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1. 04:48 AM - Aluminum struts-what size? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
2. 05:53 AM - Engine builders (Robert Gow)
3. 06:43 AM - Re: Engine builders (HelsperSew@aol.com)
4. 07:57 AM - Re: Engine builders (Rick Holland)
5. 08:07 AM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (Arden Adamson)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (Rick Holland)
7. 11:57 AM - Engine builders (santiago morete)
8. 11:58 AM - Engine builders (santiago morete)
9. 12:51 PM - Re: Engine builders (HelsperSew@aol.com)
10. 12:55 PM - Re: Engine builders (HelsperSew@aol.com)
11. 01:29 PM - Bug Strike (Tom Stinemetze)
12. 04:51 PM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (John Egan)
13. 05:08 PM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
14. 05:10 PM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (HelsperSew@aol.com)
15. 05:52 PM - Re: Aluminum struts-what size? (carson)
16. 07:14 PM - Engine builders (santiago morete)
17. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: Instruments......... (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
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Subject: | Aluminum struts-what size? |
Gentlemen, (and one lady in Italy)
I am very happy to report that at long last (7 years +) that I am finally at
the stage of buying some wing strut material. I am looking to use aluminum
wing struts for the weight savings. In my research I see that there are
various suppliers that have this material (A/CS, Wicks, Carlsons, Skytech) in
various sizes. Can anyone with experience help me with the selection of material
size? I have been delinquent on my trips to Brodhead to take any
measurements. Engineering types please feel free to chime-in to the discussion.
Please
help.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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I recently contacted a Model A engine builder about building up an engine
for my Piet with a few mods for extra power (heads, bearings and so forth)
They declined because their insurance would not allow them to build an
engine for an aircraft. I assume others have had that problem as well . Do
you simply neglect to mention that the engine is intended for an aircraft or
is there someone put there who will build an engine up for a Piet? I wanted
a shop that does A engines all the time, has the speed mod bits and can dyno
the resulting engine.
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Engine builders |
Bob,
I got mine built-up by Antique Engine Rebuilder's in Skokie Illinois. The
prop's name is Rich Faluca. This guy is very well known among the Model A auto
restorers. He was very cooperative and knowledgeable on the Pietenpols, and
even pulled out his set of Piet plans when I was there. That is all he does is
rebuild antique auto engines. He will willingly answer all your questions. He
was able to supply an aluminum cam gear, chevy pistons, rebuilt cam shaft,
and counter-weighted crankshaft. He drilled and tapped the hole that goes down
and out of the valve chamber. He also can include modern insert bearings all
around. Also modern piston rods. He also supplied a rebuilt oil pump. I have
not run my engine yet but it feels good so far. He has a websight.
_http://www.antiqueenginerebuilding.com/
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
_ (http://www.antiqueenginerebuilding.com/)
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Subject: | Re: Engine builders |
I just tell people that my corvair engine is for an air boat, but choosing a
model A for an air boat may sound a little weird.
Rick
On 10/27/07, Robert Gow <rgow@avionicsdesign.ca> wrote:
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> I recently contacted a Model A engine builder about building up an engine
> for my Piet with a few mods for extra power (heads, bearings and so forth)
> They declined because their insurance would not allow them to build an
> engine for an aircraft. I assume others have had that problem as well . Do
> you simply neglect to mention that the engine is intended for an aircraft or
> is there someone put there who will build an engine up for a Piet? I wanted
> a shop that does A engines all the time, has the speed mod bits and can dyno
> the resulting engine.
>
> Bob
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Subject: | Aluminum struts-what size? |
Dan,
Your Model A and panel look beautiful!!!! Great job. For those of us
who are not as far along it's an inspiration to keep building.
Arden Adamson
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Aluminum struts-what size?
Gentlemen, (and one lady in Italy)
I am very happy to report that at long last (7 years +) that I am
finally at the stage of buying some wing strut material. I am looking to
use aluminum wing struts for the weight savings. In my research I see
that there are various suppliers that have this material (A/CS, Wicks,
Carlsons, Skytech) in various sizes. Can anyone with experience help me
with the selection of material size? I have been delinquent on my trips
to Brodhead to take any measurements. Engineering types please feel free
to chime-in to the discussion. Please help.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum struts-what size? |
Beautiful instrument panel Dan, some of those instruments look like
authentic 1930s vintage.
Rick
On 10/27/07, HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
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> Gentlemen, (and one lady in Italy)
>
> I am very happy to report that at long last (7 years +) that I am finally
> at the stage of buying some wing strut material. I am looking to use
> aluminum wing struts for the weight savings. In my research I see that there
> are various suppliers that have this material (A/CS, Wicks, Carlsons,
> Skytech) in various sizes. Can anyone with experience help me with the
> selection of material size? I have been delinquent on my trips to Brodhead
> to take any measurements. Engineering types please feel free to chime-in to
> the discussion. Please *help*.
>
>
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
> <HR style="MARGIN-T
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>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Hi Dan!
Our engine is being reibuilding right now, so I have a couple of questions. You
said "He drilled and tapped the hole that goes down and out of the valve chamber"
What is that!!?? Am I missing something?
Also you said you have an aluminum cam gear, I can only find the one made of
fiber. Could it be a problem? Any thoughts on how much can last?
Thanks!
Santiago
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Hi Dan!
Our engine is being reibuilding right now, so I have a couple of questions. You
said "He drilled and tapped the hole that goes down and out of the valve chamber"
What is that!!?? Am I missing something?
Also you said you have an aluminum cam gear, I can only find the one made of
fiber. Could it be a problem? Any thoughts on how much can last?
Thanks!
Santiago
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Todo lo que tens que saber sobre Elecciones Presidenciales 2007 encontralo en Yahoo!
Noticias.
http://ar.news.yahoo.com/elecciones2007/
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Subject: | Re: Engine builders |
Santiago,
In the attached foto, in the lower right hand corner is shown the
hole/fitting I am referring to. It is shown on the 1933 plans. Write back with
questions if this is not clear.
Amigos,
Dan
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Subject: | Re: Engine builders |
Santiago,
Ken Perkins (Model A guru) recommends the aluminum cam gear. This can be
obtained at Snyder's Antique Auto Parts. _http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/_
(http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/)
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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<But that bee'ing >
<said, got hit in chest by bubblebee one time at about 70mph,
looked down a >
<splatter, thought I had been shot, left nice welt, always wear
Harley >
<chopper goggles and my leather helmet, eat your heart out Waldo
Pepper.>
I will echo that as I once caught a wasp in the chest at about 70 mph on
a motorcycle. I had to stop by the side of the road and gasp for a
while. Thought I was having a heart attack. I'm not quite sure how a
wasp - bee - etc. would get around the windscreen to smack you in a Piet
though - unless he hit you from behind.
Tom Stinemetze
Enjoying a beautiful Fall in McPherson, KS.
____ | ____
\8/
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum struts-what size? |
Dan,
Regarding aluminum strut size:
I'm also in the building stage, and my project has not flown yet, so I have no
flying hours on my struts. I bought strut material from Skytec. I will use
the large 3-1/8" x 1-3/16" for my wing struts and 2-7/16" x 15/16" for my cabane
struts. I chose to use the same large strut material for my rear wing struts
as the front struts so all my end fittings are the same in design and size
for ease of construction. I believe a person could use the 2-7/16" strut material
for at least the rear strut if a person decided to, as much of the tensile
load required to hold the wings in place will come from the diagonal external
brace wires located between the two wing struts, and in this case, I will use
1/8" cable and attach the cable to the fuselage fittings and the spar fittings
(not to the struts themselves).
I asked the folks at Skytec if I could order a short sample of strut material
before placing my order, and the kind folks there offered to send me sample pieces
of each size at no charge. They also included a sample of very small aluminum
streamline tubing that is probably 1-1/4" across the wide dimension. Maybe
this material would be useful for jury struts?
I hope this helps, and I am certain that there are a number of reasonable options
to choose from.
John
in Greenville, Wisconsin who painted Corvair engine sheet metal pieces today
with high temp primer...
HelsperSew@aol.com wrote:
Gentlemen, (and one lady in Italy)
Can anyone with experience help me with the selection of material size?
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum struts-what size? |
John,
Thank you for your
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum struts-what size? |
John,
Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it. I have heard others
(archives) have done the same thing.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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Subject: | Re: Aluminum struts-what size? |
Dan
That panel looks great,Could I ask where you got the instruments and the mag switch.
I would like to have something similar and have looked in the AS&S cat and the
internet but can't seem to find anything.
Thanks
Carson
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Thanks Dan, I misunderstood what you wrote. I was thinking of something like a
oil drain hole.
I will try to get an aluminum cam gear, just for peace of mind.
Looking at your fittings, I wondering what colors and paint schema have you in
mind? But.....keep the answer for you, sure will be a nice surprise
Congratulations again for your wonderful work!
Buena suerte
Santiago
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Subject: | Re: Instruments......... |
Ditto's.....Yes where can you find these kind of instruments?
Ken H
Fargo, ND
carson <carsonvella@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Dan
That panel looks great,Could I ask where you got the instruments and the mag switch.
I would like to have something similar and have looked in the AS&S cat and the
internet but can't seem to find anything.
Thanks
Carson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142221#142221
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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