---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/27/07: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:31 AM - Re: Aileron and Elevator Horns (carson vella) 2. 07:25 AM - Ken Perkins Email Address: (Bill Princell) 3. 10:43 AM - Re: Some words of wisdom (Gordon Bowen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:38 AM PST US From: "carson vella" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron and Elevator Horns Hi Does Ken have an email contact or website? Carson ----- Original Message ----- From: KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Aileron and Elevator Horns Richard, While at Brodhead this year, I caught the tail end of the seminar by Ken Perkins. He makes most (if not all) the parts you will need for the pietenpol. I have seen his work and find it excellent! You can order any part you need from him and as you can afford it! He can be reached at Perk's Aerowerks 913-764-6949. Ken H. Fargo, ND Richard and Kathryn Davis wrote: Hello all we are looking for a set of Aileron horns and a set of Elevator horns if anyone is parting out or has extra to sell. Thanks Richard &Kathryn Davis your remotest Alaskan Piet BA,CPO,FAAOP ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:31 AM PST US From: "Bill Princell" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ken Perkins Email Address: Hi Carson: Go to http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/photoGalleryList2.cfm?AlbumID=8 to see the parts that Ken makes for other builders. His email address is kenvernaperkins@juno.com . Bill Princell / Noblesville, IN ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:16 AM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Some words of wisdom Pass the Soapbox, please! Kevin's words of wisdom are so right on the spot. Think the stats show only about 10% of projects started get to the flying stage. I have three homebuilts behind me in the last 30 years and can suggest a couple more things to consider before cutting the first piece of wood or metal: 1) Buddy or TEAM build. Nothing completes a project faster, more competent or cheaper (per person) than a project team. Flying clubs makes flying affordable and safer. Building teams or buddy building makes for projects that get done. Not everyone will do the same amount of work, this will cause some conflicts, but the project will get done. Only one of you can be the "builder" on the FAA docs, therefore have the sole repairman's certificate but it's worth it. 2) Pick a simple project first with lots of other builders via support groups on the web, ie. Pietenpols or RV's. If you decide on a project like the RV's, make sure the original designer/builder is still involved in the support of the program. Example- the Osprey plans are still sold by the designer, but they've not been updated since the 70's and are incomplete/inaccurate. Aircraft Spruce still sells wood kits for Osprey, but very few actually get completed due to the designer's errors never corrected in plans and lack of support groups to help new builder over the hump of these errors. Rutan quit selling the Longeze plans when he felt Rutan Aircraft Company (RAF) couldn't support the homebuilt projects any longer but he continually updated the plans and newsletters thru out the program's life. Therefore lots of builders with completed projects and lots of builder support groups. 3) Don't think about all the wonderful electronic add-ons, or gadgets or mods you'd like to have on your completed project, ain't worth the money or effort until you actually have something flying. If you gotta have latest GPS, IFR gadget, go join or start a flying club with a flying platform (ie. C-182) capable of handling it. 4) KISS KISS KISS, it's the only thing that works in homebuilding and completed projects. Gordon Soapbox now available ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Michals To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Some words of wisdom The quote below was recently posted on the Biplane Hangar list by Kevin Kimball. It made me laugh and felt I needed to share it. I can relate to what he is saying. I have been fooling around with this rear seat, a change here, a change there, a little more, a little less, etc.. Meanwhile I have a load of fresh lumber waiting for me. Some obsessing over details is ok, but there's a point when you just have to do it. I'll start cutting tomorrow. -Ryan "Having been around airplanes nearly all of my life, I have seen hundreds of projects/builders come and go. In the past 20 years or so, I have observed this to a greater degree than before that time. It boggles my mind at how often people start into their first real project and while still at the paperwork stage, spend countless hours figuring out how to undo all that has been done for them. "Make it better..." as they think. Even more prevalent is the novice builder who buys someone else's partial project and starts right in on a huge shopping list of what they are gonna undo, redo or toss out. It can take many years and a multitude of completed projects to be able to develop, select and make airframe mods with a reasonable amount of confidence that what you are doing would work BEFORE you make the first cut. So much time is lost to vapor building. What I am trying to say is run away from the computer and stay in the work shop. That'll get it done so you can go have some fun! Sincerely, Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc. PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd. 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