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1. 03:22 AM - Re: tailwheel (DJ Vegh)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: tailwheel (Brian Kraut)
3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: jury strut bracket placement (Phillips, Jack)
4. 07:09 AM - Re: Aileron bearings (Bill Church)
5. 08:46 AM - Re: Aileron bearings (Jack T. Textor)
6. 08:47 AM - wasnt someone looking for GN1 plans recently? (MICHAEL SILVIUS)
7. 08:54 AM - Re: tailwheel (Steve Eldredge)
8. 10:47 AM - Re: tailwheel (Rick Holland)
9. 11:14 AM - Re: tailwheel ()
10. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: jury strut bracket placement (Graham Hansen)
11. 02:32 PM - Re: tailwheel (hvandervoo@aol.com)
12. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: jury strut bracket placement (Rcaprd@aol.com)
13. 06:09 PM - Re: tailwheel (Dick Navratil)
14. 06:15 PM - Re: Model A engine (Dick Navratil)
15. 06:33 PM - Re: Matco Tailwheel (kmordecai001@comcast.net)
16. 06:35 PM - Re: tailwheel (DJ Vegh)
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I have a Matco 6" solid tire tailwheel on my Taylorcraft. Flown it
about 60 hours so far and I really like it. Especially considering it
cost me only a couple hundred bucks compared to over $1000 for a Scott
equivalent.
DJ Vegh
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From: Oscar Zuniga
To: Pietenpol List
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it
works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I
might have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA
checkride" email here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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I had a Matco on my KR and it worked good. Have you considered the Aviation
Products wheels which are sold as the homebuilder special wheeels by Spruce?
They are lighter than the Matco and are very good.
If you take off the Scott you can sell it for probably more than the cost of
a new Matco depending on the condition. I have sold some pretty beat up
Scotts for $200 and I have seen them in good shape on Barnstormers for over
$400. They are somewhere around $1,000 new. A lot of people withe
certified planes remove their Maule tailwheels which have a lot of shimmy
problems and replace them with the Scott.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:35 PM
To: Pietenpol List
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it
works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I might
have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA checkride"
email here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: jury strut bracket placement |
My jury struts are slightly off center, to avoid the dreaded harmonic
resonence, but more practically, to put them at a convenient place to
attach them to the spar.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Jack Phillips, PE
Sr. Manager, Disposable Products Research & Development
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Emch
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: jury strut bracket placement
Ted,
I did the same as Greg. I also haven't noticed anything, vibration or
otherwise, out of the ordinary. I did this because it is what Frank
Pavliga did and he has about 1400 hours. One of the really nice things
about the Piet is that there are so many high time ships out there that
are so well proven.
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Aileron bearings |
Jack,
Why do you want to use bigger bolts?
Granted, using 1/4" bolts will give you almost twice the strength of
3/16" bolts, but if you're using AN bolts, the 3/16" size will give you
approximately 2600 lb in shear, and 2800 lb in tension (per bolt). If
you're going to be putting that kind of load on your aileron pulleys,
you've got other, bigger concerns to worry about (like ripping the bolts
through the spars, for one). So. I'm guessing that you must have some
other reason(s) for wanting to "super-size" your fasteners.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Aileron bearings |
Thanks for the good thoughts Bill! AN3 will be much better.
Jack
www.textors.com
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| Subject: | wasnt someone looking for GN1 plans recently? |
just came across a set on ebay see item number:
180195579860
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I've been flying with the Matco 6" solid tailwheel for 10 years and 300+ h
ours. Only maintenance item so far has been to flip the wheel around to co
mbat a wear pattern. I'd recommend it.
Steve E.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it works
great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I might have a
ccess to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA checkride" em
ail here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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FYI Matco now has a pneumatic version of its tailwheel which is a little
heavier and a little more money. I asked them why anyone would want this
and they the main reason is its quieter. Of course we open cockpit
Peitenpolers don't care about a little extra noise do we?
Rick
On Dec 17, 2007 8:53 AM, Steve Eldredge <steve@byu.edu> wrote:
> I've been flying with the Matco 6" solid tailwheel for 10 years and 300+
> hours. Only maintenance item so far has been to flip the wheel around to
> combat a wear pattern. I'd recommend it.
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> Steve E.
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> *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Oscar Zuniga
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:35 PM
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> *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
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> Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it
> works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I might
> have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
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> Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA checkride"
> email here pretty soon...
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What Noise?
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Holland
Sent: December 17, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
FYI Matco now has a pneumatic version of its tailwheel which is a
little heavier and a little more money. I asked them why anyone would
want this and they the main reason is its quieter. Of course we open
cockpit Peitenpolers don't care about a little extra noise do we?
Rick
On Dec 17, 2007 8:53 AM, Steve Eldredge <steve@byu.edu> wrote:
I've been flying with the Matco 6" solid tailwheel for 10 years and
300+ hours. Only maintenance item so far has been to flip the wheel
around to combat a wear pattern. I'd recommend it.
Steve E.
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar
Zuniga
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it
works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I
might have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA checkride"
email here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: jury strut bracket placement |
I made my wing struts from Aeronca front and Taylorcraft rear struts some 38
years ago. The welded-in bushings on the Aeronca struts (for jury strut
attachment) were located in such a way that, when the struts were cut to
length for the Pietenpol, the jury struts joined the lift struts about 6
inches outboard from the mid point. At the time, I never even considered the
possibility of harmonic vibration; the jury strut position was dictated by
the bushing placement.
So, quite by accident, my jury strut attachment avoids the possibility of
harmonic vibration developing. And as a bonus, my jury struts are shorter
(and lighter!).
Several have stated that mounting the jury struts at the mid point hasn't
caused any problems, but it still is good practice to place them slightly
off the mid point of the lift struts. I was lucky in my ignorance some 38
years ago.
[As an aside, I flew my Pietenpol last Friday (Dec.14) for 30 minutes--quite
long enough at -5 degrees C (about 23 degrees F) with an 85 mph wind blowing
past one's ears. The airplane didn't mind it, but I was glad to get back on
the ground to warm up. I'm not as tough as I used to be; perhaps a bit
smarter, but not much.]
Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN)
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Oscar,
Flying and landing with it on Pietenpol NX15KV, I would?use it again.
What's up with SWRFI ? no more Hondo Fly-inn?
Hans
-----Original Message-----
From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 8:35 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel?? I have a Scott and it works great
but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter.? I might have access to
one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
?
Thanks.? And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA checkride" email
here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: jury strut bracket placement |
In a message dated 12/17/2007 9:04:05 AM Central Standard Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com writes:
My jury struts are slightly off center, to avoid the dreaded harmonic
resonence, but more practically, to put them at a convenient place to
attach them to the spar.
ditto for mine.
Chuck G.
NX770CG
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I have a solid Matco on NX2RN and have been happy with it. I dont
notice any noise. I have the new inflatable 6" Matco on NX25RN and I'm
happy with that also, it just looks nicer. The inflatable is actually a
couple of ounced lighter than solid.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga
To: Pietenpol List
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it
works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I
might have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA
checkride" email here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: Model A engine |
Welcome to the list Matt. Greg is right, Little Dearborne is a great place
for all old Ford parts. I'm north of St. Paul, there are lots of us around
here.
Dick N
----- Original Message -----
From: "MF" <ferrari@lakenet.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Model A engine
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the forum with some Model A engine questions.
> I saw somewhere on the internet a couple of recommended Model A engine
> books but can't remember where I saw the posting. Any guesses?
>
> I live in Minnesota, any recommendations as to where to find a good core
> motor?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=152531#152531
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Tailwheel |
Oscar,
I installed a 6" Matco on NX520SF last year, to replace the used Scott 2000 that
she came with. I'm pleased with it, but had to shorten my leafspring (shortened
J3) to keep the wheelbase about the same.
The Matco's tire contact patch is much farther aft of the mounting bolt hole than
the Scott. The whole assembly is about 2 - 2.5" longer. This gives it a longer
lever arm and resulted in more spring flex, to the point that the Matco's
steering axis was angled aft rather than forward when loaded. Shortening the
spring put it back where it belongs. Still using the Scott tension springs, and
it works great. Steers easily and does not release until you want it to. They
redesigned the mount last year to reduce steering effort. Added another .75"
to the length of the kingpin and bushing, and added a grease fitting, so make
sure you get the newer design. I think it's a well engineered design and recommend
it.
Dave Mordecai
Panacea, FL
NX520SF
> From: Oscar Zuniga
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
>
>
> Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and it works
> great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I might have a
> ccess to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
>
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<DIV>Oscar,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I installed a 6" Matco on NX520SF last year, to replace the used Scott 2000
that she came with. I'm pleased with it, but had to shorten
my leafspring (shortened J3) to keep the wheelbase about the same.</DIV>
<DIV>The Matco's tire contact patch is much farther aft of the mounting bolt hole than
the Scott. The whole assembly is about 2 - 2.5" longer. This
gives it a longer lever arm and resulted in more spring flex, to the point that
the Matco's steering axis was angled aft rather than forward when loaded.
Shortening the spring put it back where it belongs. Still using the
Scott tension springs, and it works great. Steers easily and does not release
until you want it to. They redesigned the mount last year to
reduce steering effort. Added another .75" to the length of the kingpin
and bushing, and added a grease fitting, so make sure you get the newer
design. I think it's a well engineered design and recommend it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave Mordecai</DIV>
<DIV>Panacea, FL</DIV>
<DIV>NX520SF</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> From: Oscar Zuniga <TAILDRAGS@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>> Subject: Pietenpol-List:
tailwheel <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco
tailwheel? I have a Scott and it works <BR>> great but was wondering about
the Matco, which is lighter. I might have a <BR>> ccess to one so I was wondering
what the feedback is on it. <BR>> </DIV>
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even lighter when inflated with hydrogen ;)
DJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Navratil
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
I have a solid Matco on NX2RN and have been happy with it. I dont
notice any noise. I have the new inflatable 6" Matco on NX25RN and I'm
happy with that also, it just looks nicer. The inflatable is actually a
couple of ounced lighter than solid.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga
To: Pietenpol List
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: tailwheel
Is anybody flying with the 6" Matco tailwheel? I have a Scott and
it works great but was wondering about the Matco, which is lighter. I
might have access to one so I was wondering what the feedback is on it.
Thanks. And I guess I'll have to post the "Santa and the FAA
checkride" email here pretty soon...
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
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