Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/24/07


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     0. 12:33 AM - Comments (Matt Dralle)
     1. 06:07 AM - Wood glues: (lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan))
     2. 10:35 AM - Re: Wood glues: (Gordon Bowen)
     3. 11:10 AM - Re: Wood glues: (Rick Holland)
     4. 11:31 AM - Dave Stephens Piet (Skip Gadd)
     5. 12:28 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet ()
     6. 01:42 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Gordon Bowen)
     7. 02:07 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Skip Gadd)
     8. 02:28 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Skip Gadd)
     9. 03:45 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Gordon Bowen)
    10. 03:51 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet ()
    11. 06:48 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Skip Gadd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:33:13 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Comments
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    Time: 06:07:54 AM PST US
    From: lshutks@webtv.net (Leon Stefan)
    Subject: Wood glues:
    A comment on wood glue that's probably not even related to the topic. I'm using Aeropoxy because a supplier sells it locally. I stopped at the Aeropoxy booth at Oshkosh (I never excepted the word "Airventure" too corporate for a grass roots org.) a couple of years ago and visited with them. Told them what I was doing, and using, and they wondered why I was using that glue instead of another glue they make that is formulated with fillers that work better when you may have gaps such as you may have in wood. ( I never knew about it ) So speaking of filling agents, there is one co. that is thinking especially for wood. Leon Stefan In Ks. Looking out the window at the first snowfall of the winter - Mannn I hate winter! Bring on Global warming!


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    Time: 10:35:26 AM PST US
    From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Wood glues:
    Leon, Aeropoxy by PTMW co. is one of the epoxy systems that Rutan Aircraft approved for use in his composite designs in approx. 1992. It's been tested for the long haul and resist to aviation fuels. It's good stuff for composites. For your wood laminations, you probably find it a little runny. It's designed to wet out fiberglass laminates. It's a good system and you'll probably see a lot of benefit in using a pinch of flox or Cab-o-sil to thicken it up so it won't run out of vertical glue-ups. In any case, the glue's gonna be stronger than the wood. Here in Alaska's banana belt, weather's been just peachy, if you like dark and rain. Hope Kansas U beats Missu, like to see WVU and Kansas in BCS champs bowl. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Stefan" <lshutks@webtv.net> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood glues: > > A comment on wood glue that's probably not even related to the topic. > I'm using Aeropoxy because a supplier sells it locally. I stopped at the > Aeropoxy booth at Oshkosh (I never excepted the word "Airventure" too > corporate for a grass roots org.) a couple of years ago and visited with > them. Told them what I was doing, and using, and they wondered why I was > using that glue instead of another glue they make that is formulated > with fillers that work better when you may have gaps such as you may > have in wood. ( I never knew about it ) So speaking of filling agents, > there is one co. that is thinking especially for wood. Leon Stefan In > Ks. Looking out the window at the first snowfall of the winter - Mannn I > hate winter! Bring on Global warming! > > >


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    Time: 11:10:23 AM PST US
    From: "Rick Holland" <at7000ft@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Wood glues:
    Hey Leon Yes its getting colder in KS and CO but the Kansas-Missouri game tonight is going to be hot. I was born in Kansas City MO so I guess I will have to root for MO. Rick do not archive Leon Stefan In > Ks. Looking out the window at the first snowfall of the winter - Mannn I > hate winter! Bring on Global warming! > > -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado


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    Time: 11:31:20 AM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Dave Stephens Piet
    Here is the picture of Dave's Piet I promised to send. He has not flown it yet. He is a snowbird, so that may not be till spring. Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.


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    Time: 12:28:04 PM PST US
    From: <bike.mike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Tell us about those wheels. Cast aluminum "snowflakes"? ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Gadd To: pietenpol-list Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Here is the picture of Dave's Piet I promised to send. He has not flown it yet. He is a snowbird, so that may not be till spring. Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.


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    Time: 01:42:48 PM PST US
    From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Skip, Where's the field this pic was taken? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Gadd To: pietenpol-list Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Here is the picture of Dave's Piet I promised to send. He has not flown it yet. He is a snowbird, so that may not be till spring. Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.


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    Time: 02:07:24 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Mike, They are Seib or Steib, BMW sidecar wheels, an aluminum alloy. I'm not familiar with "snowflake", must be a technical bike term ;o) Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 11/24/2007 3:31:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Tell us about those wheels. Cast aluminum "snowflakes"?


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    Time: 02:28:40 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Gordon, The pic was taken by Dave Oct 31 2007, the day the FAA waived its magic wand over his Piet, here at Hales Landing, we are 15 miles SE of the Ohio river in NW West Virginia. http://www.geocities.com/haleslanding/ The pic at the site is over the 7 end looking 250 degrees. The pic of Daves Piet was taken near the 7 end looking 270 degrees. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen Sent: 11/24/2007 4:46:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Skip, Where's the field this pic was taken? Gordon


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    Time: 03:45:30 PM PST US
    From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen@ptialaska.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Skip, Thought those hills in pic background looked familiar, I was born and raised, (til the Army got me '65) in Paden City WV. One of my Piete builder buddies comes back to WV each year for 4 July, gonna e-forward your pic and notes on Hales Landing to him, maybe he'll have chance to stop by and admire your work next summer. He's currently living in FL, he and another homebuilder originally from Wheeling wanted to team fly my Piete and an Aeronca up to WV last summer for 4th, maybe next summer. Gooooo Eeerrs! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Gadd To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Gordon, The pic was taken by Dave Oct 31 2007, the day the FAA waived its magic wand over his Piet, here at Hales Landing, we are 15 miles SE of the Ohio river in NW West Virginia. http://www.geocities.com/haleslanding/ The pic at the site is over the 7 end looking 250 degrees. The pic of Daves Piet was taken near the 7 end looking 270 degrees. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: 11/24/2007 4:46:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Skip, Where's the field this pic was taken? Gordon


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    Time: 03:51:25 PM PST US
    From: <bike.mike@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Skip, You're right, snowflake is a "technical" term for the cast aluminum wheel that BMW used on its '70s and '80s air-cooled motorcycles. I guess it reminded someone of a snowflake. It does make a really interesting Piet wheel and Dave's, being sidecar wheels, defeat the argument that motorcycle wheels can't take side loads. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Skip Gadd To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Mike, They are Seib or Steib, BMW sidecar wheels, an aluminum alloy. I'm not familiar with "snowflake", must be a technical bike term ;o) Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: 11/24/2007 3:31:31 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Tell us about those wheels. Cast aluminum "snowflakes"?


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    Time: 06:48:21 PM PST US
    From: "Skip Gadd" <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
    Gordon, The pic was taken by Dave Oct 31 2007, the day the FAA waived its magic wand over his Piet, here at Hales Landing, we are 15 miles SE of the Ohio river in NW West Virginia. http://www.geocities.com/haleslanding/ The pic at the site is over the 7 end looking 250 degrees. The pic of Daves Piet was taken near the 7 end looking 270 degrees. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bowen Sent: 11/24/2007 4:46:11 PM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dave Stephens Piet Skip, Where's the field this pic was taken? Gordon Gordon, sent the above a couple hours ago and it hasn't shown up yet, I'll try again. Skip skipgadd@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.




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