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1. 10:12 PM - Re: Planer Question (Glenn Thomas)
2. 10:19 PM - Happy Veteran's Day! (Mike Whaley)
3. 11:11 PM - Saturday flyin' (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 11:37 PM - NX92GB Still runnin good "Knock Knock" (shad bell)
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Subject: | Re: Planer Question |
Eric,
I believe you're right!
A woman I work with has a husband that does cabinets and high-end
woodworking for a living and I managed to get to spend some time in his shop
today. He asked me to bring my spruce planks down and he would show me both
tools (jointer and planer).
We looked down the plank from the end, looking for a "smile". The board
that was least straight was the one we worked with first. He said with the
board in the smile position, we would start a couple feet past the cutting
blade on the board only taking off a small amount. As the piece went
through the jointer the first pass established a base plane in the wood. As
he pushed the smile over the cutter working the piece through applying all
the pressure to step it thorugh on the *out-feed* table. This shaves the
flat plane into the bottom of the smile.
Then he made 2 more passes. That was all it took and the board was
completely straight. Then we took it to the planer and finished
the opposite side to make it exactly parallel with the freshly cut bottom
done on the jointer. In 2 passes we got 2 faces of the board parallel and
straight.
He did 3 of my boards and I did the last one. Very simple once you've done
it once.
His recommendations were that the jointer was the heart of his woodshop. He
has 3 and although we did my boards on his ultra high-end jointer, he said
his 8" jointer from Grizzly is perfect for what I'm doing. It's a 3 blade
machine and has never given him a single problem (replacement knives are
about $35 and he has them resharpened). He said it cost $650/delivered 2
years ago. I asked about their 6" and he said because the infeed/outfeed
tables are shorter it would be difficult to work with long boards in the 13
- 16 foot range. His final recommendation was that I probably go with the
Grizzly 8" jointer and get an inexpensive Delta planer.
I'm going with the Grizzly 8" planer now. Nothing beats some hands-on time.
Hope this helps somebody else who is also endlessly shopping for tools! I
would hazard a guess that, so far, 80 - 90% of the project expense has been
in tools. That is OK since I never feel like money spent on a tool is money
wasted (unless the tool breaks).
He said my previous sled idea using only a planer might work but it would be
much easier and reliable to get a good jointer.
Anyway,
Thanks Eric!
On 10/30/07, Eric Williams <ewilliams805@msn.com> wrote:
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> I'm thinking what you really need for this operation is a jointer. Read
> this link:
> http://www.wisegeek.com/how-is-a-jointer-used-in-woodworking.htm
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> Eric
>
> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Planer Question
> > From: glennthomas@flyingwood.com
> > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:30:43 -0700
> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> >
> glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
> >
> > I was thinking I could get by without a planer (as much as I've wanted
> to buy one) and thought of a reason I might be able to justify the purchase.
> I was recently given 4 rough-cut Sitka Spruce boards 2" x 6" x approx. 14'.
> I was hoping to use them for longerons but they have a bit of a warp in
> them. Would the wood still be usable if I were to cut it in to smaller
> pieces (suitable for tail feathers, compression struts, etc.) and clamp the
> smaller pieces into a perfectly straight jig that would hold them in a fixed
> position as I plane off any warpage by passing the whole piece in the jig
> through a planer? The pieces are not badly warped, just not perfect, and if
> I used them for small pieces, what I call warpage might even be acceptable
> for some folks without planing. I could just buy more spruce but I'm sure
> I'd find uses for the planer in the future. Has anybody heard of using a
> planer for this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --------
> > Glenn Thomas
> > N?????
> > http://www.flyingwood.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142637#142637
> > *>
> >
> >
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Glenn Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
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Subject: | Happy Veteran's Day! |
I know this is a little off the topic of Piets...
To all the folks out there who served in the military in any capacity
whatsoever... I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your service to defend the
freedom we all enjoy!
Oooh-rah, Bravo Zulu, Aim High and Hoo-ahh to you all!
-Mike
Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net
Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association
http://www.ov-10bronco.net/
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Awfully quiet on the list lately. I've been on vacation for more than two
weeks myself and really missed not flying, but today made up for that. I f
inished changing out the tail brace wires on 41CC from galvanized to stainl
ess and took it up for a test flight. Good day for it, too... gusty, bumpy
, windy. I operated it off the grass and had a great time. Couple of more
hours I'll keep checking the brace wire tension and tweak the turnbuckles
once everything stretches in.
Tomorrow two gents are coming out to see the airplane and try it on. They
have ordered plans from Pietenpol but our EAA Tech Counselor suggested that
they see how they fit in mine before getting too far into the project. Th
ey are a father & son team, with the son being a Southwest Airlines captain
and the father being a retired high-time military fighter pilot. We'll se
e how they fit!Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebs
ite at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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Subject: | NX92GB Still runnin good "Knock Knock" |
Hello guys, stil flying the piet, although much more bundled up. Flew for about
an hour today with temps about 45-50 degrees. It climbs like a bat out of hell
but I'm a lot colder than Hell, ( must be because I'm climbing closer to Heaven).
I am pretty comfortable with long johns, and a warm ski mask and heavy
gloves for 40 min or so, then my feet go numb. I found a few deer hunters out
in the woods today, easy to spot with the trees bare of leaves. So far I have
put about 30-35 hrs on her since august, and dad with 10 or so more. I think
we finnaly got our Corvair figured out. Hopefully the weather holds out
and we will be flying to Brodhead this next year. For all you Corvair builders
don't be discouraged from our experiance, 2 complete engines for under $3000
ain't too bad( try that with a Continental), just make sure you use 1965 and
later engines and a good reputable shop for your machine work. Looking back I'm
glad it all happened and turnned out OK, I'm a
better pilot for it and a better mechanic having trouble shot some goofy problems.
I still look for a field to put her down at all times and have an "out"
when ever doing the some times "nessasary" buzz jobs. Now all I need is to have
some snow flying around so I can stay in my shop (insted of flying) and get
my Jungstet 1 done. Happy buiding and flying
Shad Bell
NX92GB
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