Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/20/07


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     0. 12:10 AM - [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 03:15 PM - Re: Engine pre-heat Do Not Archive (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG)
     2. 04:32 PM - Re: Ribs (Richard)
     3. 04:34 PM - Get the Lead Out - NOT !! (Rcaprd@aol.com)
     4. 05:55 PM - Re: Engine pre-heat Do Not Archive (Tim Willis)
     5. 08:13 PM - Re: elevator control question (dwilson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:10:48 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
    Dear Listers, Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience over the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of file formats including pictures and PDFs. Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ). I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 03:15:47 PM PST US
    From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
    Subject: Re: Engine pre-heat Do Not Archive
    In the Far northern range of Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandle. We draped a blanket over the engine cowling and inlets. Then we simply put an old fashoned incandescant Drop light under the center of the engine. The heat from the bulb would keep things somewhat warm if left overnight. I also used the little ceramic heaters the same way as others they worked OK. Merlin Kempf, an old airline mechanic from Alaska, told me stories of working on planes up north with special tents built around the engine with a Hermann Nelson heater. He said it was so cold you would work 10-15 Minutes and go warm up for an hour. Merlin Passed on a couple of years ago. He was a great guy. His house was full of Alaskan game trophies (Bears on the floor and such) He was one of the maintenance chiefs for the Flying Tigers in China. He gave a great oral history to the museum used to work for. He joined the army in 1932 and went into aircraft "Engineering" (mechanics) He talked about how they dropped one of the P40s on the dock as they were loading them on the ship and he made them load it any way. He knew that they were given zero spare parts. He told me He saw that damaged plane as his first stock of spare parts. Merlin went in first on the Burma trail and helped set up the runways and bases before the planes and pilots arrived. He said the first pilot they lost crashed doing a roll over the runway and simply flew into the ground. He said that when they gave the planes over to the Army Air Corps, the chief Mechanic wanted to see the records that showed how many hours each plane/engine had on it and when parts had been replaced. Merlin laughed and said that they did not keep any records because they had no spare parts and only replaced things when they broke. The Mechanic said he could not take the planes without times for his records. So he and Merlin walked around the field and merlin gave him the best guess on how many hours each plane or engine had on it and what he could rememeber fixing on each one. He came back to Oklahoma and started working on C47s in Tulsa at the Factory. He still loved small planes and in his last year came to the airport several times and admired everyone's airplanes. One of the most pleasant men I have ever met. I still have a note he sent me on letterhead that says "From the Desk of a Flying Tiger." Sorry, this is way off track for a Piet list (tho Merlin liked them too.) Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine pre-heat > Now that it's getting down to freezing at night I'm wondering what > the rest of you are using for an engine pre-heater? My airport > manager has a fit if I use my gas fed pre-heater so I'm starting > to look around for a simple electric one. Something I could leave > on over night so I can make my early morning flights that I live for. > Cold weather flying rules! > Gene > N502R


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    Time: 04:32:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ribs
    From: "Richard" <watash101@cox.net>
    Robert: anything on the pics yet? give me a call when you get a chance, we will work something out. Just want to make sure T88 and Spruce are a part of the package, and workmanship as well. Have a safe Holiday! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147590#147590


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    Time: 04:34:19 PM PST US
    From: Rcaprd@aol.com
    Subject: Get the Lead Out - NOT !!
    Friends of the Earth want to remove the relatively small amounts of lead from all Av gas: http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1000-full.html#196596 EPA's Notice of Petition For Rulemaking http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2 007/E7-22456.htm) public comment by March 17, 2008 **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)


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    Time: 05:55:24 PM PST US
    From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine pre-heat Do Not Archive
    Steve, Thanks for the great story. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: "Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG" <steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> >Sent: Nov 20, 2007 5:08 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Engine pre-heat Do Not Archive > > >In the Far northern range of Oklahoma and the Texas Panhandle. We draped a blanket over the engine cowling and inlets. Then we simply put an old fashoned incandescant Drop light under the center of the engine. The heat from the bulb would keep things somewhat warm if left overnight. I also used the little ceramic heaters the same way as others they worked OK. Merlin Kempf, an old airline mechanic from Alaska, told me stories of working on planes up north with special tents built around the engine with a Hermann Nelson heater. He said it was so cold you would work 10-15 Minutes and go warm up for an hour. > >Merlin Passed on a couple of years ago. He was a great guy. His house was full of Alaskan game trophies (Bears on the floor and such) > >He was one of the maintenance chiefs for the Flying Tigers in China. He gave a great oral history to the museum used to work for. He joined the army in 1932 and went into aircraft "Engineering" (mechanics) > >He talked about how they dropped one of the P40s on the dock as they were loading them on the ship and he made them load it any way. He knew that they were given zero spare parts. He told me He saw that damaged plane as his first stock of spare parts. Merlin went in first on the Burma trail and helped set up the runways and bases before the planes and pilots arrived. He said the first pilot they lost crashed doing a roll over the runway and simply flew into the ground. > >He said that when they gave the planes over to the Army Air Corps, the chief Mechanic wanted to see the records that showed how many hours each plane/engine had on it and when parts had been replaced. Merlin laughed and said that they did not keep any records because they had no spare parts and only replaced things when they broke. The Mechanic said he could not take the planes without times for his records. So he and Merlin walked around the field and merlin gave him the best guess on how many hours each plane or engine had on it and what he could rememeber fixing on each one. > >He came back to Oklahoma and started working on C47s in Tulsa at the Factory. > >He still loved small planes and in his last year came to the airport several times and admired everyone's airplanes. > >One of the most pleasant men I have ever met. I still have a note he sent me on letterhead that says "From the Desk of a Flying Tiger." > >Sorry, this is way off track for a Piet list (tho Merlin liked them too.) > >Do Not Archive > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Gene & Tammy <zharvey@bellsouth.net> >Date: Saturday, November 17, 2007 7:37 >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Engine pre-heat >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > >> Now that it's getting down to freezing at night I'm wondering what >> the rest of you are using for an engine pre-heater? My airport >> manager has a fit if I use my gas fed pre-heater so I'm starting >> to look around for a simple electric one. Something I could leave >> on over night so I can make my early morning flights that I live for. >> Cold weather flying rules! >> Gene >> N502R > >


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    Time: 08:13:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: elevator control question
    From: "dwilson" <marwilson@charter.net>
    I asked this very question of Vi Kapler. Vi stated that the elevator deflection should be at least 20 degrees down and 20 degrees up. He also stated that the elevator deflection should never exceed 30 degrees. I consider Vi one of the most knowledgeable experts with regard to the Aircamper. Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147635#147635




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