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0. 12:23 AM - Value of the List... (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:55 AM - Re: need technical advice from the pros (Ed G.)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: need technical advice from the pros (Phillips, Jack)
3. 05:33 AM - Re: need technical advice from the pros fuselage (Ryan Michals)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List=Fuel Tank (Ben Charvet)
5. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Ribs (Robert Gow)
6. 07:53 AM - Mystery (dlbenham)
7. 10:14 AM - Re: Mystery (Phillips, Jack)
8. 10:54 AM - Re: Mystery (Bill Church)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: New Piet on the block (Rick Holland)
10. 01:48 PM - Re: Mystery (Skip Gadd)
11. 01:51 PM - Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal (Bill Church)
12. 01:52 PM - Re: New Piet on the block (Skip Gadd)
13. 02:40 PM - Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal (Rick Holland)
14. 02:41 PM - Re: New Piet on the block (Rick Holland)
15. 03:59 PM - Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal (Glenn Thomas)
16. 04:14 PM - Piper Cub airspeed indicator for sale (DJ Vegh)
17. 04:26 PM - Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal (Dave and Connie)
18. 04:55 PM - Re: Ribs (Richard)
19. 06:33 PM - Leading airfoil shape-- scalloped back edge (santiago morete)
20. 07:04 PM - need technical advice from the pros (santiago morete)
21. 07:37 PM - Aeronca threaded strut forks (DJ Vegh)
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| Subject: | Re: need technical advice from the pros |
I glued all of the plywood except for the firewall and had no problems at
all installing the controls, pulleys etc. Leaving the firewall plywood off
until after the front rudder pedals are installed was a big help. I
temporarily nailed an X of thin wood strips accross the firewall opening to
keep the fuselage square while the seatbacks etc. were being installed. Ed
G.
>From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need technical advice from the pros
>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:07 -0700
>
>I held off gluing both plywood sides and the firewall until I had all
>controls and seat parts installed. Thought it made assembly easier although
>many glue the plywood side panels on before joining the sides.
>
>Rick
>
>On Nov 14, 2007 8:11 PM, Marc Dumay <captmarcus@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Good day
> >
> >
> >
> > We are about to assemble the fuselage of our Air Camper.
> >
> > Should we just go ahead and glue all the plywood, seat backs, braces,
>etc.
> > before we do any interior work such as pulleys, rigging.
> >
> > Or is it better to leave a certain section of plywood off to do other
>work
> > first?
> >
> > What is the preferred method in gluing/fastening the ribs to the spars.
> >
> > Does anyone have a detailed photo, of how they fastened the ribs to the
> > spars?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for any advice
> >
> > captmarcus@sympatico.ca
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>ObjectAge Ltd.
>Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | need technical advice from the pros |
I did the same as Ed, except I made a temporary firewall of cheap 1/4"
plywood and nailed it in place. If you can get in to the firewall area,
the rest of the plywood does not get in the way. See attached photo
with a much younger "me" sitting in the fuselage (that picture was taken
about 9 years ago).
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed G.
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need technical advice from the pros
I glued all of the plywood except for the firewall and had no problems
at
all installing the controls, pulleys etc. Leaving the firewall plywood
off
until after the front rudder pedals are installed was a big help. I
temporarily nailed an X of thin wood strips accross the firewall opening
to
keep the fuselage square while the seatbacks etc. were being installed.
Ed
G.
>From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need technical advice from the pros
>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:07 -0700
>
>I held off gluing both plywood sides and the firewall until I had all
>controls and seat parts installed. Thought it made assembly easier
although
>many glue the plywood side panels on before joining the sides.
>
>Rick
>
>On Nov 14, 2007 8:11 PM, Marc Dumay <captmarcus@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > Good day
> >
> >
> >
> > We are about to assemble the fuselage of our Air Camper.
> >
> > Should we just go ahead and glue all the plywood, seat backs,
braces,
>etc.
> > before we do any interior work such as pulleys, rigging.
> >
> > Or is it better to leave a certain section of plywood off to do
other
>work
> > first?
> >
> > What is the preferred method in gluing/fastening the ribs to the
spars.
> >
> > Does anyone have a detailed photo, of how they fastened the ribs to
the
> > spars?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for any advice
> >
> > captmarcus@sympatico.ca
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>ObjectAge Ltd.
>Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: need technical advice from the pros fuselage |
Rick, I am at that point now. What I did was install all the vertical gusset plates,
join the two sides at the tail, install all cross members and struts (without
gusset plates), the firewall and pilot's seat back. At this point I removed
it from the jig. The firewall, pilot's seat back and the tail will keep the
fuselage square, the cross struts keep the sides where they should be. I did
it this way so I could prep and glue the horizontal gussets in the tail and
the floor while it's up side down, then flip the fuselage over to let the glue
to set up. T-88 joints are so much nicer when the pieces are able to sit in the
pooling epoxy (wiping off excess of course) rather than it running out and
down along the braces.
Happy Building,
Ryan M
"Ed G." <flyboy_120@hotmail.com> wrote:
I glued all of the plywood except for the firewall and had no problems at
all installing the controls, pulleys etc. Leaving the firewall plywood off
until after the front rudder pedals are installed was a big help. I
temporarily nailed an X of thin wood strips accross the firewall opening to
keep the fuselage square while the seatbacks etc. were being installed. Ed
G.
>From: "Rick Holland"
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: need technical advice from the pros
>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:07 -0700
>
>I held off gluing both plywood sides and the firewall until I had all
>controls and seat parts installed. Thought it made assembly easier although
>many glue the plywood side panels on before joining the sides.
>
>Rick
>
>On Nov 14, 2007 8:11 PM, Marc Dumay wrote:
>
> > Good day
> >
> >
> >
> > We are about to assemble the fuselage of our Air Camper.
> >
> > Should we just go ahead and glue all the plywood, seat backs, braces,
>etc.
> > before we do any interior work such as pulleys, rigging.
> >
> > Or is it better to leave a certain section of plywood off to do other
>work
> > first?
> >
> > What is the preferred method in gluing/fastening the ribs to the spars.
> >
> > Does anyone have a detailed photo, of how they fastened the ribs to the
> > spars?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for any advice
> >
> > captmarcus@sympatico.ca
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>Rick Holland
>ObjectAge Ltd.
>Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List=Fuel Tank |
I got lucky on the fuel tank, and a guy in my chapter gave it to me. It
came out of a Piper Cub and fits in the nose pretty nicely, although I'm
going to need to extend the filler neck a little bit. I believe it holds
12 gallons
Ben
K
MHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP wrote:
> Ben,
> Where did you get your fuel tank?
> Ken H
>
> */Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> Its been 2 years since I did my fuselage, but as I remember I
> nailed the
> bottom on the fuselage while it was still in the jig, after I
> glued the
> tail post together. This really stiffens up the whole structure. I
> suppose you could wait to nail the side pieces on, but the
> fuselage is
> only 24 inches deep and reaching down to install the fittings
> wasn't a
> problem for me. I just used a chalk line snapped on my building
> table as
> a centerline reference and had the table as level as I could get them
> prior to joining the fuselage sides. I was a lot better at taking
> pictures back then, and you may want to look at some of them at:
> http://www.mykitplane.com/Planes/buildLogReport.cfm?PlaneID=481&FName=Ben&LName=Charvet&PlaneName=Air%20Camper
>
> Scroll down to May-Sept 2005 and there are a few pictures of my
> fuselage. I did wait until the seats were installed before nailing on
> the plywood sides. Don't forget the inner plywood sheeting that
> goes on
> the upper forward part of the fuselage between the firewall and the
> forward cabane struts (I forgot and had to add it later)
>
> Welcome to the list. You will find lots of good advice from others
> that
> have already faced the same questions, and many varying ways folks
> have
> solved the problems. Solving all these problems is part of the fun!
>
> Ben Charvet
> Mims, Fl
>
> Marc Dumay wrote:
> >
> > Fuselage Assembly
> >
> > A question, for the experienced ?
> >
> > Im ready to start assembling the fuselage for our Extended Air
> > Camper, and wonder if the plywood should not be glued on the
> bottom,
> > left and right side, until the interior is complete.
> >
> > Controls, rudder pedals, cable pullys, rigging, etc.
> >
> > Or, should I just put all the plywood on now, and fit everything
> > afterwards.
> >
> > We were going to assemble, the bottom and sides, the internal wood
> > members, and then put the plywood skins on last, after the skeleton
> > framework has dried..
> >
> > What about our plans, to run a piano wire above, and dead centre of
> > the fuselage. To be used for a reference point for square, level
> and a
> > centreline for accuracy?
> >
> > Is there a better way, or place to find more details?.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Captain Marcus
> >
> > Chatham, On
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I paid $350 and haven't even unpacked them before I bought a project. I'll
try to get some pictures this weekend for you.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: November 14, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ribs
Please advise price and if possible, pictures
thanks
Richard
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146055#146055
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Hi Group:
A few weeks ago a long time friend passed away and left me his airplane
project. After hauling the project from Florida to Indiana, and
becoming more familiar with it, I don't know if it is a Pietenpol or a
GN-1 aircamper. He always called it a Pietenpol.
I have ordered the plans (only thing I didn't receive) from Don
Pietenpol and have found several differences in the project. The
cabanes I believe are Piet, (shorter than GN, also rear cabanes lean
back some) landing gear is definitely GN-1 with bungie cords installed,
the wings struts are two different sizes of square tubing, with the
smaller (rear) having a threaded rod end installed to rig wash out. The
center section seems to be a lot wider than the Piet plans, with no
provisions for a wing tank.
The control trim system has an elaborate system of pulleys, cables, and
springs with a crank on the left side of the rear cockpit which appears
to preload the stick for different load conditions. The builder has had
the airframe completely assembled at some point because all of the
controls are installed, all pulleys, cables, etc are in place, control
horns on ailerons, elevators, and rudder are attached.
If anyone could offer information to help identify the project would be
appreciated. If you want, contact me off list at dlbenham@hughes.net.
Thanks
Dallas L. Benham
RR#1 Box 109
Lyons, IN 47443
812-659-3321
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Easiest way to tell a Grega from a Pietenpol is to note where the
landing gear struts attach in comparison to where the lift struts
attach. One a Pietenpol, the landing gear attaches at the same point as
the lift struts, front and rear. On a Grega, the front landing gear
struts are attached at the forward lift strut fitting, but the rear
landing gear struts are forward of the rear lift struts.
Jack Phillips
Pietenpol Air Camper
NX899JP
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dlbenham
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mystery
Hi Group:
A few weeks ago a long time friend passed away and left me his airplane
project. After hauling the project from Florida to Indiana, and
becoming more familiar with it, I don't know if it is a Pietenpol or a
GN-1 aircamper. He always called it a Pietenpol.
I have ordered the plans (only thing I didn't receive) from Don
Pietenpol and have found several differences in the project. The
cabanes I believe are Piet, (shorter than GN, also rear cabanes lean
back some) landing gear is definitely GN-1 with bungie cords installed,
the wings struts are two different sizes of square tubing, with the
smaller (rear) having a threaded rod end installed to rig wash out. The
center section seems to be a lot wider than the Piet plans, with no
provisions for a wing tank.
The control trim system has an elaborate system of pulleys, cables, and
springs with a crank on the left side of the rear cockpit which appears
to preload the stick for different load conditions. The builder has had
the airframe completely assembled at some point because all of the
controls are installed, all pulleys, cables, etc are in place, control
horns on ailerons, elevators, and rudder are attached.
If anyone could offer information to help identify the project would be
appreciated. If you want, contact me off list at dlbenham@hughes.net.
Thanks
Dallas L. Benham
RR#1 Box 109
Lyons, IN 47443
812-659-3321
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Dallas,
First of all, welcome to the list, and enjoy your project, despite the
unfortunate circumstances that led to your recieving it.
I haven't actually seen GN-1 plans personally - only the Pietenpol
plans, but there are a few details that make it a little easier to tell
the two apart.
If your project is not covered yet, it should be a little easier, as the
metal fittings for the GN-1 centersection are quite different from the
Pietenpol fittings. Since you have the Pietenpol plans, you should be
able to see which ones you have.
The Pietenpol control horns are made of light gauge sheet metal, formed
into an airfoil shape, whereas the GN-1 control horns are cut from a
single thickness of heavier sheet metal.
The Pietenpol rudder horns are mounted about half-way up the rudder
(above the horizontal stab), whereas the GN-1 rudder horns are mounted
near the bottom of the rudder (below the H-stab).
The Pietenpol has plywood fuselage sides only as far back as the pilot's
seat, but if made to the plans, the GN-1 has plywood running the full
length of the fuselage.
The distance between the forward cabane strut attach points and the
firewall is a bit bigger (at least it sure looks bigger) in the GN-1
than the Pietenpol.
The Pietenpol has a single stringer running down the outside of the
fuselage, to give the fuse a bit of shape, whereas the GN-1 has two,
making it look a bit rounder.
The true Pietenpol landing gear attaches to the fuselage at the same
points as the lift struts, but the GN-1 landing gear (borrowed from a
Piper Cub) only mates up at the forward lift strut attach point.
The Pietenpol design allows the wing location (relative to the firewall)
to be adjusted forward or backward (usually backward) to compensate for
weight and balance issues. As I understand it, the GN-1 design does not
have this ability.
However, all of the above depends on the builder following the plans.
And it appears that almost every builder thinks of at least one way to
"improve" the plans for either of these two craft, so it becomes very
difficult to tell what is what sometimes. For instance, it sounds like
your friend incorporated a trim system into his (your) project. Neither
plan set includes a trim system (as far as I know).
If you could post a few pictures, a few sharp-eyed list members would
likely be able to tell you what you have.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: New Piet on the block |
Skip
How big are the lots and any idea how much they are going for?
Rick
On Nov 8, 2007 7:22 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Rick,
> We have one runway lot for sale and one across the runway from us may be
> on the market soon, the rest are sold, there are currently 5 hangar or
> hangar/apartments under construction. You would love it here, density
> altitude way less than you have out west ;o)
> Skip
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* 11/2/2007 9:39:04 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
>
> Or Piet Heaven. Soon you will have more Piets than Broadhead. I am
> jealous, would love to find an air park as nice are yours one of these days.
>
> Rick
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
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ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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Dallas.
The back pit in the Grega is allot smaller, 23 1/4", in the Piet it is at least
29" and in the longest fuse is 31".
The front spar is larger than the back spar on the Grega. The Piet, both spars
are the same size.
The aileron cables run out the front spar on the Grega and the rear spar on the
Piet.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: dlbenham
Sent: 11/15/2007 10:57:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mystery
Hi Group:
A few weeks ago a long time friend passed away and left me his airplane project.
After hauling the project from Florida to Indiana, and becoming more familiar
with it, I don't know if it is a Pietenpol or a GN-1 aircamper. He always
called it a Pietenpol.
Thanks
Dallas L. Benham
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| Subject: | Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal |
Regarding the use of plywood for the leading edge, there's a really good
deal available from Boulter Plywood.
They have 1.5mm Okoume Marine Plywood in 4' x 8' sheets on special for
ONLY $23 per sheet! One sheet would do a set of wings.
Here's a web link:
http://www.boulterplywood.com/
Go to the tab at the top of the page for "Specials". It says that it's
an October Special, but they've got a couple thousand sheets, so they
should have some left.
Unfortunately for me, I'm up in Canada, and the cost to ship across the
border is ridiculous. I enquired to the folks at Boulter, for the cost
to ship two or three sheets up to me (I even said it would be okay to
rip them into 12" strips, to keep the costs down), and they came back
with a cost of $150 just for the shipping. It would be a lot cheaper to
have it sent to Alaska. Too bad I don't have an address that ends in
USA.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: New Piet on the block |
Rick,
The lots are an acre, the one for sale now is 25K, and the other will probably
be about the same when it comes on the market.
http://www.geocities.com/haleslanding/
We had a warm spell and I got to fly Felix the other day, colder and rainy now
so it may be awhile before we can go up again. I have been doing a lot of wheel
landings lately, seems I can do better wheel landings more consistently than
3 point.
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
Sent: 11/15/2007 2:52:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
Skip
How big are the lots and any idea how much they are going for?
Rick
On Nov 8, 2007 7:22 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net > wrote:
Rick,
We have one runway lot for sale and one across the runway from us may be on the
market soon, the rest are sold, there are currently 5 hangar or hangar/apartments
under construction. You would love it here, density altitude way less than
you have out west ;o)
Skip
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
Sent: 11/2/2007 9:39:04 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
Or Piet Heaven. Soon you will have more Piets than Broadhead. I am jealous, would
love to find an air park as nice are yours one of these days.
Rick
--
Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal |
Yea Bill, but you get all that "free" health care up there.
Rick
On Nov 15, 2007 2:20 PM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
> Regarding the use of plywood for the leading edge, there's a really good
> deal available from Boulter Plywood.
> They have 1.5mm Okoume Marine Plywood in 4' x 8' sheets on special for
> ONLY $23 per sheet! One sheet would do a set of wings.
> Here's a web link:
>
> http://www.boulterplywood.com/
>
> Go to the tab at the top of the page for "Specials". It says that it's an
> October Special, but they've got a couple thousand sheets, so they should
> have some left.
>
> Unfortunately for me, I'm up in Canada, and the cost to ship across the
> border is ridiculous. I enquired to the folks at Boulter, for the cost to
> ship two or three sheets up to me (I even said it would be okay to rip them
> into 12" strips, to keep the costs down), and they came back with a cost of
> $150 just for the shipping. It would be a lot cheaper to have it sent to
> Alaska. Too bad I don't have an address that ends in USA.
>
>
> Bill C.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: New Piet on the block |
Thanks Skip, and its really nice to have those wheel landings figured out
when a good crosswind comes up. Hales Landing looks like a real pretty spot,
lots of water around you, and viewing it with google maps shows a golf
course not too far away. Very nice.
Rick
On Nov 15, 2007 2:45 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Rick,
> The lots are an acre, the one for sale now is 25K, and the other will
> probably be about the same when it comes on the market.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/haleslanding/
>
> We had a warm spell and I got to fly Felix the other day, colder and rainy
> now so it may be awhile before we can go up again. I have been doing a lot
> of wheel landings lately, seems I can do better wheel landings more
> consistently than 3 point.
>
> Skip
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* 11/15/2007 2:52:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
>
> Skip
>
> How big are the lots and any idea how much they are going for?
>
> Rick
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 7:22 PM, Skip Gadd <skipgadd@earthlink.net > wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> > We have one runway lot for sale and one across the runway from us may be
> > on the market soon, the rest are sold, there are currently 5 hangar or
> > hangar/apartments under construction. You would love it here, density
> > altitude way less than you have out west ;o)
> > Skip
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Rick Holland <at7000ft@gmail.com>
> > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> > *Sent:* 11/2/2007 9:39:04 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: Pietenpol-List: New Piet on the block
> >
> > Or Piet Heaven. Soon you will have more Piets than Broadhead. I am
> > jealous, would love to find an air park as nice are yours one of these days.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > *
> >
> > *
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rick Holland
> ObjectAge Ltd.
> Castle Rock, Colorado
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal |
I'm going to be in Arlington, MA (right down the street from Boulter on
Monday). I'll pick some up while I'm there. Where else on the Piet would
you be able to use that? Too bad it isn't June, I'd offer to pick some up
and take it to Brodhead. This weekend I'll make a materials list and see
what else they have on special.
Thanks Bill,
Glenn
On 11/15/07, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding the use of plywood for the leading edge, there's a really good
> deal available from Boulter Plywood.
> They have 1.5mm Okoume Marine Plywood in 4' x 8' sheets on special for
> ONLY $23 per sheet! One sheet would do a set of wings.
> Here's a web link:
>
> http://www.boulterplywood.com/
>
> Go to the tab at the top of the page for "Specials". It says that it's an
> October Special, but they've got a couple thousand sheets, so they should
> have some left.
>
> Unfortunately for me, I'm up in Canada, and the cost to ship across the
> border is ridiculous. I enquired to the folks at Boulter, for the cost to
> ship two or three sheets up to me (I even said it would be okay to rip them
> into 12" strips, to keep the costs down), and they came back with a cost of
> $150 just for the shipping. It would be a lot cheaper to have it sent to
> Alaska. Too bad I don't have an address that ends in USA.
>
>
> Bill C.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Glenn Thomas
Storrs, CT
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Piper Cub airspeed indicator for sale |
it's on ebay. Came with my Taylorcraft. I pulled it out last November and
it worked when removed. Would need to be re-certified for legal use in
certificated aircraft or use as is in your experimental.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110194134832
DJ Vegh
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| Subject: | Re: Leading airfoil shape-- wood vs. metal |
That seems odd. I bought Okume in Toronto a few years ago to build a
kayak. The US dollar was in a bit better shape then. When I crossed the
border with the wood hanging out of the back of my pickup they let it pass
under NAFTA with no duties. The plywood came from Israel.
Dave
At 04:20 PM 11/15/2007, you wrote:
>Regarding the use of plywood for the leading edge, there's a really good
>deal available from Boulter Plywood.
>They have 1.5mm Okoume Marine Plywood in 4' x 8' sheets on special for
>ONLY $23 per sheet! One sheet would do a set of wings.
>Here's a web link:
>
><http://www.boulterplywood.com/>http://www.boulterplywood.com/
>
>Go to the tab at the top of the page for "Specials". It says that it's an
>October Special, but they've got a couple thousand sheets, so they should
>have some left.
>
>Unfortunately for me, I'm up in Canada, and the cost to ship across the
>border is ridiculous. I enquired to the folks at Boulter, for the cost to
>ship two or three sheets up to me (I even said it would be okay to rip
>them into 12" strips, to keep the costs down), and they came back with a
>cost of $150 just for the shipping. It would be a lot cheaper to have it
>sent to Alaska. Too bad I don't have an address that ends in USA.
>
>
>Bill C.
>
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Thanks for the reply. Just want to make sure of the quality, and the presence of
T-88. Will await your reply and have a good evening.
Richard
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146338#146338
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| Subject: | Leading airfoil shape-- scalloped back edge |
We made little scalloped gussets, beveled to attach to the leading edge plywood
(also beveled). Don't know why I did this, maybe I was boring or want to add
some weight : )
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | need technical advice from the pros |
We left the plywood sides off until we installed all the controls, throttle levers,
pedals etc. We even installed the landing gear and varnished the interior
before gluing the sides (also varnished the plywood sides). I konw it is not
necessary but this way you can work very comfortably.
Some photos attached
Saludos
Santiago
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| Subject: | Aeronca threaded strut forks |
I have two strut forks. I am told they are from an Aeronca. They are
100% corrosion free. Have been walnut shell blasted and very clean.
I'm told these go for big bucks. Looking to get $60 each.
DJ
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