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1. 04:14 AM - Re: wheel camber (Tom Bernie)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: Potential Auto engine for Pietes (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
3. 02:20 PM - Sanding ribs (Brian Kraut)
4. 02:41 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
5. 02:44 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Ed G.)
6. 02:50 PM - Cabane strut and fitting question (Jack T. Textor)
7. 02:51 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Jack T. Textor)
8. 02:52 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Jim Lathrop)
9. 02:54 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Skip Gadd)
10. 02:55 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Steve Eldredge)
11. 03:02 PM - Re: Cabane strut and fitting question (Barry Davis)
12. 03:07 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (walt evans)
13. 05:08 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Brian Kraut)
14. 06:01 PM - Re: Sanding ribs (Glenn Thomas)
15. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Sanding ribs (Steve Eldredge)
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Skip,
Guess I'll initially rig my gear for 5 degrees negative camber, then pin them at
the correct point when the plane is finished. Thanks for the input.
Tom Bernie
Gloucester, Mass
-----Original Message-----
>From: Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
>Sent: Sep 19, 2007 10:04 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: wheel camber
>
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>Tom,
>My GN-1 has bungees. The Piet I am building does has springs. I am planning
>to adjust the spring legs so the wheels have 0 degrees camber at gross.
>Skip
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>
>> Maby I can figure it backwards (if you use springs) what increase in
>camber do you think you experience with a full load?
>> Thanks for the response,
>> Tom Bernie
>> Gloucester, Mass
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Potential Auto engine for Pietes |
Some further research in to the rotary engine reveals a distinct
possibility for a Piet.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/index.php?pag=50-19
Michael
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The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets hang
past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am finding
that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on the
undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
Brian,
A router works fast and very well...
Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com> wrote:
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets hang
past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am finding
that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on the undercambered
bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
Kenneth M. Heide, BA,CPO,FAAOP
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
That's how I did mine...1" belt sander with a fine, slightly worn belt
and held the rib at an angle to the belt so it just knocks off the
gusset material. A new belt would be way too hard to control. I used the
unsupported part of the belt. I did lightly tick the corner of the
spruce once in a while, not a biggie. Just have to take it slow and
careful. That was the only efficient way I could think of to do it but
there are probably others......Ed G. Fl. West coast
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Kraut<mailto:brian.kraut@engalt.com>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets
hang past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I
am finding that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks,
especially on the undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest
of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List<http://www.matronics.co
m/Navigator?Pietenpol-List>
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| Subject: | Cabane strut and fitting question |
Help guys,
Checked pictures and archives and could use your input. My cabane
fittings are about =BE in wide ID (where the strut connects). My
aluminum (Barry Davis) struts are a little over an inch wide OD. Is it
better to have the strut fit OVER the fitting, inside the fitting or
attach to the fitting via internal block that extends out past the
strut. That's about clear as mud, sorry! And thanks!
Jack Textor
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Brian,
I first used a router to trim, and then beveled the edges on my 12" disk
sander.
Jack Textor
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Kraut
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets
hang past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I
am finding that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks,
especially on the undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest
of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
Router with a laminate cut-off bit.
Jim Lathrop
On 9/20/07, Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com> wrote:
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> The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets
> hang past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am
> finding that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on
> the undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded
> them?
>
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
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My Dremel tool came with a router attachment. It took awhile to set up, but then
it was guaranteed to cut the ply off at 45 degrees and not touch the spruce.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Kraut
Sent: 9/20/2007 5:24:03 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets hang past
the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am finding that
it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on the undercambered
bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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Router, with a flush cut bit on a router table.
Steve e
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets hang
past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am findin
g that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on the un
dercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cabane strut and fitting question |
Use an internal block inside the strut then go down to 3/4" outside.
Check out a Cessna 150 for ideas.
BED
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack T. Textor
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cabane strut and fitting question
Help guys,
Checked pictures and archives and could use your input. My cabane
fittings are about =BE in wide ID (where the strut connects). My
aluminum (Barry Davis) struts are a little over an inch wide OD. Is it
better to have the strut fit OVER the fitting, inside the fitting or
attach to the fitting via internal block that extends out past the
strut. That's about clear as mud, sorry! And thanks!
Jack Textor
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
Brian,
I used my beloved Dremmel tool. Fitted with the small drum sander.
Utilizes the hand techneque, but you can blend them down nicely.
then when you get them like the pics, you can go over them with a piece
of 1X2 covered in sandpaper to get anything sticking up.
Ain't Life Grand
Walt Evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Kraut
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:19 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets
hang past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I
am finding that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks,
especially on the undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest
of you sanded them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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I will give that a try. I had actually thought of that a while after I
posted the question. The fact that I went to the store today to get some
laminate cut-off bits and a router table to cut some aluminum ribs for a
BD-4 with a thick aluminum template I have for them should have made me
think of it a little sooner. Duh. Then I will just hand sand them at a
slight angle after they are routed.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Lathrop
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:52 PM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sanding ribs
Router with a laminate cut-off bit.
Jim Lathrop
On 9/20/07, Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com> wrote:
The fastest way to sand the little overlaps where the plywood gussets
hang past the spruce sticks on the ribs is to use a belt sander, but I am
finding that it is very easy to sand into the spruce sticks, especially on
the undercambered bottoms of the ribs. How have the rest of you sanded
them?
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
Here's a link to a picture of the router option. The router with the laminate
bit really takes all the risk out of the process and it comes out perfectly every
time.
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=13&filter=0
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Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135582#135582
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| Subject: | Re: Sanding ribs |
Another option, just for the record.
I've also used a standard block plane with a sharp blade. You can knock off the
edges and give it a chamfer with just a few strokes.
Steve e
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sanding ribs
Here's a link to a picture of the router option. The router with the laminate
bit really takes all the risk out of the process and it comes out perfectly every
time.
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=13&filter=0
--------
Glenn Thomas
N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135582#135582
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