---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/17/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:13 AM - Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp (shad bell) 2. 08:28 AM - Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI (Gene & Tammy) 3. 09:27 AM - Re: piet building (Rick Holland) 4. 09:27 AM - Pietenpol at SWRFI (Oscar Zuniga) 5. 11:57 AM - Re: Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp (del magsam) 6. 12:01 PM - Re: piet building, and Corvairs (del magsam) 7. 12:03 PM - Re: Pietenpol at SWRFI (Isablcorky@aol.com) 8. 05:31 PM - Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Tim Verthein) 9. 08:12 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Steve Ruse) 10. 08:36 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (Dick Navratil) 11. 09:12 PM - Re: Stanton Airfield Fly-In (gcardinal) 12. 10:21 PM - Cost to build your completed Pietenpol and other questions (Greg Heath) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:53 AM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp Hello Guys, This morning 92GB flew again. I cut the flight short due to high oil temp, 260 F. We did not have this problem with the old engine, at least not that hot. I think it is because we had the Oil Bath Intake last time. The oil jacket helped cool the oil with the cold air going through the intake. I know I have heard of others on here with simmilar problems, What solved them? We are already using the 12 plate (the bigger one) cooler. I guess we could try silicon on all the seams in the baffling, But would like to try to avoid cutting the cowling open too much at the bottom. It was good to fly again after 10 months. She climbs right out at 60mph and about 1000 ft/min, and that is a shallow climb. I will spend some time today tinkering with it and maby find something out. I'll have to try to figure it out with out dad today, he has to go out of town for work, but any advise you Corvair guys have would be appreciated. (Notice I said Corvair Guys, Ford guy's advise would be put a Model A on it, ha ha ha just kidding). Shad P.S. Is anyone going to The Waco fly in at Wyncoop next week? --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:03 AM PST US From: "Gene & Tammy" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol at SWRFI Congratulations Hans!! I know that must be a great feeling after putting all the hours into her. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: HVandervoo@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com ; dms180@houston.rr.com ; gmorton36@hughes.net ; corvaircraft@mylist.net Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 2:45 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol at SWRFI Just found out; My Pietenpol won the Best of Show Homebuilt at Hondo this year. Very surprised since I only spend a total of 1 1/2 hours at the show on Friday. Hans NX15KV ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 6/15/2007 11:31 AM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:05 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: piet building Gardiner - our Piets will be almost identical, long and 26 inch wide fuse, 3 piece wing, corvair engine, we even paint them the same color. Maybe we are identical twins separated at birth or something. Rick On 6/16/07, Gardiner Mason wrote: > > my piet has been signed off for covering but I want to attach the wings > to check the CG first. That will be next month sometimes. At the present I > am working on the cowling for my corvair. I just finished the tunnel type > baffling that will be hidden by the cowling. I have the long fuse, 3 > piecewing, 26 inch wide fuse, corvair engine on fuse. I am building at the > Lagrange airport in Lagrange Georgia. Would like to here from anyone. > Gardiner Mason, 428 Gordon circle, Lagrange,Ga. 30240 > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:59 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol at SWRFI Hans, you're making me feel worse and worse about not being able to look at your airplane and meet you at SWRFI! Congratulations on the award... from the tramway (the closest I got to the airplane) it sure looked pretty. I'll be looking for a photo of it in an upcoming Sport Aviation, since the EAA photographer was out there both days really shooting lots of photos. And hey, Corky and I got a "consolation award"- I got my copy of the 2007 EAA Chapter 35 membership roster in the mail yesterday and 41CC made the cover. It's the only airplane picture in the roster and is the picture showing an unidentified Louisiana Colonel piloting the airplane over an unidentified parish in one of the southern states that got hit by a hurricane recently ;o) Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:04 AM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Corvairs, Test flight, high oil temp Where is it being measured at? Mine runs at 230 to 250 degrees, but the probe is at the top of the accessary case, which is right out of the bottom of the engine before the oil goes through the cooler and oil filter. Even the oil pump can increase the temp some. I run synthetic oil which is more tolerant to higher temps. Del shad bell wrote: Hello Guys, This morning 92GB flew again. I cut the flight short due to high oil temp, 260 F. We did not have this problem with the old engine, at least not that hot. I think it is because we had the Oil Bath Intake last time. The oil jacket helped cool the oil with the cold air going through the intake. I know I have heard of others on here with simmilar problems, What solved them? We are already using the 12 plate (the bigger one) cooler. I guess we could try silicon on all the seams in the baffling, But would like to try to avoid cutting the cowling open too much at the bottom. It was good to fly again after 10 months. She climbs right out at 60mph and about 1000 ft/min, and that is a shallow climb. I will spend some time today tinkering with it and maby find something out. I'll have to try to figure it out with out dad today, he has to go out of town for work, but any advise you Corvair guys have would be appreciated. (Notice I said Corvair Guys, Ford guy's advise would be put a Model A on it, ha ha ha just kidding). Shad P.S. Is anyone going to The Waco fly in at Wyncoop next week? --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:19 PM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: piet building, and Corvairs The 1 hr break in should be in the air...not in a static situation. Del shad bell wrote: We test ran it for about 1 hr today and it went well. After 1 hr of break in (recomended by William Wynne's mannual we drained the oil and changed the filter. After that we test ran to check for leaks, and I did 2 high speed taxis. Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:39 PM PST US From: Isablcorky@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol at SWRFI Shoot me a photo of ole Nathan, he's the only one in the family with a current physical, flying over that unidentified parish in that unknown territorial state where Huey once reigned. That's probably the pic with the GM Chevy S-2 plant waaaaay in the background. Levi, a Piet Sport Pilot ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:27 PM PST US From: Tim Verthein Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot training. They have a very nice web site at: http://www.stantonairfield.com/ Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start. Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in. Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days" Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the rest) and posted them at: http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The "older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the news from up here anyway. Tim in Bovey Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya. == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:12 PM PST US From: "Steve Ruse" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In Wow, what an amazing panel on that Piet, that looks beautiful. What kind of wood is that? My wife is from Bloomington, MN, so we are up there several times a year. Are there any regularly scheduled events at Stanton? I'd love to make it sometime...we are headed up there in a couple of weeks for the 4th of July. Steve Ruse Norman, OK Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Verthein Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:31 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot training. They have a very nice web site at: http://www.stantonairfield.com/ Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start. Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in. Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days" Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the rest) and posted them at: http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The "older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the news from up here anyway. Tim in Bovey Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya. == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:40 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In Tim thanks for the Stanton news. This is the second year I have tried to get there but the winds were just higher than my comfort level today Gusting to about 30 this afternoon. Maybe next year. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Verthein" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In This weekend we made the trek from our home in Bovey, MN down to Minneapolis to my parents house. hadn't actually spent fathers day with Dad for many years. Dad, of course was a PP but hasn't flown for many years. Stanton Airfield was having a fathers day fly in, pancake breakfast. Stanton is a bit of an historic field, about an hours drive south of Minneapolis. Grass field, completely geared to recreational and sport pilot flying. They also do glider training, etc. This field was used for training for WWII pilots. I really wanted to have a close look at the field and meet the staff, since I'm about 99% sure I'm going to use some vacation time there this fall taking my sport pilot training. They have a very nice web site at: http://www.stantonairfield.com/ Anyway, we got there about 4 minutes after the breakfast was to start. Right off the bat spied a Piet, so talked with the owner and had a pretty close look, then bumped into Ron Donner, president of Stanton Sport Aviation and talked about flying a bit. Finally made it to the food hanger and had a super tasty breakfast. Then proceeded to walk the parking area and look at the rows of planes that had flown in. Lots of classic light planes on hand. Dad just about went nuts when he spied a nice shiny Cessna. He flew a 120 a LOT when he was dating then first married, to my Mom, and I'd say, since the early 70's, this is the first time I know of that my Mom and Dad were together at an airport, anywhere near a plane from the "good ol' days" Naturally, I took way too many photos, and being not patient enough to really edit and tweak them, I just simple mass sized them and whipped up a quick gallery (with a lot of Pietenpol pictures as well as the rest) and posted them at: http://www.edselmotors.com/stantonflyin.html but note, not a lot of editing and NO image tweaking..this is raw from the camera. Click the thumbnails to see bigger pics of course. The "older" couple is my mom and Dad standing in front of the Piet and the Cessna...The day got the wife inspired to get cracking on building air planes, and getting her license too, in fact, we're going back next week, she's going flying in the Great Planes biplane! So..that's the news from up here anyway. Tim in Bovey Oh..and if for some reason anyone has a need for a bigger/high res version of any of the pics, just let me know and give me the image number and I'd be glad to e-mail it to ya. == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:57 PM PST US From: "gcardinal" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In The wood is burled black walnut veneer. Dale Johnson and I spent the morning answering questions about NX18235. It was a great turn out. Steve Ruse, call me with your July 4th schedule. We'll see if we can coordinate a visit to Stanton where the airplane is based. Greg Cardinal 612 721-6235 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Ruse" Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:11 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Stanton Airfield Fly-In > > > Wow, what an amazing panel on that Piet, that looks beautiful. What kind > of > wood is that? > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:24 PM PST US From: Greg Heath Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cost to build your completed Pietenpol and other questions I just joined the group and am contemplating building a Pietenpol. Those of you who have completed an aircraft, what final figure did you come up with for a final monetary cost? I am trying to plan for the budget. I also see there are 2 plans available ,one for a Pietenpol and one for a GN-1. What is the difference between them? I am looking for specs. What is the width of the cockpit backseat? ( Width and legroom length) Are there brakes...? (yea, ok, this might be a stupid question, but I don't know...so I am asking anyway) Thanks for any help you can shoot my way... Please respond to my home email at kb2qqm@mac.com Thanks.. 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