---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/15/07: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:09 AM - Re: Reclining the seat back (SSchof4277@aol.com) 2. 10:17 AM - Seat bottom (Ryan Michals) 3. 06:34 PM - Re: Seat bottom (Dick Navratil) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:33 AM PST US From: SSchof4277@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Reclining the seat back ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:51 AM PST US From: Ryan Michals Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat bottom Dick I potted the seat back at +1.5" and I like it. I don't want to get too far between struts. You mentioned that you "flattened" the seat bottom out. What kind of angle did you use if any? Thanks Ryan Dick Navratil wrote: Ryan Are you going to Brodhead or OSH? If so, you can sit in my new plane and see if you like the way I spaced it out and the larger leg hole openings. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Michals To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Reclining the seat back I am assuming you recline the seat by repositioning the struts in the fuselage sides, is this correct? Ryan Mark You will need the long fuse if using the Corvair or Cont. engine. My main complaint in building the short fuse was that after a couple of hours of flying my lower back gets real sore from the angle of the seat back to the seat bottom. On my new long fuse, I reclined the seat back 1 1/2" at the top and flattened out the seat bottom. Also, I went with the dimensions for the short fuse in building the bridge decks between cockpits and the forward cockpit. The result is that I have an additional 9 1/2" in the rear cockpit. Width has not been an issue for me. I am 5'10" - 200lb. If you are located near MPLS, MN. you can come over and sit in both and see what you think. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans study update > > Well first little issue and hopefully I am just not reading the drawing > wrong. I may be looking at the drawings for the short fuselage and not > the long. I will definately need the long fuselage. > > The plans call for a 31 inch space between the rear pit and the front > seat. Trouble is I have about 36 inch legs. When bent up enough it > forces knees into what will be the panel. That will have to be > lengthed. Width was not a problem. I wasn't wide enough yet to have > that be that big of a problem. > > A couple of options. One is cramp the person in the front pit. Not > ideal. If you want to take someone for a ride you want them to enjoy it > as well. > > Option get rid of the front seat. Well at least make it a baggage > compartment. Most of the time thats all the front pit would be used > for, but I would still like the ability to take someone along for the > ride should I choose to. > > Lengthen the fuselage. It looks like going forward would have very > little impact. Im about 220 so going back probably wouldn't be the way > to go. Especially since the datam is the leading edge of the wing. I > saw a rearward CG limit in the plans, but is there a forward CG limit? > If so what is it and how much of an extension can be made without a big > impact on balance. > > Thanks all for the help. Its going to be a whale of a ride gettting > this done. > --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. 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See you next weekend ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Michals To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 6:52 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Seat bottom Dick I potted the seat back at +1.5" and I like it. I don't want to get too far between struts. You mentioned that you "flattened" the seat bottom out. What kind of angle did you use if any? Thanks Ryan Dick Navratil wrote: Ryan Are you going to Brodhead or OSH? If so, you can sit in my new plane and see if you like the way I spaced it out and the larger leg hole openings. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Michals To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Reclining the seat back I am assuming you recline the seat by repositioning the struts in the fuselage sides, is this correct? Ryan Mark You will need the long fuse if using the Corvair or Cont. engine. My main complaint in building the short fuse was that after a couple of hours of flying my lower back gets real sore from the angle of the seat back to the seat bottom. On my new long fuse, I reclined the seat back 1 1/2" at the top and flattened out the seat bottom. Also, I went with the dimensions for the short fuse in building the bridge decks between cockpits and the forward cockpit. The result is that I have an additional 9 1/2" in the rear cockpit. Width has not been an issue for me. I am 5'10" - 200lb. If you are located near MPLS, MN. you can come over and sit in both and see what you think. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Blackwell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Plans study update > > Well first little issue and hopefully I am just not reading the drawing > wrong. I may be looking at the drawings for the short fuselage and not > the long. I will definately need the long fuselage. > > The plans call for a 31 inch space between the rear pit and the front > seat. Trouble is I have about 36 inch legs. When bent up enough it > forces knees into what will be the panel. That will have to be > lengthed. Width was not a problem. I wasn't wide enough yet to have > that be that big of a problem. > > A couple of options. One is cramp the person in the front pit. Not > ideal. If you want to take someone for a ride you want them to enjoy it > as well. > > Option get rid of the front seat. Well at least make it a baggage > compartment. Most of the time thats all the front pit would be used > for, but I would still like the ability to take someone along for the > ride should I choose to. > > Lengthen the fuselage. It looks like going forward would have very > little impact. Im about 220 so going back probably wouldn't be the way > to go. Especially since the datam is the leading edge of the wing. I > saw a rearward CG limit in the plans, but is there a forward CG limit? > If so what is it and how much of an extension can be made without a big > impact on balance. > > Thanks all for the help. Its going to be a whale of a ride gettting > this done. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! 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