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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Golden West EAA Flyin (Michael Groah)
2. 12:31 AM - Re: Golden West EAA Flyin (Michael Groah)
3. 04:09 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (GlennThomas@flyingwood.com)
4. 05:32 AM - Re: Pietenpol Directory (Scott Knowlton)
5. 05:37 AM - Sky Scout (Oscar Zuniga)
6. 05:54 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Isablcorky@aol.com)
7. 06:17 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Glenn W. Thomas)
8. 06:36 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: Pietenpol Directory (Dan Loegering)
9. 07:24 AM - Re: Elevator cables (Rick Holland)
10. 07:39 AM - Re: Elevator cables (Phillips, Jack)
11. 07:40 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Jack T. Textor)
12. 07:47 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Glenn W. Thomas)
13. 09:51 AM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (jimboyer@hughes.net)
14. 01:33 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (walt evans)
15. 03:54 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (walt evans)
16. 05:38 PM - Re: Sky Scout (Chet's Mail)
17. 07:36 PM - Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? (Rick Holland)
18. 08:08 PM - Re: piet info (Rick Holland)
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| Subject: | Re: Golden West EAA Flyin |
No, that's not really what I had in mind but if I see a pietenpol shirt I'll have
to say hello.
Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net> wrote: I'll be there on Saturday with
my Pietenpol T-shirt on but that's probably not what you had in mind. Hopefully
the guys from Georgetown will fly theirs in. I have only seen two there
but that was a few years ago.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Groah
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Golden West EAA Flyin
Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in Marysville CA
at the end of this month?
I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two while i'm there!
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| Subject: | Re: Golden West EAA Flyin |
No, that's not really what I had in mind but if I see a pietenpol shirt I'll have
to say hello.
Catdesigns <catdesigns@comcast.net> wrote: I'll be there on Saturday with
my Pietenpol T-shirt on but that's probably not what you had in mind. Hopefully
the guys from Georgetown will fly theirs in. I have only seen two there
but that was a few years ago.
Chris Tracy
Sacramento, Ca
Website at http://www.Westcoastpiet.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Groah
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Golden West EAA Flyin
Are there any Piets attending the Golden West EAA flyin/airshow in Marysville CA
at the end of this month?
I'm planning on going that Sat. and I'd love to see a Piet or two while i'm there!
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Corky,
I think I have something that will work here. If you have a file that
you pass around you will eventually run into a situation where 2 or more
people open it and whoever saves it last is the only one who will show
up. There is also the problem of how to keep it somewhere so that
everybody can get at it. I just make a section on my website. If you
go to the site on the home page on the upper left there is a Community
Links section. The top link is to the Piet Directory. I started it off
with myself. There is an online form that people can use to enter as
much info as they feel comfortable doing. As entries are made the
information is stored in a database that fills the directory page and
sorts it by last name. I think this might be the easiest way to put the
directory together and keep it alive.
This will take you straight into the directory...
http://www.flyingwood.com/directory.asp
I'll help enter info if you're interested in using it. It wasn't
difficult to make and I can change it if necessary.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
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From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
Walt,
Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet list
and some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to take
this project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you Piets
who know this computer language and techniques take it and run hard.
I'll forward to you direct the names that were sent direct. That should
make your list complete. Is this OK with you? From the response I think
this list will help the Piet group become closer. Isabelle and I thank
you
Corky
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Directory |
Scott Knowlton
Burlington Ontario Canada
Corvair Powered Long Fuselage Pietenpol
Early stages of construction. Most ribs built, starting on tail group.
Bunch of 4130 steel and AN hardware for the fittings. Have a suiteable
corvair engine core that I purchased locally. I was making good progress
this winter until our baby-sitter drove her parents car through my garage
door!!! Made my workshop a little drafty.
>From: Isablcorky@aol.com
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Directory
>Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 18:34:47 EDT
>
>Isabelle frequently asks where some Pieter lives when I mention something
>said or done on this list. I always have to say, " dang if I know". So I'm
>starting with this e mail to create some sort of directory. At least list
>your
>name, status of your aircraft, and city and state. If you desire to
>disclose
>more info thats your business. At least let it be known whether you're
>yank,
>reb, or californian type. If this e mail has no more than one name during
>the
>next week I'll get the message.
>
>Claude M Corbett, "Corky" "Nathan" "Levi" Refurbishing a
>complete
>Aeronca L-3 65TAC
>625 Pierremont Rd Defender.
>
>Shreveport, La 71106
>
>2.
>
>
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My friend Mark Langford from the KRNet and CorvAircraft lists made it to the
fly-in at Alliance and stopped at the Lee Bottom field on his way back to
his home field in Alabama. His pictures from Alliance included some of
Frank Pavliga's "Sky Gypsy" ( http://krnet.org/alliance2007/ ).
Mark spent some time in Australia a few weeks ago and sent this bit of
information:
>Speaking of famous Piets, did I tell you about the original Piet "Scout"
>that I saw in OZ? The data plate said Bernie himself built it, serial
>number 1. Burt, the current owner, bought it from the EAA museum,
>and is flying it regularly...
Which probably makes it not only the oldest, but the southmost Sky Scout in
the world ? ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
NX41CC putting time on the tach
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Thanks Glenn
But it's too late for me to learn new tricks. Steve Ruse and Walt Evans have
both taken over the builder's directory, so called, and will see it through
to everyone's satisfaction and that I'll be able to tell Isabelle where "ole
Joe" lives. Thanks to all on the list for such an overwhelmning response.
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Steve/Walt
You guys can feel free to use this too. I just thought that going forward
it would make it easy for anyone to add themselves to a directory without
creating work for anybody. Also don't have to worry about all the
different versions of a file floating around. I can dump the directory to
a spreadsheet or .pdf on a regular basis too. ...and I am willing to help
enter all the directory info that popped up on the forum.
Not trying to take over the process. Just trying to help make this as
easy and convenient for all that seem to value having a directory.
Another idea I had (however corny it might sound) if people think it would
be good to have a picture of themselves with their directory listing, it
would really make it nice for us to identify each other at Brodhead. Last
year there would a lot of people that I didn't ever find out who they were
but in the days after, learned that a lot of them were there. This would
help us find each other.
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| Subject: | RE: Pietenpol-List Digest: Pietenpol Directory |
Dan Loegering
Fargo, North Dakota
Long fuse wood work 90% complete. Ribs done, tail surfaces done, metal for fittings
purchased, Jenny style gear. Waiting for wood for gear and wire wheels
to arrive. Continental A-65-8 purchased but needing overhaul (good winter project).
One of three projects being actively built in this area (Ken Heide and
Doug Isaacson are the other local builders)
Lots of fun for the last two years - with other local projects going on, we have
been sharing jigs and ideas, and maybe a root-beer on those late nights in the
shop.
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator cables |
Now hold your horses there Oscar, their is only room on this newsgroup for
one "Build it to the plans or you will die" wise-ass, and that wise-ass is
me.
On the other hand maybe it will spice things up to have two of us.
Kidding again also ;)
Rick
On 6/11/07, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> Rick wrote-
>
> >I noticed that the upper elevator cables went through
> >nylon fairleads on the outside of the fuselage which raised the cables.
>
> This is not shown on the original Hoopman drawings and is an unauthorized
> modification that may result in a dangerous airplane, unrecoverable flat
> spins, unconsciousness, or even death.
>
> Just kidding, of course ;o) DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Well, whatever you do, don't put V-struts on it. I guess I touched a
nerve with those comments. Sorry guys - didn't mean to. Lord knows I
made enough modifications to the design on mine (wider fuselage, wider
centersection, brakes, tailwheel, blasphemous Continental engine, etc.)
Jack "Open to all Modifications" Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Elevator cables
Now hold your horses there Oscar, their is only room on this newsgroup
for one "Build it to the plans or you will die" wise-ass, and that
wise-ass is me.
On the other hand maybe it will spice things up to have two of us.
Kidding again also ;)
Rick
On 6/11/07, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
taildrags@hotmail.com <mailto:taildrags@hotmail.com> >
Rick wrote-
>I noticed that the upper elevator cables went through
>nylon fairleads on the outside of the fuselage which raised the
cables.
This is not shown on the original Hoopman drawings and is an
unauthorized
modification that may result in a dangerous airplane,
unrecoverable flat
spins, unconsciousness, or even death.
Just kidding, of course ;o) DO NOT ARCHIVE
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Glenn,
Nice idea! Is there a way after the list is completed you can dump it
to an Excel file?
Thanks,
Jack
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| Subject: | Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Yes,
I was thinking of doing that and adding the file as a link once a
week/month so you can keep it handy. Can also add different sorts to the
page so you can find people by state too.
On Wed, June 13, 2007 9:41 am, Jack T. Textor wrote:
> Glenn,
>
>
> Nice idea! Is there a way after the list is completed you can dump it
> to an Excel file?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jack
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Great directory setup Glenn, thank you. Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Glen,
I think your way seems best, I'll go there and enter my stuff right now.
Thanks Glenn
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: GlennThomas@flyingwood.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
Corky,
I think I have something that will work here. If you have a file that
you pass around you will eventually run into a situation where 2 or more
people open it and whoever saves it last is the only one who will show
up. There is also the problem of how to keep it somewhere so that
everybody can get at it. I just make a section on my website. If you
go to the site on the home page on the upper left there is a Community
Links section. The top link is to the Piet Directory. I started it off
with myself. There is an online form that people can use to enter as
much info as they feel comfortable doing. As entries are made the
information is stored in a database that fills the directory page and
sorts it by last name. I think this might be the easiest way to put the
directory together and keep it alive.
This will take you straight into the directory...
http://www.flyingwood.com/directory.asp
I'll help enter info if you're interested in using it. It wasn't
difficult to make and I can change it if necessary.
Glenn W. Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Isablcorky@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final
decision?
Walt,
Am still receiving these Piet builders reports, some on the Piet
list and some direct to me. Steve Ruse yesterday morning volunteered to
take this project and run but I haven't heard from him since. So, you
Piets who know this computer language and techniques take it and run
hard. I'll forward to you direct the names that were sent direct. That
should make your list complete. Is this OK with you? From the response I
think this list will help the Piet group become closer. Isabelle and I
thank you
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Glenn,
Put my stuff in. Easy as pie.
Just a suggestion, that you put an entry for final empty weight.
When I built, had my Mentor hammering into my head not to add anything
extra. So I'm kind of proud of my empty weight. (with about 2 changes, off
hand, and the rest right to the plans) 1.7/1.8 oz fabric and PolyFiber.
Long fuse, A-65, split gear, big wheels, 3 piece wing,, 595# empty wt.
It climbs like a rocket.
When I get back in the J-3 Cub for a BFR, it seems like it won't go up.
Ain't Life Grand!
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn W. Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
> <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
>
> Steve/Walt
> You guys can feel free to use this too. I just thought that going forward
> it would make it easy for anyone to add themselves to a directory without
> creating work for anybody. Also don't have to worry about all the
> different versions of a file floating around. I can dump the directory to
> a spreadsheet or .pdf on a regular basis too. ...and I am willing to help
> enter all the directory info that popped up on the forum.
>
> Not trying to take over the process. Just trying to help make this as
> easy and convenient for all that seem to value having a directory.
> Another idea I had (however corny it might sound) if people think it would
> be good to have a picture of themselves with their directory listing, it
> would really make it nice for us to identify each other at Brodhead. Last
> year there would a lot of people that I didn't ever find out who they were
> but in the days after, learned that a lot of them were there. This would
> help us find each other.
>
>
>
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Great job on the Photo's.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:37 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout
> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
> My friend Mark Langford from the KRNet and CorvAircraft lists made it to
> the fly-in at Alliance and stopped at the Lee Bottom field on his way back
> to his home field in Alabama. His pictures from Alliance included some of
> Frank Pavliga's "Sky Gypsy" ( http://krnet.org/alliance2007/ ).
>
> Mark spent some time in Australia a few weeks ago and sent this bit of
> information:
>
>>Speaking of famous Piets, did I tell you about the original Piet "Scout"
>>that I saw in OZ? The data plate said Bernie himself built it, serial
>>number 1. Burt, the current owner, bought it from the EAA museum,
>>and is flying it regularly...
>
> Which probably makes it not only the oldest, but the southmost Sky Scout
> in the world ? ;o)
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> NX41CC putting time on the tach
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: Update on Piet Directory-final decision? |
Nice work Walt, shows that the long fuselage and three piece wing provide a
minimal weight penalty. I plan on using the 1.7 fabric also and latex paint
which may end up lighter than the Polyfiber stuff, but with a Corvair engine
and wider fuselage I am hoping to be something under 700.
Rick
On 6/13/07, walt evans <waltdak@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> Glenn,
> Put my stuff in. Easy as pie.
> Just a suggestion, that you put an entry for final empty weight.
> When I built, had my Mentor hammering into my head not to add anything
> extra. So I'm kind of proud of my empty weight. (with about 2 changes, off
> hand, and the rest right to the plans) 1.7/1.8 oz fabric and PolyFiber.
> Long fuse, A-65, split gear, big wheels, 3 piece wing,, 595# empty
> wt.
> It climbs like a rocket.
> When I get back in the J-3 Cub for a BFR, it seems like it won't go up.
> Ain't Life Grand!
> Walt Evans
> NX140DL
>
>
> "No one ever learned anything by talking"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn W. Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Update on Piet Directory-final decision?
>
>
> > <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
> >
> > Steve/Walt
> > You guys can feel free to use this too. I just thought that going
> forward
> > it would make it easy for anyone to add themselves to a directory
> without
> > creating work for anybody. Also don't have to worry about all the
> > different versions of a file floating around. I can dump the directory
> to
> > a spreadsheet or .pdf on a regular basis too. ...and I am willing to
> help
> > enter all the directory info that popped up on the forum.
> >
> > Not trying to take over the process. Just trying to help make this as
> > easy and convenient for all that seem to value having a directory.
> > Another idea I had (however corny it might sound) if people think it
> would
> > be good to have a picture of themselves with their directory listing, it
> > would really make it nice for us to identify each other at
> Brodhead. Last
> > year there would a lot of people that I didn't ever find out who they
> were
> > but in the days after, learned that a lot of them were there. This
> would
> > help us find each other.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Think you can taxi it all the way to Broadhead Dick?
Rick
NX25RN
> long fuse / Rotec R-2800 / painted N# on wings today -99% done, will be
> taxi testing next month.
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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