---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/18/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:56 AM - bungees vs springs (Oscar Zuniga) 2. 07:06 AM - Re: Cabanes at Brodhead (Barry Davis) 3. 08:25 AM - Shipping Cabanes to Dave A. (Dave Abramson) 4. 09:07 AM - this time of year... (Steve Eldredge) 5. 09:49 AM - Re: Cabanes at Brodhead (Barry Davis) 6. 01:03 PM - Re: Cabanes at Brodhead (Max Hegler) 7. 03:48 PM - Re: Cabanes at Brodhead (Tom Stinemetze) 8. 06:22 PM - Re: bungees vs springs / front pit cover (Rcaprd@aol.com) 9. 06:36 PM - List of Brodhead '07 Attendees (Rcaprd@aol.com) 10. 06:47 PM - Re: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees (Dog67@aol.com) 11. 07:26 PM - Re: 500 agl and spam cans / First flight (AzevedoFlyer@aol.com) 12. 08:04 PM - Re: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees (Max Hegler) 13. 10:13 PM - for sale (Ken Anderson) 14. 10:51 PM - Corvair Cowlings (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:24 AM PST US From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: Pietenpol-List: bungees vs springs Chuck "Baby Oil" wrote- >I like the springs much, much better. My springs are flat wound >die springs that measure: 6" long, 2" dia, .280" X .460" wire. ...and you can get those from McMaster-Carr, http://www.mcmaster.com/ . On their website, search on 'die springs' and the universe will open up to you ;o) Now is that 2" OD or ID? on the springs? My assumption is that it's OD. By the way, Chuck, do you have any photos or details of how you secure your butterfly-hinged front cockpit cover when it's in place? Corky made very nice naugahyde cockpit covers that secure in place with snaps, but they are only for use when on the ground... they will not stay in place in flight. I've thought about a hard cover with those twist thingies (technical term). And how does the airplane feel and handle when you cover the front 'pit? Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:03 AM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead Yes, I can. Shipping is about $8 to anywhere in the US. Send $28 and your address to: I'm leaving for Brodhead in the morning, is it OK to ship when I return when I have more time? Barry Davis 728-B Bankhead Ave Carrollton, Ga. 30117 1-888-834-8900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Abramson To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead I will buy a set, but I will not be at Broadhead. Can you ship? Cheers, Dave ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:43 AM PST US From: "Dave Abramson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Shipping Cabanes to Dave A. Sure Barry! No worries!!!! I will post you a check! Thanks! Dave A. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Davis Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:00 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead Yes, I can. Shipping is about $8 to anywhere in the US. Send $28 and your address to: I'm leaving for Brodhead in the morning, is it OK to ship when I return when I have more time? Barry Davis 728-B Bankhead Ave Carrollton, Ga. 30117 1-888-834-8900 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Abramson Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:30 PM Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead I will buy a set, but I will not be at Broadhead... Can you ship? Cheers, Dave ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: this time of year... From: "Steve Eldredge" When the list gets quiet, while many of you travel to Pietenpol heaven.... I'd like to wish all of you going to Brodhead a good trip! Fly safe, burn lots of baby oil, eat lots of corn and brats, and bring home lots of memories. There is a tinge of sadness this time of year for me because I'd really like to join you all for the gathering and migration!! Sadly I had to cancel this year because of other family expenses that just didn't leave enough to pay for the trip. I wish you all God Speed, and look forward to hearing from you participating in the greatest fly-in ever! Best Regards, Steve E Low and Slow Since 1929 Pietenpol Aircamper steve@byu.edu ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:45 AM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead OK Max Mike and I usually camp across the field in the trees. This year I am pulling my antique 1964 Scotty camper. It is White with Turquois top. Mike is pulling his homebuilt teardrop. We are arriving Friday night and leaving on Sunday. I'll bring you a set. Barry Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Hegler To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead Barry, I would like a set. I will arrive at Brodhead around noon on Saturday. Not sure I will camp there or get a hotel nearby. Looking forward to seeing everyone there... Max ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Davis To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:03 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead Does anyone need any aluminum cabane strut material? We have a few sets I can sell for $20 for 4 Pieces. These are 28" long and 3" wide. They take a 1" square insert. I hope the pictures come through, but can email you direct if they don't. Barry Davis I WILL BRING TO BRODHEAD IF YOU LET ME KNOW BRFORE NOON ON THURSDAY - EST. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:42 PM PST US From: "Max Hegler" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead You should be easy to find...Thanks! >From: "Barry Davis" >To: >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:49:08 -0400 > >OK Max > >Mike and I usually camp across the field in the trees. This year I am >pulling my antique 1964 Scotty camper. It is White with Turquois top. Mike >is pulling his homebuilt teardrop. We are arriving Friday night and leaving >on Sunday. I'll bring you a set. >Barry Davis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Max Hegler > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:29 PM > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead > > > Barry, > I would like a set. I will arrive at Brodhead around noon on Saturday. >Not sure I will camp there or get a hotel nearby. Looking forward to >seeing everyone there... > > Max > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barry Davis > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:03 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead > > > Does anyone need any aluminum cabane strut material? We have a few >sets I can sell for $20 for 4 Pieces. > These are 28" long and 3" wide. They take a 1" square insert. I hope >the pictures come through, but can email you direct if they don't. > Barry Davis > > I WILL BRING TO BRODHEAD IF YOU LET ME KNOW BRFORE NOON ON THURSDAY - >EST. ><< PietCabane01.jpg >> ><< PietCabane02.jpg >> ><< PietCabane03.jpg >> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:22 PM PST US From: "Tom Stinemetze" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Cabanes at Brodhead Barry: I would love to buy a set from you. I will not be at Broadhead but would gladly pay the shipping. Tom Stinemetze McPherson, Kansas The Airplane Nut ____ | ____ \8/ / \ I like the springs much, much better. My springs are flat wound >die springs that measure: 6" long, 2" dia, .280" X .460" wire. ...and you can get those from McMaster-Carr, http://www.mcmaster.com/ . On their website, search on 'die springs' and the universe will open up to you ;o) Now is that 2" OD or ID? on the springs? My assumption is that it's OD. By the way, Chuck, do you have any photos or details of how you secure your butterfly-hinged front cockpit cover when it's in place? Corky made very nice naugahyde cockpit covers that secure in place with snaps, but they are only for use when on the ground... they will not stay in place in flight. I've thought about a hard cover with those twist thingies (technical term). And how does the airplane feel and handle when you cover the front 'pit? Oscar Zuniga Oscar, Yep, that's 2" O.D. on the springs. I think this is a common size for die springs. The right half of the sheet metal cover is retained by short wood screws into the filler strip along the top edge of the right longeron, and tinnerman nuts under the forward edge and aft edge with sheet metal screws. The latches are homemade for the opening left half of the cover. Piano hinge down the center butt line zero. I think I have some detail pictures somewhere of the entire cover. It has worked very well and reliable, staying closed during flight, and it keeps all the wind out of the cockpit, and especially more comfortable during the colder months. I have to remove the front windshield when I have the cover on, and it adds a lot to aerodynamically cleaning up the airframe. Only takes a few minutes to make the change, because of the use of tinnerman nuts. Hey Oscar, I got the data plate from you last week - looks great !! I haven't stamped the info on it yet, but it will be mounted in the front pit for the Brodhead trip ! Chuck G. NX770CG ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:44 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees _eng@canadianrogers.com_ (mailto:eng@canadianrogers.com) writes: Who =99s Going This Year ? I will be attending , with my 16-year old son, and we will be driving (12 hrs each way). Bill C. Lynn & Kevin Knoll Wichita Driving Perry Rhoads Carlinville,IL. Driving, on my way to Oshkosh Looking for a Pietenpol Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC Flying my RV-4 Ed grentzer...Airlines to Chicago & renting a car to drive to Brodhead. I am hoping to drive out and spend the better part of the day before flying back on Saturday night. John Recine Arden Adamson Driving in Friday evening and staying Saturday Waupaca, WI Looking forward to meeting you guys. I will be driving down. I'll be the guy with the tape measure and camera :) John Egan Greenville, WI -Piet building in progress- Frank Pavliga e-mailed me and said he and Don E. were flying to Brodhead and there may be (if they can get a sign off) a one-of-a-kind flying Pitcairn Autogyro there for the Piet fly-in enroute to Oshkosh......but that is iffy. I will be at Brodhead via auto then on to Oshkosh. Mike C. Driving and camping with wife Susan, can=99t wait to see you all. Come say hi, will have a black Suburban, Flagstaff pop-up and a scotch in my hand. Also will bring some excess tail stock to sell (not Mrs.) Jack Textor De s Moines Current plan is to leave CT on Wed. and get there before it's over. Actually I should roll in Thursday afternoon. Driving. --------Glenn Thomas N????? _http://www.flyingwood.com_ (http://www.flyingwood.com) Gene & Tammy Pennington Driving Camden, Tn Looking forward to meeting everyone I will be there Friday and hopefully Saturday. I am flying into Madison on Wednesday, and staying in Portage for the rest of the week. Ryan Flying NX770CG. Camping under the wing. Stocking up on Baby Oil. Giving rides. Bringing video's. Smoke 'em, if ya got 'em !! Chuck Gantzer Wichi ta, KS NX770CG I will be there some time friday,driving my Freightliner again. hopefully next year in my pietNX294RB Robert Bush Lexington TN Rick Holland Driving in Friday afternoon, leave Sunday morning. Building corvair Piet I will be driving down this year. I am going to trailer my new Piet project. I'm also taking it to OSH, it will be in the Rotec display. I have been working 6-10 hrs every day trying to get it finished up. I'll bring the wing s too and set it up. Dick N. I am going to see if Ted Davis will bring his Pietenpol to the event. He is a great man with tons of knowledge! He lives near and is a wealth of information on all _aspects...kmheidecpo@yahoo.com_ (mailto:aspects...kmheidecpo@yahoo.com) Ken Don Lane, driving from NC arrive fri eve. off to Oshkosh on Sun. Looking forward to meeting everyone Hope to leave WV Tuesday in Felix the GN-1, Cinda will be in the chase motor home. Looking for grass runways with fuel along the way. S kip I'm arriving in Milwaukee midday Thursday... -Mike Mike Whaley _MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com_ (mailto:MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com) Myself and a few others will be driving in from Fargo, ND. Ken H Fargo, ND _piet4ken@mindspring.com_ (mailto:piet4ken@mindspring.com) writes: Ken & Mary Anderson Samanth & Isabella Duckworth (grand kids) St. Louis Drivi ng MH stayin at Crazy Horse Campground Arriving Thrs thru Sat or Sun _douweblumberg@earthlink.net_ (mailto:douweblumberg@earthlink.net) writes: My wife, Marci and I will be driving up later on Thurs and camping out. Can' t wait to see you guys, Douwe Tim in Bovey We are! Me 'n' th' wife. Driving from Bovey, MN down to Minneapolis to see my folks thursday, then off to Brodhead Friday morning. W e're staying at the Gasthaus Motel in Monroe, where I understand their county fai r is going on that weekend too. I will be there again this year, heck my company is paying for my trip to Oshkosh this year, and I didn't even have to beg for a couple days in Brodhe ad before the big show... If people are interested, I would like to take another panorama shot like I did last year, maybe something a little more formal this time. Last years ca n be found at....I hope to take a better one this year.. Heck, maybe the sun w ill be out! -- David Case John E Greenville, WI -see you at Brodhead- _Amsafetyc@aol.com_ (mailto:Amsafetyc@aol.com) Great idea John Recine Arden Adamson Waupaca, WI ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL a t http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:45 PM PST US From: Dog67@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees Jon Apfelbaum - flying a plastic Glastar - should be there fri/sat. Looking forward to it ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:03 PM PST US From: AzevedoFlyer@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: 500 agl and spam cans / First flight Rick, Many thanks for remembering Broadhead. Unfortunately, I have to head just the opposite way, towards NC. Maybe someplace else in Ohio? Cheers, Miguel ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:19 PM PST US From: "Max Hegler" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees Driving in for Saturday and Sunday...Max Hegler... ----- Original Message ----- From: Rcaprd@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: List of Brodhead '07 Attendees eng@canadianrogers.com writes: Who=99s Going This Year ? I will be attending, with my 16-year old son, and we will be driving (12 hrs each way). Bill C. Lynn & Kevin Knoll Wichita Driving Perry Rhoads Carlinville,IL. Driving, on my way to Oshkosh Looking for a Pietenpol Jack Phillips Raleigh, NC Flying my RV-4 Ed grentzer...Airlines to Chicago & renting a car to drive to Brodhead. I am hoping to drive out and spend the better part of the day before flying back on Saturday night. John Recine Arden Adamson Driving in Friday evening and staying Saturday Waupaca, WI Looking forward to meeting you guys. I will be driving down. I'll be the guy with the tape measure and camera :) John Egan Greenville, WI -Piet building in progress- Frank Pavliga e-mailed me and said he and Don E. were flying to Brodhead and there may be (if they can get a sign off) a one-of-a-kind flying Pitcairn Autogyro there for the Piet fly-in enroute to Oshkosh......but that is iffy. I will be at Brodhead via auto then on to Oshkosh. Mike C. Driving and camping with wife Susan, can=99t wait to see you all. Come say hi, will have a black Suburban, Flagstaff pop-up and a scotch in my hand. Also will bring some excess tail stock to sell (not Mrs.) Jack Textor Des Moines Current plan is to leave CT on Wed. and get there before it's over. Actually I should roll in Thursday afternoon. Driving. --------Glenn Thomas N????? http://www.flyingwood.com Gene & Tammy Pennington Driving Camden, Tn Looking forward to meeting everyone I will be there Friday and hopefully Saturday. I am flying into Madison on Wednesday, and staying in Portage for the rest of the week. Ryan Flying NX770CG. Camping under the wing. Stocking up on Baby Oil. Giving rides. Bringing video's. Smoke 'em, if ya got 'em !! Chuck Gantzer Wichita, KS NX770CG I will be there some time friday,driving my Freightliner again. hopefully next year in my pietNX294RB Robert Bush Lexington TN Rick Holland Driving in Friday afternoon, leave Sunday morning. Building corvair Piet I will be driving down this year. I am going to trailer my new Piet project. I'm also taking it to OSH, it will be in the Rotec display. I have been working 6-10 hrs every day trying to get it finished up. I'll bring the wings too and set it up. Dick N. I am going to see if Ted Davis will bring his Pietenpol to the event. He is a great man with tons of knowledge! He lives near and is a wealth of information on all aspects...kmheidecpo@yahoo.com Ken Don Lane, driving from NC arrive fri eve. off to Oshkosh on Sun. Looking forward to meeting everyone Hope to leave WV Tuesday in Felix the GN-1, Cinda will be in the chase motor home. Looking for grass runways with fuel along the way. Skip I'm arriving in Milwaukee midday Thursday... -Mike Mike Whaley MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com Myself and a few others will be driving in from Fargo, ND. Ken H Fargo, ND piet4ken@mindspring.com writes: Ken & Mary Anderson Samanth & Isabella Duckworth (grand kids) St. Louis Driving MH stayin at Crazy Horse Campground Arriving Thrs thru Sat or Sun douweblumberg@earthlink.net writes: My wife, Marci and I will be driving up later on Thurs and camping out. Can't wait to see you guys, Douwe Tim in Bovey We are! Me 'n' th' wife. Driving from Bovey, MN down to Minneapolis to see my folks thursday, then off to Brodhead Friday morning. We're staying at the Gasthaus Motel in Monroe, where I understand their county fair is going on that weekend too. I will be there again this year, heck my company is paying for my trip to Oshkosh this year, and I didn't even have to beg for a couple days in Brodhead before the big show... If people are interested, I would like to take another panorama shot like I did last year, maybe something a little more formal this time. Last years can be found at....I hope to take a better one this year.. Heck, maybe the sun will be out! -- David Case John E Greenville, WI -see you at Brodhead- Amsafetyc@aol.com Great idea John Recine Arden Adamson Waupaca, WI ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:51 PM PST US From: "Ken Anderson" Subject: Pietenpol-List: for sale I am bringing with me a set of wings for sale. These are part of an unfinished project I purchaced a few years back. Plan on arriving thrs eve. Ken ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:00 PM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Corvair Cowlings Fellow Pieter: I will bring a few sets of fiberglass cowlings duplicated off of Bernie's corvair pietenpol. If interested please seek me out and lets make a show special of the last few! Remember, they are for the corvair conversion. Ken Heide Fargo, ND Kenneth M. Heide, BA,CPO,FAAOP --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? 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