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Sat 09/15/07


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 03:13 PM - smoke on! (Oscar Zuniga)
     2. 05:09 PM - Stitts covering (Scott Schreiber)
     3. 07:32 PM - Re: smoke on! (Rcaprd@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:13:37 PM PST US
    From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: smoke on!
    Well, 41CC may have a new habit soon. Smoking. I got the test apparatus hooked up securely enough to allow ground testing. Consisted of an automotive windshield washer reservoir and pump bungee'd to the side of the airplane with a small 12V motorcycle battery sitting on that and also lashed on. Flex hose to the exhaust stack with the last few inches a piece of copper tubing, to a brass fitting threaded into a boss welded to the stack just where Mike Cuy said to put it. Two small holes drilled through the stack wall, again as per Mike's specs for size and location. One large bottle of baby oil went in the reservoir, engine was started and warmed up (tail tied to my car's trailer hitch and wheels chocked), then 1500 RPM and I gave it a blip of smoke. Wowza!!!!! She makee smokee! Let that one waft past the hangar behind me and blipped it again. And again. And againnnnnn!!!!!!!! Looked back and the hangar was full of smoke, and a nice trail downwind about an eighth of a mile in the light breeze. Decided to call it good before the volunteer fire department showed up, since my apparatus had proven itself. Couple of things I noticed right away. One: the grass beneath and behind my airplane was all oily, so was my car parked downwind (tail of the airplane was tied to it, remember?). So were the gear legs. Maybe when the smoke is on with the airplane is flying it doesn't oil everything up so bad, but it consumed 3/4 of the bottle of baby oil and it looked like a good deal of it was unburned or maybe the smoke condenses. Second, when I would apply smoke the engine would start to stutter a bit on that side. It was definitely the smoke doing it. Not sure why, but again- maybe with higher power settings such as used in flight, it won't do that. Kind of strange. It will be nice to get the system complete and operational, but at least I know that my components will work and the smoke volume should be about right when the airplane is in flight. I don't know how Chuck "the master of baby oil" Gantzer does it, pirouetting his airplane in a cloud of smoke. He must get out of the airplane covered in oil! Took my brother up for a flight after that and made a pretty decent x-wind landing. Pietenpols forever! Oscar Zuniga NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Share your special parenting moments! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us


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    Time: 05:09:31 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Schreiber" <got22b@subarubrat.com>
    Subject: Stitts covering
    Looks like I am going stitts for my covering. I have some great folks who will help me learn the job. Can anyone here give me an approximate idea of what I need to order for fabric, adheasive etc. ? -Scott Schreiber


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    Time: 07:32:41 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: smoke on!
    Hey Oscar, I figured you would be picking up the habit of Smoking !! Caution: It is very habit forming !! The way I originally set up my system, was with an automotive after-market windshield washer tank & pump. Here are the original problems & solution that I came up with: 1) The location I placed the plastic tank on the left side of the engine mount was a little too high - just a little above the point where it enters the exhaust stack. Gravity caused the oil to dribble out into the exhaust when the pump was NOT on. 2) Another problem I had originally, was that I ran the line down, then back up to the 'Tee' in the center, where it split and goes to each side, and when the tank would run dry, and I would refill the tank with Baby Oil, the pump would cavitate, and I would have give the system 'Mouth to Mouth Resuscitation', by blowing into the filler hole with the pump on, in order to bleed the air out of the pump. 3) The tank was not big enough, which limited the 'Smoke On' time. I cured all three problems by building a larger fiberglass tank (holds about a gallon) with a nipple glassed in the bottom of the tank, and locating the tank down low in the center of the firewall, and located the pump separately at the lowest point in the system. The lines going to the exhaust should be long enough so heat will not travel down the metal, and affect the plastic tubing attached to it. I ran the two brass (should have been copper) lines from the exhaust pipes all the way to the Tee, using compression fittings, then a clear tygon tubing from the pump to the Tee. I cut a steel union in half, radiused them to the exhaust pipe, welded one on each of the aft pipes about 1 1/2" down from the flange, and drilled ONE # 60 hole down low through the exhaust pipe after it was welded. I located the hole down low in the fitting, so it would drain all the oil out into the exhaust and would not collect and harden up in the fitting, after the pump was turned off. The system has been trouble free ever since, and even when I do the 'Smoke Dance' on the ground, I only get a little oily dirt on the landing gear legs, and maybe a little bit on the leading edge of the stabilizer. I've never had any engine stutter with the smoke on, even at the lower power settings. Here is the page on my web site: _http://nx770cg.com/SmokeSystem.html_ (http://nx770cg.com/SmokeSystem.html) Chuck 'Baby Oil' Gantzer NX770CG SMOKE 'EM IF YA GOT 'EM !!!




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