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1. 04:45 AM - Re: final rigging (Gene & Tammy)
2. 05:35 AM - Re: T88 Mixing Gun (pietn38b@aol.com)
3. 05:51 AM - (no subject) (RBush96589@aol.com)
4. 09:27 AM - subscription renewal (Donald Lane)
5. 10:41 AM - Assembly milestone (HelsperSew@aol.com)
6. 11:08 AM - Re: Assembly milestone (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
7. 11:09 AM - Re: Assembly milestone (Rick Holland)
8. 11:31 AM - Re: Assembly milestone (Glenn Thomas)
9. 12:31 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (Ryan Michals)
10. 12:37 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. 01:03 PM - Re: Digital Scale (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
12. 01:50 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (dwilson)
13. 02:23 PM - Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows) (Steve Ruse)
14. 03:48 PM - Re: Digital Scale (Glenn Thomas)
15. 04:34 PM - Project for sale (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
16. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Digital Scale (HelsperSew@aol.com)
17. 05:04 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (Jack T. Textor)
18. 06:39 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (HelsperSew@aol.com)
19. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Assembly milestone (HelsperSew@aol.com)
20. 06:45 PM - Re: Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows) (walt evans)
21. 06:56 PM - Re: Re: Digital Scale (Rick Holland)
22. 07:31 PM - Re: Assembly milestone (Rick Holland)
23. 07:52 PM - Flight Instructors-a listing (Rob Stapleton, Jr.)
24. 07:56 PM - Re: Dave Stephens Piet (Skip Gadd)
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| Subject: | Re: final rigging |
Robert, What an exciting time for you. Hope everything goes well.
Where are you going to keep her? I'd love to fly down and meet the both
of you. As far as Brodhead, the more the better. Right now I'm in the
dog house. Last night I told my wife I was flying to Brodhead right
after I returned from my motorcycle trip. She didn't seem too pleased
with the idea. Guess I'll know for sure when she starts talking to me
again.
Gene
N502R
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From: RBush96589@aol.com
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: final rigging
thanks for the input on my rigging question everyone. I am going to
try to get it together this weekend, weather permitting.Jack and Gene if
everything goes OK in the next couple of weekends,and I can get
comfortable flying this thing by the time you get ready to make the trip
to Brodhead I would be interested in making the trip with you. I live
between Jackson and Lexington.
Robert Bush
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| Subject: | Re: T88 Mixing Gun |
Chuck
You must have watched the movie "High Road to China" :):):) Jim
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Gene,
I rent a 2300 ft grass strip with a t-hanger from a neighbor of mine
about a half mile from my house.If you know where the law rd.exit 93 is off of
i-40 it is about 4 miles north of there.
ROBERT BUSH
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| Subject: | subscription renewal |
Dear Mr. Dralle
I have been getting the pietenpol-list double, to both addresses
(dslane@capital.net and dslane@logical.net), I recently sent a
contrubutuion for the listing under capital.net and would liket to
desubscribe my listing under logical.net. You are doing a great job
operating this list and I know are greatly appreciated by the
subscribers.
Thank You
Donald Lane
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| Subject: | Assembly milestone |
Guys,
I have reached a milestone today. I was finally able to bring down my
one-piece wing from the wall and assemble it to the fuselage. Boy does it feel
good. Here are some pics to spur on the others behind me.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Looks great Dan! Maybe my next trip to Rockford I can see her in person.
Naturally that's if you're willing to show her off over a brew!
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Beautiful work Dan, just one suggestion, you may consider getting a new prop
before the first flight.
RIck
On Dec 1, 2007 10:40 AM, <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
> Guys,
> I have reached a milestone today. I was finally able to bring down my
> one-piece wing from the wall and assemble it to the fuselage. Boy does it
> feel good. Here are some pics to spur on the others behind me.
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Nice! Too bad it's getting covered.
I consider myself officially spurred. Just got a jointer and will hopefully
get the garage straightened up so I can start in on my tail feathers.
Keep it going!
Glenn
On 12/1/07, HelsperSew@aol.com <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Guys,
> I have reached a milestone today. I was finally able to bring down my
> one-piece wing from the wall and assemble it to the fuselage. Boy does it
> feel good. Here are some pics to spur on the others behind me.
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Very nice. Love the prop!!
Ryan
HelsperSew@aol.com wrote:
Guys,
I have reached a milestone today. I was finally able to bring down my one-piece
wing from the wall and assemble it to the fuselage. Boy does it feel good.
Here are some pics to spur on the others behind me.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Now that is one beautiful piece of craftmanship. You should be very proud. I
am just to see the picture.
Corky
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| Subject: | Re: Digital Scale |
Just remember as mentioned a earlier post...Viscosity/weight is different between
the two. I would purchase two new containers and weight each one before opening
them. Record the difference. That difference should be your starting point
between each half. Then you'll have better accuracy in amounts of material to
mix....make sense?...
Ken H.
Ryan Michals <aircamperace@yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks for the ideas. What is the largest amount (in grams or ounces) you have
weighed up at one time? Would a 200g (.457 oz) capacity be large enough?
There are a few reasons for weighing;
1.Consistency. I've noticed varying cure times. When it's still a little "tacky"
the next morning, It makes me worry a little, although it always fully hardens
up.
2. Accuracy. I've been using small plastic cups, it's tough to scrape every last
bit out of the individual cups.
3. Ease and efficiency. If you are right in the middle of gluing everything,
it's starting to set up and you run out and need that just a little more.
Gordon Bowen <gbowen@ptialaska.net> wrote:
It's a good rule of thumb on ratios of resin to curative, for most commerically
available epoxies used for laminations. The density diff between the
two makes the gram ratio 100 parts resin and about 88 parts hardener, or 100:100
based on volume. Most epoxy systems you can buy off the shelf are somewhat
forgiving on the ratios, so 83-93 parts hardener to 100 parts resin by weight
will work out just fine.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Kraut
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Digital Scale
I believe that the ratio by weight is 83 to 100. Going by memory here.
They don't say what the ratio by weight is anywhere on the bottle or isntructions, but they do have a data sheet on their web site that has it. Go to http://www.systemthree.com/p_t_88.asp and click on the technical data sheet. I am running out the door now or would look it up and post it.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Glenn Thomas
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Digital Scale
I bought one here...
http://www.oldwillknottscales.com/
I used it when making ribs to measure out one part of the T-88. One of the parts
has a higher mass per volume so you have to measure the volume of the other
part visually. It was good for getting the right amount to start with. T-88
instructions say to mix 2 parts of equal volume. When I was ready to mix by
equal mass I could see that the volumes where different so the scale didn't
really end up giving me the precision I was hoping for. I think you can get pretty
good precision using identical translucent plastic containers and a block
of wood or straight edge behind them as a reference point.
I documented my discovery here...
http://www.flyingwood.com/index.asp?page=9&filter=0
On 11/30/07, Ryan Michals <aircamperace@yahoo.com> wrote: Can anyone recommend
an inexpensive scale for weighing epoxy etc..?
Thanks'
Ryan
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Dan, Is it possible for you to post a couple of close-ups of your jury-strut fittings
? Workmanship looks great! I like the color of your metal fittings and
struts.
Dan
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| Subject: | Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows) |
I want to replace the J-3 cub style "eyebrows" on my GN-1 Aircamper. I
can't seem to stop all the cracks in these things.
I would like to build essentially a square baffle, instead of the rounded
design like the J3 baffle. What are the design considerations for these
baffles? The only criteria I believe I've ever seen is that you are to have
a certain pressure differential between the top and bottom of the cylinders
to maintain adequate cooling. Obviously that would be difficult to
calculate accurately.
My plan is to essentially match the frontal area of the J3 baffle, and have
a similar downard taper towards the rear of the baffle. My guess is that
this is to increase pressure above the cylinders, to maintain adequate
cooling flow accross the cylinders.
What am I missing? Who else here has created their own baffles, and what am
I not thinking about? I fly this plane a LOT, so these have to cool the
engine properly.
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Digital Scale |
I use the same cups as Clif except I don't buy them. I guess for 4.20 maybe I
should. McDonalds puts them out for ketchup. The guilt dissipates quickly.
After I rob McDonalds I go to Starbucks and get some wooden T-88 applicators,
I mean, stirrers. So far no high speed chases have ensued.
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N?????
http://www.flyingwood.com
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| Subject: | Project for sale |
Members,
In barnstromers under the search engine you can find in the project page a nice
Pietenpol for sale at a very goods price.....if interested.
Food for thought on this wintery blizzardy day!
Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP
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| Subject: | Re: Digital Scale |
Glenn,
Now that's what I call scrounging!
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Assembly milestone |
Dan,
Beautiful work, thanks for sharing the pictures!
Jack Textor
www.textors.com <http://www.textors.com/>
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Rick,
Thank you. Yea, I was thinking there might be something wrong with that prop
too. This just confirms it.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Dan,
Thank you for the encouragement. I really really appreciate it. Here are a
few detail photos.
Dan Helsper
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| Subject: | Re: Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows) |
Steve,
I made the round ones.
But for the advise of my Mentor,,,made them with dead soft aluminum. Rolled
welding wire into the edges. And no cracks yet.
walt evans
NX140DL
"No one ever learned anything by talking"
Ben Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Continental A-75 Cooling Baffles (eyebrows)
> <steve@wotelectronics.com>
>
> I want to replace the J-3 cub style "eyebrows" on my GN-1 Aircamper. I
> can't seem to stop all the cracks in these things.
>
> I would like to build essentially a square baffle, instead of the rounded
> design like the J3 baffle. What are the design considerations for these
> baffles? The only criteria I believe I've ever seen is that you are to
> have a certain pressure differential between the top and bottom of the
> cylinders to maintain adequate cooling. Obviously that would be difficult
> to calculate accurately.
>
> My plan is to essentially match the frontal area of the J3 baffle, and
> have a similar downard taper towards the rear of the baffle. My guess is
> that this is to increase pressure above the cylinders, to maintain
> adequate cooling flow accross the cylinders.
>
> What am I missing? Who else here has created their own baffles, and what
> am I not thinking about? I fly this plane a LOT, so these have to cool
> the engine properly.
>
> Steve Ruse
> Norman, OK
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Digital Scale |
Don't feel guilty Glenn, when I was building my mock cockpit and needed some
more wood I would wait till it got dark (so the neighbors wouldn't start
gossiping) and hit some of the construction dumpsters in the area.
Rick
On Dec 1, 2007 3:48 PM, Glenn Thomas <glennthomas@flyingwood.com> wrote:
> glennthomas@flyingwood.com>
>
> I use the same cups as Clif except I don't buy them. I guess for 4.20maybe I
should. McDonalds puts them out for ketchup. The guilt dissipates
> quickly. After I rob McDonalds I go to Starbucks and get some wooden T-88
> applicators, I mean, stirrers. So far no high speed chases have ensued.
>
> --------
> Glenn Thomas
> N?????
> http://www.flyingwood.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149929#149929
>
>
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ObjectAge Ltd.
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| Subject: | Re: Assembly milestone |
Yea, sometimes it takes a second set of eyes to flush out some of those
subtle problems.
Rick
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On Dec 1, 2007 3:51 PM, <HelsperSew@aol.com> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thank you. Yea, I was thinking there might be something wrong with that
> prop too. This just confirms it.
> Dan Helsper
> Poplar Grove, IL.
>
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| Subject: | Flight Instructors-a listing |
I recently saw a posting (last week) looking for CFIs for tailwheel
instructions try this link it may help.
http://www.pilot-flight-instruction.com/
Rob Stapleton,
Pietenpol/Corvair Builder
Anchorage, Alaska
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| Subject: | Re: Dave Stephens Piet |
_Gordon,
I never did receive the below message, just got it out of archive.
Paden City is just up the river from us.
Have your friend stop by.
From: "Gordon Bowen" <gbowen(at)ptialaska.net>
Subject: Re: Dave Stephens Piet
Skip,
Thought those hills in pic background looked familiar, I was born and
raised, (til the Army got me '65) in Paden City WV. One of my Piete
builder buddies comes back to WV each year for 4 July, gonna e-forward
your pic and notes on Hales Landing to him, maybe he'll have chance to
stop by and admire your work next summer. He's currently living in FL,
he and another homebuilder originally from Wheeling wanted to team fly
my Piete and an Aeronca up to WV last summer for 4th, maybe next summer.
Gooooo Eeerrs!
Gordon
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