---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/22/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:55 AM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (HelsperSew@aol.com) 2. 04:19 AM - Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions (Ryan Michals) 3. 08:01 AM - Re: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions (Dick Navratil) 4. 08:27 AM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (Steve Eldredge) 5. 11:09 AM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (John Egan) 6. 12:59 PM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (Barry Davis) 7. 01:26 PM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (Jim Markle) 8. 03:11 PM - Re: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions (Ben Charvet) 9. 03:19 PM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (AmsafetyC@aol.com) 10. 03:44 PM - Re: Campbell swaging tool??? (Jim Markle) 11. 11:30 PM - Helmet and Goggles (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:49 AM PST US From: HelsperSew@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Jim, I've been flying behind those $13.00 tool swages for years. Still here. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:56 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions From: "Ryan Michals" I am building a standard width, long "improved" Piet. The sup. Plans don't have measurements for the width of the joined fuselage sides, in particular, the empennage. What has everyone else done? Ryan Michals NXxxxCC Clover Clipper ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:45 AM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions I used the width from the short fuse plan. Also, in setting up the bridge decks, I used the dimensions from short fuse. That gave me extra room in rear cockpit. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Michals" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:19 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions > > > I am building a standard width, long "improved" Piet. The sup. Plans > don't have measurements for the width of the joined fuselage sides, in > particular, the empennage. What has everyone else done? > > > Ryan Michals > NXxxxCC > Clover Clipper > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:33 AM PST US From: Steve Eldredge Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? I bought a single action (like bolt cutter) type swager from Home depot abo ut two years ago for $26. Look in the fencing department. I didn't need t hem, but bought them anyway since I really would have liked to have them wh en I built my piet! Stevee From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HelsperSew@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:55 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Jim, I've been flying behind those $13.00 tool swages for years. Still here. Dan Helsper Poplar Grove, IL. ________________________________ ========= ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:14 AM PST US From: John Egan Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Jim M wrote: Anyone know anything about the Campbell hand swaging tool? Regarding the swagging tool discussion: As a reminder, It's my understanding that after we make our nicopress crimps, using a swagging tool, we measure the crimped dimension of the nicopress using the proper gage. I recieved a little gaging tool when I bought my $99 swagging tool from Aircraft Spruce. The gage I recieved is similar to the gage shown in the Tony Bingalis book. __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:47 PM PST US From: "Barry Davis" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? This is the same we used on 6 airplanes. It is adjustable. You can buy it locally (Tractor Supply) if you have one nearby. My suggestion is to buy a GO/NO-GO gauge fron A/Spruce and adjust the pinch to the correct setting, a very simple adjustment. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Markle" Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > > Anyone know anything about the Campbell hand swaging tool? The price is > about $200 less than the "real" nicopress tool but I'm wondering if the > cable will know the difference????? > > I saw an article several years ago (by Bill Rewey I think...) about how to > drill out a cable cutter to make an effective swaging tool...so I wonder > if this one might also do the job satisfatorily. > > It's on eBay at: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=330177809225 > > Item number: 330177809225 > > Anyone ever tried one or know what I might be missing here? > > Thanks! > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:49 PM PST US From: "Jim Markle" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Tractor Supply? If I have one nearby? They know me by first name! :-) This is just what I needed to know. Thanks to everyone for all the very helpful input. I'm a lot more comforable with the idea now... I really appreciate everyone's help... JM in Seattle...for the week...hoping to have time to go to the Boeing museum... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Davis" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > This is the same we used on 6 airplanes. It is adjustable. You can buy it > locally (Tractor Supply) if you have one nearby. My suggestion is to buy a > GO/NO-GO gauge fron A/Spruce and adjust the pinch to the correct setting, > a very simple adjustment. > Barry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Markle" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:18 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > >> >> >> Anyone know anything about the Campbell hand swaging tool? The price is >> about $200 less than the "real" nicopress tool but I'm wondering if the >> cable will know the difference????? >> >> I saw an article several years ago (by Bill Rewey I think...) about how >> to drill out a cable cutter to make an effective swaging tool...so I >> wonder if this one might also do the job satisfatorily. >> >> It's on eBay at: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=330177809225 >> >> Item number: 330177809225 >> >> Anyone ever tried one or know what I might be missing here? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:04 PM PST US From: Ben Charvet Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Stuck on fuselage joining dimensions I just used the dimensions on the original plans at each station. Seemed to work out fine Ben Ryan Michals wrote: > > I am building a standard width, long "improved" Piet. The sup. Plans don't have measurements for the width of the joined fuselage sides, in particular, the empennage. What has everyone else done? > > > Ryan Michals > NXxxxCC > Clover Clipper > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? From: AmsafetyC@aol.com I was reading in one of my magazines that if you know a builder in Oklahoma, then you don't need to buy one for your airplane. Let me know when you buy the tool and get it figured out for the perfect clamp pressure. Then put me first on the listto borrow it since I won't need my own! You got that part covered John Bout time you got back in the game Hope all is well with you on the ranch! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Jim Markle" To: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Tractor Supply? If I have one nearby? They know me by first name! :-) This is just what I needed to know. Thanks to everyone for all the very helpful input. I'm a lot more comforable with the idea now... I really appreciate everyone's help... JM in Seattle...for the week...hoping to have time to go to the Boeing museum... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Davis" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > This is the same we used on 6 airplanes. It is adjustable. You can buy it > locally (Tractor Supply) if you have one nearby. My suggestion is to buy a > GO/NO-GO gauge fron A/Spruce and adjust the pinch to the correct setting, > a very simple adjustment. > Barry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Markle" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:18 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > >> >> >> Anyone know anything about the Campbell hand swaging tool? The price is >> about $200 less than the "real" nicopress tool but I'm wondering if the >> cable will know the difference????? >> >> I saw an article several years ago (by Bill Rewey I think...) about how >> to drill out a cable cutter to make an effective swaging tool...so I >> wonder if this one might also do the job satisfatorily. >> >> It's on eBay at: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=330177809225 >> >> Item number: 330177809225 >> >> Anyone ever tried one or know what I might be missing here? >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:23 PM PST US From: Jim Markle Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? Hey, if you know a builder in Oklahoma.....tell me who it is!!! :-) Actually, I spent some time this weekend bolting the wings on and using a laser level thingy to level up the wings. I put an inch of dihedral and an inch of washout in...i may increase the washout a bit...maybe not. If nothing else, it just looks really cool to have the wings on. How are things on the ranch? Hey, we get 5-6 nice fresh eggs every day...life is good! JM -----Original Message----- >From: AmsafetyC@aol.com >Sent: Oct 22, 2007 3:18 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Campbell swaging tool??? > > >I was reading in one of my magazines that if you know a builder in Oklahoma, then you don't need to buy one for your airplane. > >Let me know when you buy the tool and get it figured out for the perfect clamp pressure. Then put me first on the listto borrow it since I won't need my own! You got that part covered > > >John > >Bout time you got back in the game > >Hope all is well with you on the ranch! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:45 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Pietenpol-List: Helmet and Goggles If ya gotta fly--------Ya gotta fly! http://youtube.com/watch?v=sdUUx5FdySs&feature=dir Clif ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.