---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/22/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:23 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle) 1. 04:15 AM - Re: FW: View The Video () 2. 08:29 AM - Re: Fought City Hall And Won (Brian Kraut) 3. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: elevator control question () 4. 11:00 AM - Re: elevator control question () 5. 05:08 PM - Lengthened control tube (Ryan Michals) 6. 07:55 PM - Re: Re: Ribs (Rcaprd@aol.com) 7. 08:11 PM - Re: Re: Ribs (Rcaprd@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:26 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: What Are You Thankful For...? Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:36 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: FW: View The Video From: Absolutely wild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thanks for this! ________________________________ From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Kraut Sent: November 21, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: View The Video I normally don't pass on emails like this, but this is just about the wildest thing I have ever seen in aviation. Hmmm, where is the closest mountain? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com Subject: View The Video http://www.mindensoaringclub.com/int2/ Open the forum and view the video And they say we are crazy for flying airplanes with no engines/prop Jim & Karen If flying was the language of man... Soaring would be the poetry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:23 AM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Fought City Hall And Won Thanks. Now our wonderfull city council is trying to block a runway extension. See www.safercraig.com. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ryan Michals Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:34 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fought City Hall And Won Brian, Congratulations on your success fighting city hall! I saw the small article in Sport Pilot magazine. Mark one for the good guys! Ryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:39 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question Dan, How did Mr. Perkins build the control horns? And how does he get rid of the slack in the cables? Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwilson" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question > > During the Broadhead Pietenpol Fly-in last summer Ken Perkins presented a > fantastic demonstration on his method for constructing elevator, aileron, > and rudder horns. He has also devised a method for removing the slack in > the elevator cables. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:40 AM PST US From: Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question >From my notes: Alan James in the UK Recommends Elevators: 20 degrees up/15-20 degrees down. I've run out of elevator before now in a machine with something less than 20 degrees up and found myself almost bending the stick trying to get a decent break during a stall test. Don't be tempted to add any more - 20 degrees up is perfect. Rudder: I have fitted stops to retain 1" clearance between rudder and elevator at full deflection on G-BUCO. This works fine for me. Ailerons: You don't want the down-going aileron spar to clout against the wing. I've fitted blocks to the fuselage floor under the ends of the aileron bellcrank to act as stops. They allow a gap of about (?)" between the wing and the bottom edge of a closed aileron. And whilst we are talking ailerons, tape over the gap on the upper surface during covering - it lightens the stick load considerably. AJ. Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Willis" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:57 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question > > > Dan, > Thanks. I will begin tinkering with adjustments for that full range in > mind. BTW, Corky put Vi Kapler hinges on this plane. > Tim in central TX > do not archive > > -----Original Message----- >>From: dwilson >>Sent: Nov 20, 2007 10:12 PM >>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: elevator control question >> >> >>I asked this very question of Vi Kapler. Vi stated that the elevator >>deflection should be at least 20 degrees down and 20 degrees up. He also >>stated that the elevator deflection should never exceed 30 degrees. I >>consider Vi one of the most knowledgeable experts with regard to the >>Aircamper. >> >>Dan >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147635#147635 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:03 PM PST US From: Ryan Michals Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lengthened control tube Quick question to the list, Does the control torque tube get lengthened in the longer fuselage? I couldn't find this mentioned in the archives. Have a happy Thanksgiving, Ryan --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:30 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ribs In a message dated 11/20/2007 6:34:15 PM Central Standard Time, watash101@cox.net writes: Robert: anything on the pics yet? give me a call when you get a chance, we will work something out. Just want to make sure T88 and Spruce are a part of the package, and workmanship as well. Have a safe Holiday! I think you sent this to me in error. I hope you get the ribs you want. Chuck G. NX770CG **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:49 PM PST US From: Rcaprd@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ribs In a message dated 11/22/2007 9:56:39 PM Central Standard Time, Rcaprd@aol.com writes: In a message dated 11/20/2007 6:34:15 PM Central Standard Time, watash101@cox.net writes: Robert: anything on the pics yet? give me a call when you get a chance, we will work something out. Just want to make sure T88 and Spruce are a part of the package, and workmanship as well. Have a safe Holiday! I think you sent this to me in error. I hope you get the ribs you want. Chuck G. NX770CG Oops...I thought he sent that to my e-mail. My bad. Chuck G. NX770CG **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. 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