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1. 07:13 AM - Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp (shad bell)
2. 08:28 AM - Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI (Gene & Tammy)
3. 09:27 AM - Re: piet building (Rick Holland)
4. 09:27 AM - Pietenpol at SWRFI (Oscar Zuniga)
5. 11:57 AM - Re: Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp (del magsam)
6. 12:01 PM - Re: piet building, and Corvairs (del magsam)
7. 12:03 PM - Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI (Isablcorky@aol.com)
8. 05:31 PM - Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Tim Verthein)
9. 08:12 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Steve Ruse)
10. 08:36 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Dick Navratil)
11. 09:12 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (gcardinal)
12. 10:21 PM - Cost to build your completed Pietenpol and other questions (Greg Heath)
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| Subject: | Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp |
Hello Guys, This morning 92GB flew again. I cut the flight short due to high oil
temp, 260 F. We did not have this problem with the old engine, at least not
that hot. I think it is because we had the Oil Bath Intake last time. The
oil jacket helped cool the oil with the cold air going through the intake. I
know I have heard of others on here with simmilar problems, What solved them?
We are already using the 12 plate (the bigger one) cooler. I guess we could
try silicon on all the seams in the baffling, But would like to try to avoid cutting
the cowling open too much at the bottom. It was good to fly again after
10 months. She climbs right out at 60mph and about 1000 ft/min, and that is
a shallow climb. I will spend some time today tinkering with it and maby find
something out. I'll have to try to figure it out with out dad today, he has
to go out of town for work, but any advise you Corvair guys have would be appreciated.
(Notice I said Corvair Guys, Ford guy's
advise would be put a Model A on it, ha ha ha just kidding).
Shad
P.S. Is anyone going to The Waco fly in at Wyncoop next week?
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI |
Congratulations Hans!! I know that must be a great feeling after
putting all the hours into her.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: HVandervoo@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; dms180@houston.rr.com ;
gmorton36@hughes.net ; corvaircraft@mylist.net
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol at SWRFI
Just found out; My Pietenpol won the Best of Show Homebuilt at Hondo
this year.
Very surprised since I only spend a total of 1 1/2 hours at the show
on Friday.
Hans
NX15KV
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| Subject: | Re: piet building |
Gardiner - our Piets will be almost identical, long and 26 inch wide fuse, 3
piece wing, corvair engine, we even paint them the same color. Maybe we are
identical twins separated at birth or something.
Rick
On 6/16/07, Gardiner Mason <airlion@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> my piet has been signed off for covering but I want to attach the wings
> to check the CG first. That will be next month sometimes. At the present I
> am working on the cowling for my corvair. I just finished the tunnel type
> baffling that will be hidden by the cowling. I have the long fuse, 3
> piecewing, 26 inch wide fuse, corvair engine on fuse. I am building at the
> Lagrange airport in Lagrange Georgia. Would like to here from anyone.
> Gardiner Mason, 428 Gordon circle, Lagrange,Ga. 30240
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| Subject: | Pietenpol at SWRFI |
Hans, you're making me feel worse and worse about not being able to look at
your airplane and meet you at SWRFI! Congratulations on the award... from
the tramway (the closest I got to the airplane) it sure looked pretty. I'll
be looking for a photo of it in an upcoming Sport Aviation, since the EAA
photographer was out there both days really shooting lots of photos.
And hey, Corky and I got a "consolation award"- I got my copy of the 2007
EAA Chapter 35 membership roster in the mail yesterday and 41CC made the
cover. It's the only airplane picture in the roster and is the picture
showing an unidentified Louisiana Colonel piloting the airplane over an
unidentified parish in one of the southern states that got hit by a
hurricane recently ;o)
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp |
Where is it being measured at? Mine runs at 230 to 250 degrees, but the probe is
at the top of the accessary case, which is right out of the bottom of the engine
before the oil goes through the cooler and oil filter. Even the oil pump
can increase the temp some. I run synthetic oil which is more tolerant to higher
temps.
Del
shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello Guys, This morning 92GB flew again. I cut the flight short due to high
oil temp, 260 F. We did not have this problem with the old engine, at least
not that hot. I think it is because we had the Oil Bath Intake last time.
The oil jacket helped cool the oil with the cold air going through the intake.
I know I have heard of others on here with simmilar problems, What solved them?
We are already using the 12 plate (the bigger one) cooler. I guess we could
try silicon on all the seams in the baffling, But would like to try to avoid
cutting the cowling open too much at the bottom. It was good to fly again
after 10 months. She climbs right out at 60mph and about 1000 ft/min, and that
is a shallow climb. I will spend some time today tinkering with it and maby
find something out. I'll have to try to figure it out with out dad today, he
has to go out of town for work, but any advise you Corvair guys have would be
appreciated. (Notice I said Corvair Guys, Ford
guy's advise would be put a Model A on it, ha ha ha just kidding).
Shad
P.S. Is anyone going to The Waco fly in at Wyncoop next week?
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| Subject: | Re: piet building, and Corvairs |
The 1 hr break in should be in the air...not in a static situation.
Del
shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com> wrote:
We test ran it for about 1 hr today and it went well. After 1 hr of break
in (recomended by William Wynne's mannual we drained the oil and changed the
filter. After that we test ran to check for leaks, and I did 2 high speed taxis.
Del-New Richmond, Wi
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI |
Shoot me a photo of ole Nathan, he's the only one in the family with a
current physical, flying over that unidentified parish in that unknown territorial
state where Huey once reigned. That's probably the pic with the GM Chevy S-2
plant waaaaay in the background.
Levi, a Piet Sport Pilot
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| Subject: | Stanton Airfield Fly-In |
This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to
Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day
with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for
many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake
breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive
south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational
and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field
was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close
look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm
going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot
training. They have a very nice web site at:
http://www.stantonairfield.com/
Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start.
Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a
pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton
Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the
food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk
the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in.
Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he
spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then
first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is
the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an
airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days"
Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to
really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped
up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the
rest) and posted them at:
http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html
but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from
the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The
"older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the
Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air
planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next
week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the
news from up here anyway.
Tim in Bovey
Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res
version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image
number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya.
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| Subject: | Stanton Airfield Fly-In |
Wow, what an amazing panel on that Piet, that looks beautiful. What kind of
wood is that?
My wife is from Bloomington, MN, so we are up there several times a year.
Are there any regularly scheduled events at Stanton? I'd love to make it
sometime...we are headed up there in a couple of weeks for the 4th of July.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Verthein
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In
<minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to
Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day
with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for
many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake
breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive
south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational
and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field
was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close
look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm
going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot
training. They have a very nice web site at:
http://www.stantonairfield.com/
Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start.
Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a
pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton
Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the
food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk
the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in.
Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he
spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then
first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is
the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an
airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days"
Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to
really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped
up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the
rest) and posted them at:
http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html
but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from
the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The
"older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the
Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air
planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next
week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the
news from up here anyway.
Tim in Bovey
Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res
version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image
number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya.
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| Subject: | Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In |
Tim thanks for the Stanton news. This is the second year I have tried to
get there but the winds were just higher than my comfort level today Gusting
to about 30 this afternoon. Maybe next year.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Verthein" <minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In
<minoxphotographer@yahoo.com>
This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to
Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day
with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for
many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake
breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive
south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational
and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field
was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close
look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm
going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot
training. They have a very nice web site at:
http://www.stantonairfield.com/
Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start.
Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a
pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton
Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the
food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk
the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in.
Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he
spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then
first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is
the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an
airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days"
Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to
really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped
up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the
rest) and posted them at:
http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html
but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from
the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The
"older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the
Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air
planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next
week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the
news from up here anyway.
Tim in Bovey
Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res
version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image
number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya.
==
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==
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for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
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| Subject: | Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In |
The wood is burled black walnut veneer.
Dale Johnson and I spent the morning answering questions about NX18235.
It was a great turn out.
Steve Ruse, call me with your July 4th schedule. We'll see if we can
coordinate a visit to Stanton where the airplane is based.
Greg Cardinal
612 721-6235
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In
> <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>
> Wow, what an amazing panel on that Piet, that looks beautiful. What kind
> of
> wood is that?
>
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| Subject: | Cost to build your completed Pietenpol and other questions |
I just joined the group and am contemplating building a Pietenpol. Those of you
who have completed an aircraft, what final figure did you come up with for a
final monetary cost? I am trying to plan for the budget.
I also see there are 2 plans available ,one for a Pietenpol and one for a GN-1.
What is the difference between them?
I am looking for specs. What is the width of the cockpit backseat? ( Width and
legroom length)
Are there brakes...? (yea, ok, this might be a stupid question, but I don't know...so
I am asking anyway)
Thanks for any help you can shoot my way...
Please respond to my home email at kb2qqm@mac.com
Thanks..
Greg H
Racine, WI
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