ime: 10:33:02 AM PST US
rom: "Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
The origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood
uselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed
or that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading
he load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is
verbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when
anding at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a
teel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm
o engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out
here that want to add to this?? Ed G.
From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid. If
the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be
shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I
have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on,
but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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ime: 10:48:31 AM PST US
rom: "Richard and Kathryn Davis" <kbrooks@aptalaska.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Name/Address
Richard&Kathryn Davis In Tok Alaska hers is a standard Piet and his is
he Aerial. Wing ribs for Piet&Aerial upper wings built metal
ittings done waiting to be primed. Engine for the Piet is 0235 OSMOH
ngine for the Aerial is a Rotec R2800.0 time. We are a happy husband
nd wife build team.
________________________________ Message 25 ______________________________
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ime: 11:00:41 AM PST US
rom: "James" <jthursby@tampabay.rr.com>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
eorge Reads Aircamper had flown well over 1,000 hours with the struts done
n a V arrangement. His plane is highly modified though. But that's the
hole idea about "homebuilding" isn't it?
Jim T.
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G.
ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 1:33 PM
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
he origional design spreads the lift loads across a wide area of the wood
uselage, essentially cradleing the fuselage and the fuselage is designed
or that loading through the V shape of the spruce fuselage struts spreading
the load through the plywood sides. Even though the Piet fuselage is
verbuilt consentrating the entire lift load and negative wing loadings when
landing at only one point is probably not a good idea. The kitfox has a
teel tube fuse that was origionally designed for this type of loading. I'm
o engineer but I would be a little leary of doing that. Any engineers out
here that want to add to this?? Ed G.
From: gus notti <gus_notti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
If
the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing struts be
shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
>why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input. I
have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt on,
but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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ime: 11:11:51 AM PST US
rom: "Mac Zirges" <macz@casco.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Malcolm (Mac) Zirges
.O. Box 938
ewport, OR 97365
Piet all framed up and looking for a place to assemble and rig. Have
ord engines but not yet modified for use.
________________________________ Message 27 ______________________________
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ime: 11:15:51 AM PST US
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
rom: "Glenn W. Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
lenn Thomas
9 Lynwood Rd.
torrs, CT 06268
860) 966-2856
ttp://www.flyingwood.com
Air Camper - Pietenpol Plans
ing ribs done. Building jig for empennage.
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ime: 11:19:46 AM PST US
rom: "Dave Abramson" <davea@symbolicdisplays.com>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
David Abramson Building 19 months short fuse, tail feathers done, ribs
one, fuse pretty much done. Working on the %@#&*#@ land gear (jenny style)
nd building controls.
ust ordered a set on hinges from Vitalis Kapler (great Name!) Just bought
c140 for flight training!
Building at Santa Maria public airport Ca.
Cheers!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
sablcorky@aol.com
ent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:35 PM
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention something
aid or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I know". So I'm
tarting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At least list
our name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you desire to
isclose more info thats your business. At least let it be known whether
ou're yank, reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more than one
ame during the next week I'll get the message.
Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a complete
eronca L-3 65TAC
25 Pierremont Rd Defender.
hreveport, La 71106
2.
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ime: 12:42:41 PM PST US
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory
rom: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
Corky,
Here is some additional info in case you'd like to send us Christmas and
irthday gifts or gift cards and such.
Pizza: sausage & onion
teak: Longhorn is good, medium.
igars: Oliva Series G, shorties
alt: Macallan 12 year old is good
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ime: 01:05:20 PM PST US
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory
rom: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
John Walker Blue Label for me Corky...
Jack Textor
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/>
do not archive
________________________________ Message 31 ______________________________
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ime: 01:58:42 PM PST US
rom: "Lynn Knoll" <dknoll@cox.net>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Lynn & Kevin Knoll
025 E. Morris
ichita, KS
n the gear, control sticks, peddles,cables installed
ail feathers built & control horns installed
o rags installed on anything yet
ibs completed
illiam Wynne Corvair 75% completed
________________________________ Message 32 ______________________________
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ime: 02:10:32 PM PST US
rom: HelsperSew@aol.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Corky's list
Corky,
Dan Helsper
043 Fairchild St.
oplar Grove, IL., 61065
ell 815 298 5680
BHP Aircamper 1933 Hoopman drawings. One-piece wing ready for cover.
uselage 70 % complete. Jenny gear. Model A Ford engine mounted, and I am
urrently building-up. Using Ken Perkins dual mag drive and two Slick mags.
luminum head. Looking into alternative carburetors.
Dan Helsper
oplar Grove, IL.
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________________________________ Message 33 ______________________________
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ime: 02:39:32 PM PST US
rom: "Jim Cooper" <blugoos1@hughes.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory (Jim Cooper)
Jim Cooper
040 LA Hwy 82
oungsville, LA 70592
337-937-6116
My partner, Tom Schildt and I have been working on a GN-1 project we
ought about 5 years ago. It has an 85 HP Continental, 3 piece wing. and
130 steel tubing fuselage. Say about 50% complete at the present time.
e only work on it an hour a week. A very enjoyable project for a
etired 80 year old, especially meeting the venerable Corky and his
ife, Isabelle. Soon will get to meet Wayne Poole, another Louisiana
uilder.
________________________________ Message 34 ______________________________
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ime: 02:48:39 PM PST US
rom: Isablcorky@aol.com
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Additional info: Pietenpol Directory
Why you2h487454232425262322bjh2yankeeba25645345.
ebbie
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________________________________ Message 35 ______________________________
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ime: 04:13:27 PM PST US
rom: "jimboyer@hughes.net" <jimboyer@hughes.net>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
i Chris,
Yes, had about a two year hiatus due to being remarried but have gotten goin
g
gain
ow and having fun. I have enjoyed reading all your emails to the Piet site
nd have visited your site several times. It is very valuable and thank you
or doing it.
How close are you to being ready to fly?
Jim
________________________________ Message 36 ______________________________
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ime: 06:15:59 PM PST US
rom: kmordecai001@comcast.net
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Cap'n Corky's Piet List
Pieters,
004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires & co
il
prings, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage in center
ection.
ellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located @ 2J0 in Panacea, FL.
top by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old motorcycl
es,
r old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a BBQ joint at th
e
orth end of runway 36.
Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved here
from
lsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and stayed)
Dave Mordecai
anacea, FL
50-984-4856
X520SF
74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er)
67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike)
2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale)
85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k on it)
78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's car (280k)
html><body>
DIV>Pieters,</DIV>
DIV>2004 long fuse crafted by John Ficklen, Cub-style gear w/ 8.00 x 6 tires
&
oil springs, 3 piece wing w/cutout for rear cockpit access & storage
n center section. Yellow tagged Cont. A-75 w/Hegy 72 x 42 Located
2J0 in Panacea, FL.</DIV>
DIV>Stop by & visit if you're in the area & want to talk/fly Piets, old
otorcycles, or old diesel "Benz. Plenty of fresh local seafood nearby & a
BQ joint at the north end of runway 36.</DIV>
DIV> </DIV>
DIV>Born & raised in Alabama, now a "typical Floridian" (someone who moved
ere from elsewhere) Wife is a "damyankee" (a yankee who moved here and
tayed)</DIV>
DIV> </DIV>
DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV>
DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV>
DIV>850-984-4856</DIV>
DIV>NX520SF</DIV>
DIV>'74 BMW R90s (160k miles....but many more left in 'er)</DIV>
DIV>'67 BMW R60/2 (for sale, fresh restoration, was wife's bike)</DIV>
DIV>'2005 Ducati 620i (the reason the BMW is for sale)</DIV>
DIV>'85 Mercedes 300SD my going to work car until I retire (only has 178k
n it)</DIV>
DIV>'78 Mercedes 300D my old going to work car, now the daughter's
ar (280k)</DIV>
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________________________________ Message 37 ______________________________
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ime: 06:59:54 PM PST US
rom: "Steve Singleton" <slsingleton@cvalley.net>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
teve Singleton-Hale MO. Ribs built. Tail feathers almost.
_______________________________ Message 38 _______________________________
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ime: 07:15:35 PM PST US
rom: "Chet's Mail" <Chethartley1@mchsi.com>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Chet & Cathy Hartley
00 Franklin St.
olts Summit, MO 65043-2504
chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-896-5405
N920Y Built by Don Hicks - Flying with model A engine
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention
omething said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I
now". So I'm starting with this e mail to create some sort of
irectory. At least list your name, status of your aircraft, and city
nd state. If you desire to disclose more info thats your business. At
east let it be known whether you're yank, reb, or californian type. If
his e mail has no more than one name during the next week I'll get the
essage.
Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a
omplete Aeronca L-3 65TAC
625 Pierremont Rd
efender.
Shreveport, La 71106
2.
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ime: 07:29:15 PM PST US
rom: "Dick Navratil" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: piet info
Put me down also.
ick Navratil
415 Skiles Ln.
rden Hills, Mn. 55112
NX2RN
hort fuse / A-65 / flying
NX25RN
ong fuse / Rotec R-2800 / painted N# on wings today -99% done, will be
axi testing next month.
________________________________ Message 40 ______________________________
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ime: 07:43:32 PM PST US
rom: santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar>
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Santiago & Sebastian Morete
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing
nd
ail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt.
Saludos
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________________________________ Message 41 ______________________________
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ime: 07:47:28 PM PST US
rom: Rcaprd@aol.com
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma
Is anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on
lying in on Saturday.
http://www.adaairexpo.com/_ (http://www.adaairexpo.com/)
Chuck G.
X770CG
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________________________________ Message 42 ______________________________
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ime: 08:33:32 PM PST US
rom: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
ubject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma
I'd like to go, but my brother & sister in law will be here that weekend, so
t will depend on what they want to do. There is a chance we may fly to Ada
hough. If so, we'll have to get together Chuck.
teve
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
caprd@aol.com
ent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:47 PM
ubject: Pietenpol-List: Ada Air Expo - Oklahoma
s anyone planning on going to Ada Ok this weekend ? I've been planning on
lying in on Saturday.
http://www.adaairexpo.com/
huck G.
NX770CG
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ime: 09:40:08 PM PST US
rom: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
ubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
Have mercy Jack, a Piete ain't "looked like" a Piete since this first
dition took to the air. Everyone on this list is doing some sort of
od to the Piete and they still have a right to call it a Piete or
nything else they please, suspect folks have been doing original
ietenpol mods since the 30's, ie. 4130 steel instead of the tops of old
gal oil cans for tabs and such. I happen to have the "V" lift struts
ut they're attached to a 4130 fuselage. Still think Bernard would be
roud to have his name attached to any open cockpit joy machine that
ooks kinda like his original idea for a flying machine.
ordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Phillips, Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
Gus, I would say the primary reason would be that it simply wouldn't
ook like a Pietenpol. The V arrangement of lift struts was not common
efore the mid '30's. It is a superior arrangement, allowing for
liminating the flying wires between the struts. Avid Flyer did not
nvent the arrangement - it showed up on a number of planes in the mid
0's, including the Piper J-3 Cub, its predeccesor, the Taylor E-2 Cub,
number of early Aeroncas, etc. Note that even "Highly efficient"
esigns from the late 1920's when the Pietenpol was designed, had
arallel lift struts. Look at the Spirit of St. Louis, for example.
There are advantages to the parallel lift struts on a Pietenpol.
aving parallel struts makes it very easy to shift the wing back and
orth to put the CG in the right place. This would be difficult if not
mpossible with the V-strut arrangement.
So you can change the lift strut arrangement if you desire. Just
on't call it a Pietenpol. Call it a Pober Pixie, or a Bakeng Deuce.
Sorry - not trying to inflame. You asked a good question, but I think
uch a change is pretty major and the result simply wouldn't "look" like
Pietenpol.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus
otti
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
f the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing
truts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't
ee why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any
nput. I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready
o bolt on, but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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Michael Groah
Tulare CA
Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most wing metal
fittings done. Looking for corvair core.
santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
Santiago & Sebastian Morete
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and
tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt.
Saludos
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Michael Groah
Tulare CA
Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most wing metal
fittings done. Looking for corvair core.
santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
Santiago & Sebastian Morete
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece wing and
tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being rebuilt.
Saludos
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Sky Scout project: Building fuselage, horizontal and vertical
stabilizer, rudder and elevator. Most fuselage fittings built. Mounting
tail skid, torque tube, and rudder bar.
Terry Hall
Ada, OK
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Groah
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Michael Groah
Tulare CA
Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most
wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core.
santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
Santiago & Sebastian Morete
Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One
piece wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine
being rebuilt.
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Robert Gow
1026 Victoria Street
Midland Ontario Canada
L4R 5C5
Ribs only so far, purchased from David Stephens. Want to build Ford powered
(with modifications)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chet's Mail
Sent: June 11, 2007 10:16 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Chet & Cathy Hartley
200 Franklin St.
Holts Summit, MO 65043-2504
chethartley1@mchsi.com 573-896-5405
N920Y Built by Don Hicks - Flying with model A engine
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 5:34 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention
something said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I
know". So I'm starting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At
least list your name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you
desire to disclose more info thats your business. At least let it be known
whether you're yank, reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more
than one name during the next week I'll get the message.
Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a
complete Aeronca L-3 65TAC
625 Pierremont Rd Defender.
Shreveport, La 71106
2.
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Corky, Jack and all,
Did anyone come to a final decision on the Piet directory.
If not, the Excel spreadsheet that Jack posted will work.
We can each fill it in, save it, and repost it. Next one grabs it,,, and
on and on.
For everyone not having Excel , maybe someone can import it to another
common program for the others/everyone.
As long as no one is doing something else,,,I'll get the ball rolling,
Just someone say the word
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
Corky,
There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a
very simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells.
This way it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you
don't have Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If
you want to call me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is
515-225-7000.
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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For those who do not have Excel, simply create a text file using notepad
with the items separated by commas. That can be exported into Excel. Or
Access for that matter. Someone could crate an Access Database and deploy
it as an executable so you would not need Access to use it . . . .
Bob
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of walt evans
Sent: June 12, 2007 6:13 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
Corky, Jack and all,
Did anyone come to a final decision on the Piet directory.
If not, the Excel spreadsheet that Jack posted will work.
We can each fill it in, save it, and repost it. Next one grabs it,,, and
on and on.
For everyone not having Excel , maybe someone can import it to another
common program for the others/everyone.
As long as no one is doing something else,,,I'll get the ball rolling,
Just someone say the word
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory
Corky,
There are many ways to do it. Probably the easiest and best way would
be to input the information into an Excel spreadsheet. I attached a very
simple worksheet which places the information in 9 separate cells. This way
it can be manipulated and printed many different ways. If you dont have
Excel let me know and we can figure something else out. If you want to call
me to assist with cut and paste, my work number is 515-225-7000.
Jack Textor
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Walt,
Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet list and
some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to take this
project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you Piets who know this
computer language and techniques take it and run hard. I'll forward to you
direct the names that were sent direct. That should make your list complete. Is
this OK with you? From the response I think this list will help the Piet group
become closer. Isabelle and I thank you
Corky
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| Subject: | Golden West EAA Flyin |
Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in Marysville CA
at the end of this month?
I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two while i'm there!
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Directory |
Steve Glass
Jonesport Maine
Probably eastern most piet builder in US.
Just purchased a long fuselage and tail feathers project. Need to get going
on wing ribs, leaning towards riblett. Great fun gleaning info from this
list.
Best regards
Steve in Maine
>From: Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:51:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Michael Groah
> Tulare CA
>
> Building ribs, center section of three piece wing mostly done, most
>wing metal fittings done. Looking for corvair core.
>
>
>santiago morete <moretesantiago@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
> Santiago & Sebastian Morete
> Santa Rosa, La Pampa, Argentina
>
> Long fuselage, working on tail and main wheels (Jenny gear). One piece
>wing and tail feathers completed but not covered. Ford A engine being
>rebuilt.
> Saludos
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpol's wing strut design change? |
Gus
I am building my "piet", or whatever I am allowed to call it, with a "V"
strut that will attach to the traditional rear strut location on the
fuselage. The airplane will also have a folding wing, ala Kitfox and
many others allowing it to be stored in a 10 foot wide shed.
Malcolm Morrison
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gus
notti
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 12:21 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol's wing strut design change?
I'm wondering why can't the wing struts be like them of a Kitfox/Avid.
If the front attach point is strong 'BEEFED' up why can't the wing
struts be shaped 'Y' shaped with the front and back jury strut attached?
There are several kit planes flying with this configuration, I don't see
why the Piet would be any different? I'm looking for all and any input.
I have a prototype 'Y' strut design I have completed, it's ready to bolt
on, but I need something more.................
Bring it on!
Thanks
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Corky,
Can you forward me the names you received directly? One at a time or all in
one e-mail, whatever is easiest for you.
I'll work on it when I have time.I should be able to get something pretty
good put together in a few days. I'll start with Jack's Excel format, get
most of the data in there, and then we can all argue about format, etc.
Eventually I'll create an HTML page to post on the internet (unless someone
objects to this).
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Isablcorky@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
Walt,
Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet list and
some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to take this
project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you Piets who know
this computer language and techniques take it and run hard. I'll forward to
you direct the names that were sent direct. That should make your list
complete. Is this OK with you? From the response I think this list will help
the Piet group become closer. Isabelle and I thank you
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Golden West EAA Flyin |
I'll be there on Saturday with my Pietenpol T-shirt on but that's
probably not what you had in mind. Hopefully the guys from Georgetown
will fly theirs in. I have only seen two there but that was a few years
ago.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Groah
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Golden West EAA Flyin
Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in
Marysville CA at the end of this month?
I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two
while i'm there!
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