Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/10/07


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 10:12 PM - Re: Planer Question (Glenn Thomas)
     2. 10:19 PM - Happy Veteran's Day! (Mike Whaley)
     3. 11:11 PM - Saturday flyin' (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 11:37 PM - NX92GB Still runnin good "Knock Knock" (shad bell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:12:30 PM PST US
    From: "Glenn Thomas" <glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
    Subject: Re: Planer Question
    Eric, I believe you're right! A woman I work with has a husband that does cabinets and high-end woodworking for a living and I managed to get to spend some time in his shop today. He asked me to bring my spruce planks down and he would show me both tools (jointer and planer). We looked down the plank from the end, looking for a "smile". The board that was least straight was the one we worked with first. He said with the board in the smile position, we would start a couple feet past the cutting blade on the board only taking off a small amount. As the piece went through the jointer the first pass established a base plane in the wood. As he pushed the smile over the cutter working the piece through applying all the pressure to step it thorugh on the *out-feed* table. This shaves the flat plane into the bottom of the smile. Then he made 2 more passes. That was all it took and the board was completely straight. Then we took it to the planer and finished the opposite side to make it exactly parallel with the freshly cut bottom done on the jointer. In 2 passes we got 2 faces of the board parallel and straight. He did 3 of my boards and I did the last one. Very simple once you've done it once. His recommendations were that the jointer was the heart of his woodshop. He has 3 and although we did my boards on his ultra high-end jointer, he said his 8" jointer from Grizzly is perfect for what I'm doing. It's a 3 blade machine and has never given him a single problem (replacement knives are about $35 and he has them resharpened). He said it cost $650/delivered 2 years ago. I asked about their 6" and he said because the infeed/outfeed tables are shorter it would be difficult to work with long boards in the 13 - 16 foot range. His final recommendation was that I probably go with the Grizzly 8" jointer and get an inexpensive Delta planer. I'm going with the Grizzly 8" planer now. Nothing beats some hands-on time. Hope this helps somebody else who is also endlessly shopping for tools! I would hazard a guess that, so far, 80 - 90% of the project expense has been in tools. That is OK since I never feel like money spent on a tool is money wasted (unless the tool breaks). He said my previous sled idea using only a planer might work but it would be much easier and reliable to get a good jointer. Anyway, Thanks Eric! On 10/30/07, Eric Williams <ewilliams805@msn.com> wrote: > > I'm thinking what you really need for this operation is a jointer. Read > this link: > http://www.wisegeek.com/how-is-a-jointer-used-in-woodworking.htm > > Eric > > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Planer Question > > From: glennthomas@flyingwood.com > > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:30:43 -0700 > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > > glennthomas@flyingwood.com> > > > > I was thinking I could get by without a planer (as much as I've wanted > to buy one) and thought of a reason I might be able to justify the purchase. > I was recently given 4 rough-cut Sitka Spruce boards 2" x 6" x approx. 14'. > I was hoping to use them for longerons but they have a bit of a warp in > them. Would the wood still be usable if I were to cut it in to smaller > pieces (suitable for tail feathers, compression struts, etc.) and clamp the > smaller pieces into a perfectly straight jig that would hold them in a fixed > position as I plane off any warpage by passing the whole piece in the jig > through a planer? The pieces are not badly warped, just not perfect, and if > I used them for small pieces, what I call warpage might even be acceptable > for some folks without planing. I could just buy more spruce but I'm sure > I'd find uses for the planer in the future. Has anybody heard of using a > planer for this? > > > > Thanks > > > > -------- > > Glenn Thomas > > N????? > > http://www.flyingwood.com > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142637#142637 > > *> > > > > > > > * > -- Glenn Thomas Storrs, CT http://www.flyingwood.com


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    Time: 10:19:15 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Whaley" <MerlinFAC@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Happy Veteran's Day!
    I know this is a little off the topic of Piets... To all the folks out there who served in the military in any capacity whatsoever... I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your service to defend the freedom we all enjoy! Oooh-rah, Bravo Zulu, Aim High and Hoo-ahh to you all! -Mike Mike Whaley merlin@ov-10bronco.net Webmaster, OV-10 Bronco Association http://www.ov-10bronco.net/


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    Time: 11:11:17 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Saturday flyin'
    Awfully quiet on the list lately. I've been on vacation for more than two weeks myself and really missed not flying, but today made up for that. I f inished changing out the tail brace wires on 41CC from galvanized to stainl ess and took it up for a test flight. Good day for it, too... gusty, bumpy , windy. I operated it off the grass and had a great time. Couple of more hours I'll keep checking the brace wire tension and tweak the turnbuckles once everything stretches in. Tomorrow two gents are coming out to see the airplane and try it on. They have ordered plans from Pietenpol but our EAA Tech Counselor suggested that they see how they fit in mine before getting too far into the project. Th ey are a father & son team, with the son being a Southwest Airlines captain and the father being a retired high-time military fighter pilot. We'll se e how they fit!Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebs ite at http://www.flysquirrel.net


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    Time: 11:37:15 PM PST US
    From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
    Subject: NX92GB Still runnin good "Knock Knock"
    Hello guys, stil flying the piet, although much more bundled up. Flew for about an hour today with temps about 45-50 degrees. It climbs like a bat out of hell but I'm a lot colder than Hell, ( must be because I'm climbing closer to Heaven). I am pretty comfortable with long johns, and a warm ski mask and heavy gloves for 40 min or so, then my feet go numb. I found a few deer hunters out in the woods today, easy to spot with the trees bare of leaves. So far I have put about 30-35 hrs on her since august, and dad with 10 or so more. I think we finnaly got our Corvair figured out. Hopefully the weather holds out and we will be flying to Brodhead this next year. For all you Corvair builders don't be discouraged from our experiance, 2 complete engines for under $3000 ain't too bad( try that with a Continental), just make sure you use 1965 and later engines and a good reputable shop for your machine work. Looking back I'm glad it all happened and turnned out OK, I'm a better pilot for it and a better mechanic having trouble shot some goofy problems. I still look for a field to put her down at all times and have an "out" when ever doing the some times "nessasary" buzz jobs. Now all I need is to have some snow flying around so I can stay in my shop (insted of flying) and get my Jungstet 1 done. Happy buiding and flying Shad Bell NX92GB __________________________________________________




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