---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/04/07: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Dick N's cool Piet (del magsam) 2. 09:23 AM - Re:Re: Re: Dick N's cool Piet (Ryan Michals) 3. 03:14 PM - Re: tail wheels (Rcaprd@aol.com) 4. 06:02 PM - Re: tail wheels (shad bell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:20 AM PST US From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dick N's cool Piet Patrick Sorry I dropped the ball on the crankshaft work, This new business I have is consuming all of my thoughts and time. I have a partially finished piet...and would like a local partner in it. Maybe when life slows down here...we can get together and have some fun with it. Del PatrickW wrote: He's really doing a nice job on that Piet... It's nice to be in the same EAA chapter (25, at Lakeville, MN) as Dick, as well as a couple other Pietenpol guys there. When I finish my current project, I'd like to build a Piet next. Already have the plans... :) Patrick 601XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127423#127423 Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:58 AM PST US Subject: Re:Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dick N's cool Piet From: "Ryan Michals" Where are you located Dell? ------Original Message------ From: del magsam Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dick N's cool Piet Patrick Sorry I dropped the ball on the crankshaft work, This new business I have is consuming all of my thoughts and time. I have a partially finished piet..and would like a local partner in it. Maybe when life slows down here...we can get together and have some fun with it. Del PatrickW wrote: He's really doing a nice job on that Piet... It's nice to be in the same EAA chapter (25, at Lakeville, MN) as Dick, as well as a couple other Pietenpol guys there. When I finish my current project, I'd like to build a Piet next. Already have the plans... :) Patrick 601XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127423#127423 Del-New Richmond, Wi "farmerdel@rocketmail.com" --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:48 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail wheels In a message dated 8/1/2007 9:55:27 AM Central Daylight Time, douweblumberg@earthlink.net writes: Hi guys, Looks like I'm going to have to put a tailwheel on my skid assembly for asphalt. Wanted your input on what's worked and what HASNT. I've heard, and it makes sense that a tailwheel adds twisting loads to the stock design that it wasn't intended for. yet at Brodhead, I didn't see many assemblies that seemed modified and yet they were in one piece. If you did modify the assembly, what did you do? Also, will a 3" wheel work on grass or is it too small? I'm thinking of building one up myself Douwe Douwe, I have a 'Short Fuselage' with the shorter of the two types of skids. I started out (during '02 & '03) with a tail skid, which works great as long as you are using it exclusively on turf. Not much control with the skid on the hard surface, and it sounds like you're dragging a pop machine across the concrete !! I tried a nylon roller at the aft edge of the skid, but that only worked for a couple of days. I finally added a 3 1/2" tailwheel, but I added it to the aft edge of the skid, in order to keep the tail as low as possible, and to reduce the twisting loads on the swingarm. Even with the loads incurred while spinning the tail around and around with the smoke on, the swingarm has held up just fine, because twisting load is reduced because of the position of the wheel. However, I have to use differential braking to get it to do a tight turn in the grass, because of the small 3 1/2" diameter tailwheel. Here is a picture : _http://nx770cg.com/Unique.html_ (http://nx770cg.com/Unique.html) Chuck G. NX770CG http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:07 PM PST US From: shad bell Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tail wheels I would say PUT A STEERABLE TAILWHEEL ON! We have a 3 inch NON-STEERABLE on dad's and believe me it puts much more stress on the structure than it would if it swiveled.(spelling?) We use tailskid technique when manuvering on the ground, Down elevator and goose the throttle with the rudder and brake over and locked. It is fun when you get the hang of it, but the novilty wears off the first time you go to another airport and have to shut down, unstrap and climb out to get the airplane off the damn runway, because you decided too late to go to the next taxiway turn off. This has happened to me only twice in about 30 hrs of flying 92GB but it could get ugly if a student pilot came in close behind you in a Cessnna 150 with 40 degrees of flaps and had to try a go around. We will eventually put a steerable wheel on 92GB, but we have bigger fish to fry untill we get this Corvair running. Shad p.s. Is anyone going to MERFI?, IF and I mean IF we get all the parts back for the engine in time, we plan on flying up this year. --------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.