---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/07/07: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:17 AM - Sources for wing struts (Woodflier@aol.com) 2. 12:14 PM - Rudder bar flattening (Ryan Michals) 3. 12:23 PM - Re: Sources for wing struts (Gordon Bowen) 4. 01:13 PM - Re: Sources for wing struts (Brian Kraut) 5. 04:11 PM - Re: Sources for wing struts (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP) 6. 10:44 PM - Re: Sources for wing struts () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:44 AM PST US From: Woodflier@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Listers, I've haunted eBay, contacted Wentworth Aircraft in Illinois, and several aviation salvage yards and local FBOs looking for suitable used wing struts, particularly J-series Pipers or possible Taylorcraft. I understand that failed struts with the problem area at the bottom or inboard area can still be used for a Piet because the Piet uses shorter struts and the bad area can simply be cut off. Does anyone have, or does anyone know where I might find four struts? I could buy the streamline tube from AS&S but that looks to be about $800 at current steel prices. Matt Paxton **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:57 PM PST US From: Ryan Michals Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder bar flattening Thanks for the tip Clif! I found your description of how to align the ends of the rudder bar in the archives. It worked great. "Clamp a stick to the flattened face and eyeball it vertical to the vice jaws and hold with just a little pressure. hold a stick or ruler to one vice jaw face and sight the two sticks. Repeat until both line up. Then squish away. I have two 3/4" X 3/4" sticks 2' long, one white, one black hanging on my tool wall. They are known by the ancients as winding sticks. http://www.robcosman.ca/RC_Jigs.htm http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/browseproducts/Winding-Sticks.html Clif --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:38 PM PST US From: "Gordon Bowen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Wood flier, The Piper Colt and TriPacer had the same lower end strut rusting problem. Wasn't aware you could cut-off and still be usable, be very careful with that idea. The AD that came out in the 70's regarding this these struts should be cked-out before you buy. I had to replace the struts on my ole Colt many many years ago and saw the amount of rust damage they had on the lower end. When you can push a fabric testing punch thru 4130 steel (the original AD's testing method), you gotta worry about the entire strutt. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Woodflier@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Listers, I've haunted eBay, contacted Wentworth Aircraft in Illinois, and several aviation salvage yards and local FBOs looking for suitable used wing struts, particularly J-series Pipers or possible Taylorcraft. I understand that failed struts with the problem area at the bottom or inboard area can still be used for a Piet because the Piet uses shorter struts and the bad area can simply be cut off. Does anyone have, or does anyone know where I might find four struts? I could buy the streamline tube from AS&S but that looks to be about $800 at current steel prices. Matt Paxton ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- money wasters of 2007. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:13:54 PM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts The rust is generally on the lower end because that is where the water gathers. If you are cutting the bottom off to shorten it you will get a good view of the inside. In reality though, there are lots of the non-sealed struts out there cheap that don't have any rust and I would wait for some good ones before I used rusty ones. Most people get tired of having to pay for the repetative AD and just buy new sealed struts when the old ones are still good. Post a message on www.shortwing.org/forum or one of the Cub forums and you should find some. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gordon Bowen Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:23 PM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Wood flier, The Piper Colt and TriPacer had the same lower end strut rusting problem. Wasn't aware you could cut-off and still be usable, be very careful with that idea. The AD that came out in the 70's regarding this these struts should be cked-out before you buy. I had to replace the struts on my ole Colt many many years ago and saw the amount of rust damage they had on the lower end. When you can push a fabric testing punch thru 4130 steel (the original AD's testing method), you gotta worry about the entire strutt. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: Woodflier@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Listers, I've haunted eBay, contacted Wentworth Aircraft in Illinois, and several aviation salvage yards and local FBOs looking for suitable used wing struts, particularly J-series Pipers or possible Taylorcraft. I understand that failed struts with the problem area at the bottom or inboard area can still be used for a Piet because the Piet uses shorter struts and the bad area can simply be cut off. Does anyone have, or does anyone know where I might find four struts? I could buy the streamline tube from AS&S but that looks to be about $800 at current steel prices. Matt Paxton ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- title=http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000 000001 href="http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000300000000 01" target=_blank>hottest products and top money wasters of 2007. href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:51 PM PST US From: "KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Have you tred the classified ad sections of the Taylorcraft and Aeronca newsletters? I'll check my membership news letters and see if any exisit. Ken H Woodflier@aol.com wrote: Listers, I've haunted eBay, contacted Wentworth Aircraft in Illinois, and several aviation salvage yards and local FBOs looking for suitable used wing struts, particularly J-series Pipers or possible Taylorcraft. I understand that failed struts with the problem area at the bottom or inboard area can still be used for a Piet because the Piet uses shorter struts and the bad area can simply be cut off. Does anyone have, or does anyone know where I might find four struts? I could buy the streamline tube from AS&S but that looks to be about $800 at current steel prices. Matt Paxton --------------------------------- Kenneth M. Heide, BA, CPO, FAAOP --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:38 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Matt, Haven seen your name for a while. It's good to see your still out there building. Chris Tracy Sacramento, Ca Website at http://www.WestCoastPiet.com Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Woodflier@aol.com To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sources for wing struts Listers, I've haunted eBay, contacted Wentworth Aircraft in Illinois, and several aviation salvage yards and local FBOs looking for suitable used wing struts, particularly J-series Pipers or possible Taylorcraft. I understand that failed struts with the problem area at the bottom or inboard area can still be used for a Piet because the Piet uses shorter struts and the bad area can simply be cut off. Does anyone have, or does anyone know where I might find four struts? I could buy the streamline tube from AS&S but that looks to be about $800 at current steel prices. 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