---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/21/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:59 AM - Re: Get the Lead Out - NOT !! () 2. 05:00 AM - Re: Re: elevator control question (Tim Willis) 3. 10:36 AM - elevator control question (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 04:16 PM - Re: elevator control question (dwilson) 5. 05:24 PM - FW: View The Video (Brian Kraut) 6. 08:44 PM - Fought City Hall And Won (Ryan Michals) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:10 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Get the Lead Out - NOT !! From: This is because the general public has no idea what lead does or how it works or why we need it. ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rcaprd@aol.com Sent: November 20, 2007 7:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Get the Lead Out - NOT !! Friends of the Earth want to remove the relatively small amounts of lead from all Av gas: http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1000-full.html#196596 EPA's Notice of Petition For Rulemaking http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20071800/edocket.access.gpo .gov/2007/E7-22456.htm) public comment by March 17, 2008 ________________________________ Check out AOL Money & Finance's list of the hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:16 AM PST US From: Tim Willis Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question Dan, Thanks. I will begin tinkering with adjustments for that full range in mind. BTW, Corky put Vi Kapler hinges on this plane. Tim in central TX do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: dwilson >Sent: Nov 20, 2007 10:12 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question > > >I asked this very question of Vi Kapler. Vi stated that the elevator deflection should be at least 20 degrees down and 20 degrees up. He also stated that the elevator deflection should never exceed 30 degrees. I consider Vi one of the most knowledgeable experts with regard to the Aircamper. > >Dan > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147635#147635 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:36 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: elevator control question Speaking hypothetically (based on geometry of the elevator horns and locati on relative to the pivot point), with 20 degrees of travel up and down the bellcrank connection point will travel 2-1/2" from stop to stop. I measure d it on 41CC and I have closer to 3" total travel of the bellcrank. Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://w ww.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:38 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question From: "dwilson" During the Broadhead Pietenpol Fly-in last summer Ken Perkins presented a fantastic demonstration on his method for constructing elevator, aileron, and rudder horns. He has also devised a method for removing the slack in the elevator cables. One change that I made to my elevator horns was to lengthen the horn so that both cable connection points are in-line and of equal distance from the pivot point of the elevator hinge. Many Piet builders have also modified the location of the elevator bellcrank pivot. Dan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147797#147797 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:31 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: View The Video I normally don't pass on emails like this, but this is just about the wildest thing I have ever seen in aviation. Hmmm, where is the closest mountain? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com Subject: View The Video http://www.mindensoaringclub.com/int2/ Open the forum and view the video And they say we are crazy for flying airplanes with no engines/prop Jim & Karen If flying was the language of man... Soaring would be the poetry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:04 PM PST US From: Ryan Michals Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fought City Hall And Won Brian, Congratulations on your success fighting city hall! I saw the small article in Sport Pilot magazine. Mark one for the good guys! Ryan --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. 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