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     1. 06:26 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 11/07/07 (tbyh@aol.com)
     2. 07:25 AM - Horn angles (rudder & elevators) (Jack T. Textor)
     3. 07:41 AM - Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) (HelsperSew@aol.com)
     4. 08:53 AM - Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) (Rick Holland)
     5. 08:55 AM - filler neck (Oscar Zuniga)
     6. 09:53 AM - Re: filler neck (Rick Holland)
     7. 09:58 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 11/07/07 (Mike Kerley)
     8. 10:45 AM - Re: filler neck (Brian Kraut)
     9. 12:44 PM - Re: filler neck (HelsperSew@aol.com)
    10. 02:13 PM - Cont. cam followers (Oscar Zuniga)
    11. 04:07 PM - Dallas: Aircraft Engine & Accessory: cam followers (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
    12. 04:13 PM - Re: Cont. cam followers (Brian Kraut)
    13. 04:25 PM - Sky Scout for sale (Brian Kraut)
    14. 06:19 PM - Re: Sky Scout for sale (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
    15. 07:19 PM - Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) (gcardinal)
    16. 07:47 PM - Re: New Piet on the block (Skip Gadd)
    17. 08:47 PM - Re: Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore (Steve Eldredge)
    18. 10:15 PM - Re: New Piet on the block (Skip Gadd)
    19. 11:53 PM - Re: Cont. cam followers (Gene & Tammy)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 11/07/07 | 
      
      
      Got the latest Sport Aviation magazine yesterday -- says that Kermit Pietenpol
      has passed away. I never met him or talked to him, but we should all acknowledge
      his passing. 
      
      Fred B.
      La Crosse, WI
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| Subject:  | Horn angles (rudder & elevators) | 
      
      Morning from chilly Des Moines,
      
      I saw plenty of discussion of whether or not to angle the horns or leave
      them straight in the archives, but no mention of the amount.  I plan on
      angling the elevator horns in 12 degrees and the rudder horn down 13
      degrees.  Does this seem appropriate?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jack Textor
      
      www.textors.com 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) | 
      
      Jack,
      
      I waited to mount those horns until I could clamp all the surfaces in place  
      so I could just pull a string and see what those angles were.  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) | 
      
      Agreed, I did what Dan did. Just have to wait till your fuselage (and rear
      controls) are mostly done before drilling the holes. Then you can get the
      angle exact.
      
      Rick
      
      On Nov 8, 2007 8:34 AM, <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
      
      >  Jack,
      >
      > I waited to mount those horns until I could clamp all the surfaces in
      > place so I could just pull a string and see what those angles were.
      > Dan Helsper
      > Poplar Grove, IL.
      >
      >
      > ------------------------------
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      ObjectAge Ltd.
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
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      Ken wrote-
      
      >Anyone in Pietenpol land have a supplier for this aluminum filler neck for
       my gas tank under construction?
      
      When in doubt, go to the automotive guys.  Check out Summit Racing or Jeg's
      ... they both carry parts and pieces for fabricating tanks and radiators th
      at use filler necks with and without overflow.  "Moroso" is one brand of fi
      ller necks and caps that you'll find there.  I bought one from Summit Racin
      g to fabricate the filler neck for my smoke tank out of (not yet complete).
      >are most using the cork type visual wire fuel indicator or the mechanical 
      gage?
      
      41CC has the good old float rod system and it works great.  I sometimes won
      der what kind of moonshine jugs Corky got the two big corks off of that he 
      made the float out of, but they seem to float fine.  Corky also used brass 
      rod for the float rod and filed small notches in the rod to mark off each g
      allon.  You can't see the notches from the cockpit (or at least my old eyes
       can't), but there really isn't much need to know exact quantity anyway.  S
      he's either got fuel or she ain't, and if you have to count notches you pro
      bably should have been looking for a landing spot a while ago anyway ;o)
      Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://w
      ww.flysquirrel.net
      
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      ACS has one with a screw in neck and cap on a chain, worked fine on my AL
      tank. Surprisingly inexpensive also.
      
      Rick
      
      On Nov 8, 2007 9:49 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      >  Ken wrote-
      >
      > >Anyone in Pietenpol land have a supplier for this aluminum filler neck
      > for my gas tank under construction?
      >
      > When in doubt, go to the automotive guys.  Check out Summit Racing or
      > Jeg's... they both carry parts and pieces for fabricating tanks and
      > radiators that use filler necks with and without overflow.  "Moroso" is one
      > brand of filler necks and caps that you'll find there.  I bought one from
      > Summit Racing to fabricate the filler neck for my smoke tank out of (not yet
      > complete).
      >
      > >are most using the cork type visual wire fuel indicator or the mechanical
      > gage?
      >
      > 41CC has the good old float rod system and it works great.  I sometimes
      > wonder what kind of moonshine jugs Corky got the two big corks off of that
      > he made the float out of, but they seem to float fine.  Corky also used
      > brass rod for the float rod and filed small notches in the rod to mark off
      > each gallon.  You can't see the notches from the cockpit (or at least my old
      > eyes can't), but there really isn't much need to know exact quantity
      > anyway.  She's either got fuel or she ain't, and if you have to count
      > notches you probably should have been looking for a landing spot a while ago
      > anyway ;o)
      >
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > San Antonio, TX
      > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      ObjectAge Ltd.
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
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      MATT PLEASE MAKE IT EASIER TO UNSUBSCRIBE.
      
      I can fly an airplane at night in a thunderstorm by myself, but I sure as heck
      can't unsubscribe from MATRONICS!
      
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           0. 12:18 AM - What Listers Are Saying...  (Matt Dralle)
           1. 06:43 AM - Re: sky scout -- FISHER  (Tim Willis)
           2. 06:49 AM - Re: sky scout -- FISHER  (Tim Willis)
           3. 12:10 PM - Props for sale  (Don Emch)
           4. 03:32 PM - Filler neck  (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
           5. 07:24 PM - Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo!  (Scott
      Schreiber)
           6. 07:45 PM - Re: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo!  (Don
      Emch)
           7. 10:39 PM - Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore  (Clif Dawson)
      
      
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      Subject: Pietenpol-List: What Listers Are Saying...
      
      
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      ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 06:43:36 AM PST US
      From: Tim Willis 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER
      
      
      Ken and Dick,
          I just looked at the Fisher site.  Today they offer PLANS ONLY for all models,
      and moreover, they have pricing for only a few models that they show, as well.
      That 7/8 scale wooden Tiger Moth is available in plans, though, and looks
      really cool.  There's not a "Piet builders board" equivalent for it, though,
      I'll bet-- a major asset for us Pieters.
          It looks like they are tyring to return to strong builder roots, and I for
      one hope Fisher completes its plans to make both plans and kits available.  My
      local (Austin) EAA chapter has one bloke building a Skybolt, another a Cozy on
      a very long-term build, and my halting Piet efforts.  ALL the others are RVs--
      14,400 rivets.  What's the fun in that?
      
      Tim in central TX
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" 
      >Sent: Nov 6, 2007 11:19 PM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout 
      >
      >Hey Dick..... Every looked at any of the kit planes at Fisher Flying Products
      since they are of wooden build? Just a thought.......
      >   
      >  Sincerely,
      >   
      >  Village idiot.
      >
      >Dick Navratil  wrote:
      >          Thanks Brian and Dale for the comments.  I was thinking of the Sky Scout
      in particular because it is a fiamiliar design to me.  I also considered
      a VP-2 and other simple designs. The deal I would make with the school is to move
      my shop tools into the school workshop, I will supply all materials and supplies
      and then the plane will be mine.  
      >The school would have no expense except for a teacher from the Physics class who
      would put it into the class schedule.
      >  Dick
      >   
      >
      >
      >Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
      >
      > __________________________________________________
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 06:49:43 AM PST US
      From: Tim Willis 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER
      
      
      Maybe I looked at an old website for Fisher.  Other data show they do have kits,
      esp. the Tiger Moth.  Google it.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Tim Willis 
      >Sent: Nov 7, 2007 8:39 AM
      >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout -- FISHER
      >
      >Ken and Dick,
      >    I just looked at the Fisher site.  Today they offer PLANS ONLY for all models,
      and moreover, they have pricing for only a few models that they show, as
      well.  That 7/8 scale wooden Tiger Moth is available in plans, though, and looks
      really cool.  There's not a "Piet builders board" equivalent for it, though,
      I'll bet-- a major asset for us Pieters.
      >    It looks like they are tyring to return to strong builder roots, and I for
      one hope Fisher completes its plans to make both plans and kits available.  My
      local (Austin) EAA chapter has one bloke building a Skybolt, another a Cozy
      on a very long-term build, and my halting Piet efforts.  ALL the others are RVs--
      14,400 rivets.  What's the fun in that?
      >
      >Tim in central TX
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >>From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" 
      >>Sent: Nov 6, 2007 11:19 PM
      >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      >>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: sky scout 
      >>
      >>Hey Dick..... Every looked at any of the kit planes at Fisher Flying Products
      since they are of wooden build? Just a thought.......
      >>   
      >>  Sincerely,
      >>   
      >>  Village idiot.
      >>
      >>Dick Navratil  wrote:
      >>          Thanks Brian and Dale for the comments.  I was thinking of the Sky
      Scout in particular because it is a fiamiliar design to me.  I also considered
      a VP-2 and other simple designs. The deal I would make with the school is to
      move my shop tools into the school workshop, I will supply all materials and supplies
      and then the plane will be mine.  
      >>The school would have no expense except for a teacher from the Physics class
      who would put it into the class schedule.
      >>  Dick
      >>   
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
      >>
      >> __________________________________________________
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 12:10:21 PM PST US
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Props for sale
      From: "Don Emch" 
      
      
      Hi Guys,
      
      I've always wanted a Falcon prop for my Piet.  I finally found one that I like.
      It sounds kind of stupid but I'm putting it on the plane for sentimental/nostalgic
      reasons.  Anyway I have to clear out the props that I have.  They are both
      for an A-65 Continental.  One is a Hegy 72 x 44.  It has about 140 hours on
      it and is in nice shape.  It performed really well on my plane.  The other is
      a Sterba 76 x 38.  This size was decided on after talking with several prop
      carvers.  I really like it's performance.  It is about 6 months old.  It has about
      45 hours on it.  I've really enjoyed trying different props on my plane,
      but I want to put the Falcon on for those strange sentimental/nostalgic reasons.
      Anyway I'd like to get $325 out of the Hegy and $500 out of the Sterba.  I'm
      going to put them on ebay but I thought it would be cool if they went on a
      Piet.  If anyone is interested they can email me at 
      EmchAir@aol.com
      or call me at (330) 429-5265
      If you hurry and you're close by you can go for a ride behind the Sterba because
      it's still on the plane!
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144461#144461
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 03:32:55 PM PST US
      From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Filler neck
      
      Members of the list:
         
        I am in search of an aluminum filler neck for my fuel tank. I have found a few
      abut need one with some height and a threaded fuel cap. Anyone in Pietenpol
      land have a supplier for this aluminum filler neck for my gas tank under construction?
      Also, are most using the cork type visual wire fuel indicator or the
      mechanical gage?
         
        Ken H.
      
      
      Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
      
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      ________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 07:24:20 PM PST US
      From: "Scott Schreiber" 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo!
      
      Per the plans it can be 1/16 ply or cardboard, I read about oatmeal cans 
      being used, so clearly it isn't structural. I bought 45degree ply on the 
      advice of an EAA senior member. Trying to use it seems impossible. It 
      just won't conform and wants to warp and roll every way and doesn't 
      remotely look like the shape of the ribs when tacked down in place. I am 
      thinking I should have gone with 1/16 90 degree with the grain running 
      parallel with the wing. I have a few feet of that laying around and it 
      seems to conform and shape nicely. Another senior member and technical 
      advisor recomended using 1/32 for a number of reasons. I have some of 
      that as well from models and it conforms like a champ, but of course is 
      thinner, and I don't know how it would hold it's shape against fabric. 
      Other than that, my wings are ready to cover, and if the fuse can get 
      covered and the control system done over the winter then I am looking 
      good for a Piet summer.
      
      
      Also, I am about a week out from doing my first solo as it looks. Man I 
      can't wait.
      
         -Scott
      
      ________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 07:45:25 PM PST US
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Leading edge sheet issue, and getting ready to solo!
      From: "Don Emch" 
      
      
      1/16" 90 degree plywood with the grain running parallel to the wing is pretty much
      the norm.  It conforms fairly well to the airfoil.  When glued down to the
      ribs it does tend to bow up between the ribs.  However once the wings are covered,
      the fabric pulls that same bowed up plywood down slightly between the ribs
      and gives the wing a nice smooth shape.
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=144534#144534
      
      
      ________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________
      
      
      Time: 10:39:52 PM PST US
      From: Clif Dawson 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore
      
      
      You want low and slow?
      
      I give you low and slow!
      
      Clif
      
      
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      I just welded one of those into a tank for my Piet also.  It is an aluminum
      flange that you weld to the tank and a steel filler neck that screws into
      the flange.
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/bayonetfuelcaps.php
      
      
      Brian Kraut
      Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
      www.engalt.com
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Holland
        Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:26 PM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: filler neck
      
      
        ACS has one with a screw in neck and cap on a chain, worked fine on my AL
      tank. Surprisingly inexpensive also.
      
        Rick
      
      
        On Nov 8, 2007 9:49 AM, Oscar Zuniga < taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
          Ken wrote-
      
          >Anyone in Pietenpol land have a supplier for this aluminum filler neck
      for my gas tank under construction?
      
          When in doubt, go to the automotive guys.  Check out Summit Racing or
      Jeg's... they both carry parts and pieces for fabricating tanks and
      radiators that use filler necks with and without overflow.  "Moroso" is one
      brand of filler necks and caps that you'll find there.  I bought one from
      Summit Racing to fabricate the filler neck for my smoke tank out of (not yet
      complete).
      
          >are most using the cork type visual wire fuel indicator or the
      mechanical gage?
      
          41CC has the good old float rod system and it works great.  I sometimes
      wonder what kind of moonshine jugs Corky got the two big corks off of that
      he made the float out of, but they seem to float fine.  Corky also used
      brass rod for the float rod and filed small notches in the rod to mark off
      each gallon.  You can't see the notches from the cockpit (or at least my old
      eyes can't), but there really isn't much need to know exact quantity anyway.
      She's either got fuel or she ain't, and if you have to count notches you
      probably should have been looking for a landing spot a while ago anyway ;o)
      
          Oscar Zuniga
          San Antonio, TX
          mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
          website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
        --
        Rick Holland
        ObjectAge Ltd.
        Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      
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      Weldable filler necks----------I believe are available from WAG AERO, in  
      Wis.  
      
      Dan  Helsper
      Poplar Grove, IL.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cont. cam followers | 
      
      
      Looking for some cam followers for Cont. A65/75.  Several of the ones on th
      e 75 core that I bought are pitted and rather than try to grind/polish them
       out, my mechanic thinks we should try to find some.  P/N 21608.  Thanks!Os
      car ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://www
      .flysquirrel.net
      
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| Subject:  | Dallas: Aircraft Engine & Accessory:  cam followers | 
      
      Oscar-- I sent all my Continental parts here and when some didn't meet
      spec the guys there fixed me up with either
      serviceable used/reconditioned for a good price or new at a decent
      price.  I don't know what kind of operation they run
      these days but in the mid 90's they were fantastic to work with.   They
      knew small engine Continentals very well. 
      
      http://www.aea-precision.com/
      
      Mike C.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cont. cam followers | 
      
      Are they the same ones on the 85 and O-200?  I have a ton of parts for them.
      
      Brian Kraut
      Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
      www.engalt.com
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
        Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 3:07 PM
        To: Pietenpol List
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cont. cam followers
      
      
        Looking for some cam followers for Cont. A65/75.  Several of the ones on
      the 75 core that I bought are pitted and rather than try to grind/polish
      them out, my mechanic thinks we should try to find some.  P/N 21608.
      Thanks!
      
        Oscar Zuniga
        San Antonio, TX
        mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
        website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Sky Scout for sale | 
      
      I have a divorce coming up and I need to lighten my load a little.  I have a
      very nice Sky Scout for sale.  The fusalage and engine are from a previously
      flying plane and are complete and ready to go.  The wings and tail were
      taken for another Piet project.  I do have a complete new tail ready to
      cover though.  I also have a complete set of GN-1 ribs already completed.  I
      have the center section spars done and the spruce for the outboard wing
      spars.  I just welded up a very nice aluminum center section wing tank.  All
      metal fittings are completed.  I have the drag wires, pulleys, etc.  All you
      will need to buy to finish this project is the spruce leading edge for the
      wing, plywood or sheet metal to cover the leading edge, material for the
      struts, aileron cables, and covering supplies.  Should be well under $500
      for everything to complete and can be done in probably a few months time.  I
      do also have the covering materials and would sell them with the project,
      but I have another plane I can use them on also.
      
      The engine is a Chrysler 2.2 and it has electric start.  It has a very nice
      wood prop, starter, and alternator.
      
      First $6,500 takes it all.  I am still working on the plane a few times a
      week and price will go up as it gets nearer to completion.  This is really a
      steal.  Craftsmanship on the plane is very good.  The work was done by a guy
      that built several other Piets.
      
      My number is 904-536-1780.  The Plane is in Jacksonville, FL.
      
      Brian Kraut
      Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
      www.engalt.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sky Scout for sale | 
      
      Brian,
         
        I have been down that road.....keep you faith and take the high road. Teflon
      comes to mind. After the smoke clears, you realize everything can grow again,
      your heart, mind and spirit. I lost everything, and I mean everything. Stick to
      your values that were taught to you and soon enough, you will be back in the
      air ready to live life again....Life teaches some very hard lesson....now go
      find your happiness.
         
        Sincerely,
         
        Best wishes....Kenneth M. Heide
      
      
      Brian Kraut <brian.kraut@engalt.com> wrote:
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      MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px  }  BODY.hmmessage {   FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
      Tahoma  }        I have a divorce coming up and I need to lighten my load
      a little.  I have a very nice Sky Scout for sale.  The fusalage and engine
      are from a previously flying plane and are complete and ready to go.  The wings
      and tail were taken for another Piet project.  I do have a complete new tail
      ready to cover though.  I also have a complete set of GN-1 ribs already completed.
      I have the center section spars done and the spruce for the outboard wing
      spars.  I just welded up a very nice aluminum center section wing tank.  All
      metal fittings are completed.  I have the drag wires, pulleys, etc.  All you
      will need to buy to finish this project is the spruce leading edge for the wing,
      plywood or sheet metal to cover the leading edge, material for the struts,
      aileron cables, and covering supplies.  Should be
       well under $500 for everything to complete and can be done in probably a few months
      time.  I do also have the covering materials and would sell them with the
      project, but I have another plane I can use them on also.
         
        The engine is a Chrysler 2.2 and it has electric start.  It has a very nice wood
      prop, starter, and alternator.
         
        First $6,500 takes it all.  I am still working on the plane a few times a week
      and price will go up as it gets nearer to completion.  This is really a steal.
      Craftsmanship on the plane is very good.  The work was done by a guy that
      built several other Piets.
         
        My number is 904-536-1780.  The Plane is in Jacksonville, FL.
         
        Brian Kraut
      Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
      www.engalt.com 
           
      
      
      Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
      
       __________________________________________________
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Horn angles (rudder & elevators) | 
      
      The angled rudder horn might cause some trim issues. Twist the ends of 
      the horn down to meet the rudder cable angle. You will also discover 
      just how strong the plans built control horns are when you try to twist 
      them.
      
      Greg Cardinal
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jack T. Textor 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:59 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Horn angles (rudder & elevators)
      
      
        Morning from chilly Des Moines,
      
        I saw plenty of discussion of whether or not to angle the horns or 
      leave them straight in the archives, but no mention of the amount.  I 
      plan on angling the elevator horns in 12 degrees and the rudder horn 
      down 13 degrees.  Does this seem appropriate?
      
        Thanks,
      
        Jack Textor
      
        www.textors.com 
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New Piet on the block | 
      
      Rick,
      We have one runway lot for sale and one across the runway from us may be on the
      market soon, the rest are sold, there are currently 5 hangar or hangar/apartments
      under construction. You would love it here, density altitude way less than
      you have out west ;o)
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Rick Holland 
      Sent: 11/2/2007 9:39:04 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
      
      
      Or Piet Heaven. Soon you will have more Piets than Broadhead. I am jealous, would
      love to find an air park as nice are yours one of these days.
      
      Rick
      
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| Subject:  | Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore | 
      
      
      Wow.  Wow.  Wow!
      
      Thanks for sending these along!!!
      
      Steve E.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson
      Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:38 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fw: Low Mars - Lake Elsinore
      
      
      You want low and slow?
      
      I give you low and slow!
      
      Clif
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New Piet on the block | 
      
      Barry,
      Let me know when, we will crank up the chili machine.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Barry Davis 
      Sent: 11/2/2007 10:17:16 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
      
      
      Hey Skip, Looks like ya'll are starting a Piet Haven. This may be good enough for
      a flight up there one Saturday
      Barry Davis
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cont. cam followers | 
      
      Oscar,
      Some of the best prices I found when I rebuilt my A65 was with Woody 
      Herman at 1800-279-3168.
      Gene
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Oscar Zuniga 
        To: Pietenpol List 
        Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 2:07 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Cont. cam followers
      
      
        Looking for some cam followers for Cont. A65/75.  Several of the ones 
      on the 75 core that I bought are pitted and rather than try to 
      grind/polish them out, my mechanic thinks we should try to find some.  
      P/N 21608.  Thanks!
      
        Oscar Zuniga
        San Antonio, TX
        mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
        website at http://www.flysquirrel.net 
      
      
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