---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/07/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:18 AM - What Listers Are Saying... (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:43 AM - Re: sky scout -- FISHER (Tim Willis) 2. 06:49 AM - Re: sky scout -- FISHER (Tim Willis) 3. 12:10 PM - Props for sale (Don Emch) 4. 03:32 PM - Filler neck (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) 5. 07:24 PM - Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo! (Scott Schreiber) 6. 07:45 PM - Re: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo! (Don Emch) 7. 10:39 PM - Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:55 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: What Listers Are Saying... 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Albert G. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:36 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER Ken and Dick, I just looked at the Fisher site. Today they offer PLANS ONLY for all models, and moreover, they have pricing for only a few models that they show, as well. That 7/8 scale wooden Tiger Moth is available in plans, though, and looks really cool. There's not a "Piet builders board" equivalent for it, though, I'll bet-- a major asset for us Pieters. It looks like they are tyring to return to strong builder roots, and I for one hope Fisher completes its plans to make both plans and kits available. My local (Austin) EAA chapter has one bloke building a Skybolt, another a Cozy on a very long-term build, and my halting Piet efforts. ALL the others are RVs-- 14,400 rivets. What's the fun in that? Tim in central TX -----Original Message----- >From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" >Sent: Nov 6, 2007 11:19 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout > >Hey Dick..... Every looked at any of the kit planes at Fisher Flying Products since they are of wooden build? Just a thought....... > > Sincerely, > > Village idiot. > >Dick Navratil wrote: > Thanks Brian and Dale for the comments. I was thinking of the Sky Scout in particular because it is a fiamiliar design to me. I also considered a VP-2 and other simple designs. The deal I would make with the school is to move my shop tools into the school workshop, I will supply all materials and supplies and then the plane will be mine. >The school would have no expense except for a teacher from the Physics class who would put it into the class schedule. > Dick > > > >Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP > > __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:43 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER Maybe I looked at an old website for Fisher. Other data show they do have kits, esp. the Tiger Moth. Google it. -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Willis >Sent: Nov 7, 2007 8:39 AM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER > >Ken and Dick, > I just looked at the Fisher site. Today they offer PLANS ONLY for all models, and moreover, they have pricing for only a few models that they show, as well. That 7/8 scale wooden Tiger Moth is available in plans, though, and looks really cool. There's not a "Piet builders board" equivalent for it, though, I'll bet-- a major asset for us Pieters. > It looks like they are tyring to return to strong builder roots, and I for one hope Fisher completes its plans to make both plans and kits available. My local (Austin) EAA chapter has one bloke building a Skybolt, another a Cozy on a very long-term build, and my halting Piet efforts. ALL the others are RVs-- 14,400 rivets. What's the fun in that? > >Tim in central TX > >-----Original Message----- >>From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" >>Sent: Nov 6, 2007 11:19 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout >> >>Hey Dick..... Every looked at any of the kit planes at Fisher Flying Products since they are of wooden build? Just a thought....... >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Village idiot. >> >>Dick Navratil wrote: >> Thanks Brian and Dale for the comments. I was thinking of the Sky Scout in particular because it is a fiamiliar design to me. I also considered a VP-2 and other simple designs. The deal I would make with the school is to move my shop tools into the school workshop, I will supply all materials and supplies and then the plane will be mine. >>The school would have no expense except for a teacher from the Physics class who would put it into the class schedule. >> Dick >> >> >> >> >> >>Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP >> >> __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Props for sale From: "Don Emch" Hi Guys, I've always wanted a Falcon prop for my Piet. I finally found one that I like. It sounds kind of stupid but I'm putting it on the plane for sentimental/nostalgic reasons. Anyway I have to clear out the props that I have. They are both for an A-65 Continental. One is a Hegy 72 x 44. It has about 140 hours on it and is in nice shape. It performed really well on my plane. The other is a Sterba 76 x 38. This size was decided on after talking with several prop carvers. I really like it's performance. It is about 6 months old. It has about 45 hours on it. I've really enjoyed trying different props on my plane, but I want to put the Falcon on for those strange sentimental/nostalgic reasons. Anyway I'd like to get $325 out of the Hegy and $500 out of the Sterba. I'm going to put them on ebay but I thought it would be cool if they went on a Piet. If anyone is interested they can email me at EmchAir@aol.com or call me at (330) 429-5265 If you hurry and you're close by you can go for a ride behind the Sterba because it's still on the plane! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144461#144461 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:55 PM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Filler neck Members of the list: I am in search of an aluminum filler neck for my fuel tank. I have found a few abut need one with some height and a threaded fuel cap. Anyone in Pietenpol land have a supplier for this aluminum filler neck for my gas tank under construction? Also, are most using the cork type visual wire fuel indicator or the mechanical gage? Ken H. Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:20 PM PST US From: "Scott Schreiber" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo! Per the plans it can be 1/16 ply or cardboard, I read about oatmeal cans being used, so clearly it isn't structural. I bought 45degree ply on the advice of an EAA senior member. Trying to use it seems impossible. It just won't conform and wants to warp and roll every way and doesn't remotely look like the shape of the ribs when tacked down in place. I am thinking I should have gone with 1/16 90 degree with the grain running parallel with the wing. I have a few feet of that laying around and it seems to conform and shape nicely. Another senior member and technical advisor recomended using 1/32 for a number of reasons. I have some of that as well from models and it conforms like a champ, but of course is thinner, and I don't know how it would hold it's shape against fabric. Other than that, my wings are ready to cover, and if the fuse can get covered and the control system done over the winter then I am looking good for a Piet summer. Also, I am about a week out from doing my first solo as it looks. Man I can't wait. -Scott ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo! From: "Don Emch" 1/16" 90 degree plywood with the grain running parallel to the wing is pretty much the norm. It conforms fairly well to the airfoil. When glued down to the ribs it does tend to bow up between the ribs. However once the wings are covered, the fabric pulls that same bowed up plywood down slightly between the ribs and gives the wing a nice smooth shape. Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144534#144534 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:52 PM PST US From: Clif Dawson Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore You want low and slow? I give you low and slow! 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