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1. 01:19 AM - Re: FW: Note from Jack at Palmer Group Bridget McNerney new resume (Rick Holland)
2. 02:12 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Rick Holland)
3. 04:45 AM - homebuilt design trivia (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
4. 09:04 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Bill Church)
5. 09:18 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (ALAN LYSCARS)
6. 09:24 AM - A little Levity... (Phillips, Jack)
7. 09:56 AM - Re: Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) Do not archive (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Gordon Bowen)
9. 10:21 AM - Note from Jack at Palmer Group Bridget McNerney (Oscar Zuniga)
10. 10:24 AM - Re: A little Levity... (Barry Davis)
11. 11:26 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Rick Holland)
12. 11:27 AM - Re: A little Levity... (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
13. 11:52 AM - Re: A little Levity... (Gordon Bowen)
14. 11:53 AM - Re: A little Levity... (Bill Church)
15. 11:59 AM - Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) (Bill Church)
16. 12:36 PM - Re: Re: A little Levity...do not archive (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG)
17. 01:17 PM - Pietenpols near Lynchburg VA? (Jim Markle)
18. 01:44 PM - Re: Pietenpols near Lynchburg VA? (Phillips, Jack)
19. 06:39 PM - Re: homebuilt design trivia (Ben Charvet)
20. 08:51 PM - Re: Re: A little Levity...do not archive (Rick Holland)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Note from Jack at Palmer Group Bridget McNerney |
new resume
Or even more important, can she TIG weld aluminum?
Rick
On Jan 8, 2008 11:25 AM, <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hey Jack,
>
> Her resume' is impressive but can she glue ribs together?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Greg
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
>
> > New resume...thanks
> >
> > Jack Textor
> > Vice President
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 3737 Woodland Avenue
> > Suite #300
> > West Des Moines, IA 50266
> > 515-225-7000
> > www.thepalmergroup.com
> >
> > This e-mail, including attachments, is covered by the Electronic
> > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential, and
> > may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you
> > are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or
> > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to
> > the sender that you have received the message in error, and then please
> > delete it. Thank you.
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> >
> &g t;
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bridget McNerney [mailto:bs_mcnerney@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:28 PM
> > To: Jack T. Textor
> > Subject: RE: Note from Jack at Palmer Group
> >
> > Good afternoon Jack,
> >
> > I hope you had a pleasant holiday and feel refreshed
> > for the new year. With the new year I am anticipating
> > new opportunities to surface. I was wondering if it
> > may be appropriate at this time for me to pay a visit
> > to your offices for an interview. I am sure you will
> > feel more comfortable passing my resume along once you
> > have a sense of how I may perform with the prospective
> > employer. Additionally I am open for temporary
> > assignments or a temp-hire position. If someone else
> > with your organization handles candidates for
> > temporary assignments I would appreciate their contact
> > information.
> >
> > I have updated my resume (which is attached) in an
> > attempt to create a broader net. Experience not listed
> > on my resume as it was in the far past was that in the
> > insurance industry-medical claims specifically both
> > payer and customer service representative.
> >
> > Thanks for your time!
> > Bridget McNerney
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
>
> > ____________
> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> >
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Jack T. Textor" <jtextor@thepalmergroup.com>
> To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 19:02:26 +0000
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: FW: Note from Jack at Palmer Group Bridget
> McNerney new resume
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Oh no is right, great chart you put together Bill. Now the question is which
wing are you going to build? (Since you spent all this time doing the plot I
assume you haven't built your ribs yet). If my ready to cover wings weren't
hanging in my garage I would do the Riblett.
Rick
On Jan 8, 2008 9:57 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
> A recent off-list discussion with another list member, regarding landing
> gear, led to it's obvious next step - a comparison of the Pietenpol airfoil
> with the Riblett airfoil.
> Okay, that doesn't make any sense, but the net result is that I spent a
> few hours, crunched a bunch of numbers to calculate co-ordinates and drew up
> the two airfoils, superimposed on each other.
> Before I go any further, let me state that my co-ordinates for the Riblett
> GA 30UA 612 airfoil came from an internet site (an airfoil discussion
> group), and the co-ordinates for the Pietenpol FC10 airfoil came from
> another website http://www.airminded.net/, so the accuracy cannot be
> guaranteed, but I think it provides a nice comparison.
> A few of the more obvious differences are:
> 1. Riblett airfoil is considerably thicker (approximately 7/8" at the
> deepest point)
> 2. Leading edge profiles are quite different, with the Pietenpol's being
> much sharper.
> 3. Riblett airfoil has much less undercamber.
>
> Anyway, here it is, in Adobe PDF format, for anyone that's curious.
>
> Bill C
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | homebuilt design trivia |
Here's one that surprised me.
Q: Which design came first, the Corben Junior and Baby Ace or the
Pietenpol Air Camper ?
A: Much to my surprise.........
O.G. "Ace" Corben designed and marketed the first homebuilt aircraft kit
in 1923; the famous "Baby Ace," followed by the "Jr. Ace," the "Cabin
Ace" and the beautiful "Super Ace!"
The Corben Aces have endured the tests of time thanks to successors like
Paul Poberezney, Cliff DuCharne, Thurman Baird and others who have
modernized and refined the designs over the years. These aircraft are
still being built, flown and admired by those who find the past as
exciting as the designs and materials of the present!
Now, thanks to the new "Sport Pilot" and "Light Sport Aircraft" rules
(ELSA & SLSA), these fine modernized aircraft can be factory-built, then
flown by pilots with a valid drivers license as medical certification!
Bill Wood, the new owner of the Ace Aircraft Company, pledges his effort
to revitalize the excitement surrounding the Corben legacy. The factory
is located in Toccoa Georgia at Foothills Aviation. Stop by any Saturday
for some coffee, donuts, and some of the greatest hangar flying
anywhere! Re-uniting Corben Ace builders, pilots, and dreamers will be
an annual undertaking at a factory sponsored Corben Ace Fly-in. Contact
us to get on our mailing list for more info.
Historical information provided by the Corben Club
<http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/> .
The Ace Aircraft Company is now selling plans for both models. Plans for
the "D" Model Corben Baby Ace cost $125.00, and the "E" Model Junior Ace
cost $145.00. Optional pre-welded assembles and pre-cut fittings for
both models are also available.
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| Subject: | Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Actually Rick, my ribs are all built.
And they're 100% Pietenpol FC10.
The comparison was done purely out of curiosity, to see how the two
compared.
I think the only way to do a real comparison of the two airfoils, as
applied to the Air Camper, would be to build a complete plane with the
traditional Pietenpol airfoil, and fly it, and record the performance
data, and then remove the Pietenpol wing, and replace it with a wing
built with the Riblett airfoil (without making any other changes to the
airplane), and repeat the process. Only then would one get a real
"apples to apples" comparison of how the airfoil affects performance of
this plane.My plan for the time being is to proceed with the first part
of the comparison - that is, build a complete plane with the traditional
Pietenpol airfoil. My gut feeling is that the Riblett airfoil probably
would give some performance improvements, but nothing near some of the
claims I have heard (someone I overheard at Brodhead said the Riblett
airfoil would double the cruise speed, cut takeoff distance in half AND
lower the stall speed - somehow I don't think it will do that.).
Bill C
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| Subject: | Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Bill:
I've purchased Harry's full-scale Riblett airfoil drawing. I wonder if
you wouldn't mind posting your table of ordinates for the Riblett rib?
Thanks!
Al in NH
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again)
A recent off-list discussion with another list member, regarding
landing gear, led to it's obvious next step - a comparison of the
Pietenpol airfoil with the Riblett airfoil.
Okay, that doesn't make any sense, but the net result is that I spent
a few hours, crunched a bunch of numbers to calculate co-ordinates and
drew up the two airfoils, superimposed on each other.
Before I go any further, let me state that my co-ordinates for the
Riblett GA 30UA 612 airfoil came from an internet site (an airfoil
discussion group), and the co-ordinates for the Pietenpol FC10 airfoil
came from another website http://www.airminded.net/, so the accuracy
cannot be guaranteed, but I think it provides a nice comparison.
A few of the more obvious differences are:
1. Riblett airfoil is considerably thicker (approximately 7/8" at the
deepest point)
2. Leading edge profiles are quite different, with the Pietenpol's
being much sharper.
3. Riblett airfoil has much less undercamber.
Anyway, here it is, in Adobe PDF format, for anyone that's curious.
Bill C
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| Subject: | A little Levity... |
I found this on the RV-10 List and about died laughing. Of course that
list is much more cantankerous and abrasive than the Pietenpol list,
probably because the RV-10 attracts a different "quality" of builder
than the Pietenpol. I must say, I enjoy this list much more. Not so
much whining as the RV-10 list, and I don't have to hear any Pietenpol
builder complaining about the lack of customer support he got for the
$52,000 dual Chelton EFIS glass panel he installed in his "homebuilt".
But enough of the following applies to the Pietenpol list that I thought
y'all would appreciate it...
HOW MANY EMAIL LIST MEMBERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
Another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp".
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a light bulb forum.
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum.
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique and what brands are faulty.
5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs.
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy.
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs".
1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W. isn't
the brightest bulb.
4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.
1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.
1 guy wondering when Can-Am is going to step up to the plate and make
lightbulbs as bright as the other manufactures.
3 guys wondering what the 2012 lightbulbs will be like.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) Do not |
archive
They forgot to add doubling carrying capability and cutting fuel cost in half while
doubling TBO.LOL
Steve Dortch
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again)
> Actually Rick, my ribs are all built.
> And they're 100% Pietenpol FC10.
> The comparison was done purely out of curiosity, to see how the two
> compared.
>
> I think the only way to do a real comparison of the two airfoils, as
> applied to the Air Camper, would be to build a complete plane with the
> traditional Pietenpol airfoil, and fly it, and record the performance
> data, and then remove the Pietenpol wing, and replace it with a wing
> built with the Riblett airfoil (without making any other changes
> to the
> airplane), and repeat the process. Only then would one get a real
> "apples to apples" comparison of how the airfoil affects
> performance of
> this plane.My plan for the time being is to proceed with the first
> partof the comparison - that is, build a complete plane with the
> traditionalPietenpol airfoil. My gut feeling is that the Riblett
> airfoil probably
> would give some performance improvements, but nothing near some of the
> claims I have heard (someone I overheard at Brodhead said the Riblett
> airfoil would double the cruise speed, cut takeoff distance in
> half AND
> lower the stall speed - somehow I don't think it will do that.).
>
>
> Bill C
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Or better yet, for about 5 grand by the more modern efficient NACA wing
design off of a Cub, T-Craft or Aeronca recover them, build your
fuselage/tail feathers over the summer and being flying the darn thing
by spring 2009. So much for being a purist, huh.
Gordon
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Holland
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again)
Oh no is right, great chart you put together Bill. Now the question is
which wing are you going to build? (Since you spent all this time doing
the plot I assume you haven't built your ribs yet). If my ready to cover
wings weren't hanging in my garage I would do the Riblett.
Rick
On Jan 8, 2008 9:57 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
A recent off-list discussion with another list member, regarding
landing gear, led to it's obvious next step - a comparison of the
Pietenpol airfoil with the Riblett airfoil.
Okay, that doesn't make any sense, but the net result is that I
spent a few hours, crunched a bunch of numbers to calculate co-ordinates
and drew up the two airfoils, superimposed on each other.
Before I go any further, let me state that my co-ordinates for the
Riblett GA 30UA 612 airfoil came from an internet site (an airfoil
discussion group), and the co-ordinates for the Pietenpol FC10 airfoil
came from another website http://www.airminded.net/, so the accuracy
cannot be guaranteed, but I think it provides a nice comparison.
A few of the more obvious differences are:
1. Riblett airfoil is considerably thicker (approximately 7/8" at
the deepest point)
2. Leading edge profiles are quite different, with the Pietenpol's
being much sharper.
3. Riblett airfoil has much less undercamber.
Anyway, here it is, in Adobe PDF format, for anyone that's curious.
Bill C
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Note from Jack at Palmer Group Bridget McNerney |
>Or even more important, can she TIG weld aluminum?You can always hire that
work out. What I want to know is, can she land a taildragger in a crosswi
nd?Oscar ZunigaSan Antonio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http:
//www.flysquirrel.net
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| Subject: | Re: A little Levity... |
A little Levity...
You know, I think I have seen everyone of those one time or another.
(I guess that makes me in the list of "Me TOO's"
Barry Davis
Big Piet
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| Subject: | Re: Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
That is also my plan Bill, some Piet builders get bored after finishing
their Piet and they build an other Piet, when I get bored I will build a
Riblett wing (already bought the plans), comparison flight test as you
described, keep the better wing and sell the other one (or maybe keep it for
a spare).
Rick
On Jan 9, 2008 8:25 AM, Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com> wrote:
> Actually Rick, my ribs are all built.
> And they're 100% Pietenpol FC10.
> The comparison was done purely out of curiosity, to see how the two
> compared.
>
> I think the only way to do a real comparison of the two airfoils, as
> applied to the Air Camper, would be to build a complete plane with the
> traditional Pietenpol airfoil, and fly it, and record the performance data,
> and then remove the Pietenpol wing, and replace it with a wing built with
> the Riblett airfoil (without making any other changes to the airplane), and
> repeat the process. Only then would one get a real "apples to apples"
> comparison of how the airfoil affects performance of this plane.My plan
> for the time being is to proceed with the first part of the comparison -
> that is, build a complete plane with the traditional Pietenpol airfoil. My
> gut feeling is that the Riblett airfoil probably would give some performance
> improvements, but nothing near some of the claims I have heard (someone I
> overheard at Brodhead said the Riblett airfoil would double the cruise
> speed, cut takeoff distance in half AND lower the stall speed - somehow I
> don't think it will do that.).
>
>
> Bill C
>
> **
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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| Subject: | Re: A little Levity... |
Thanks Jack great stuff for an otherwise dull day
John
In a message dated 1/9/2008 12:25:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Jack.Phillips@cardinalhealth.com writes:
I found this on the RV-10 List and about died laughing. Of course that lis
t
is much more cantankerous and abrasive than the Pietenpol list, probably
because the RV-10 attracts a different =9Cquality=9D of builder
than the
Pietenpol. I must say, I enjoy this list much more. Not so much whining a
s the RV-10
list, and I don=99t have to hear any Pietenpol builder complaining abo
ut the
lack of customer support he got for the $52,000 dual Chelton EFIS glass pan
el
he installed in his =9Chomebuilt=9D. But enough of the follow
ing applies to the
Pietenpol list that I thought y=99all would appreciate it
HOW MANY EMAIL LIST MEMBERS DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB?
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
.
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
Another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid.
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
.
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct.
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a light bulb forum.
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum.
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique and what brands are faulty.
5 People to post pics of their own light bulbs.
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's.
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy.
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a search on light bulbs before posting questions about
light bulbs".
1 to bring politics into the discussion by adding that George W. isn't
the brightest bulb.
4 more to get into personal attacks over their political views.
1 moderator to lock the light bulb thread.
1 guy wondering when Can-Am is going to step up to the plate and make
lightbulbs as bright as the other manufactures.
3 guys wondering what the 2012 lightbulbs will be like.
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC
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| Subject: | Re: A little Levity... |
A little Levity...Jack,
This was great. All the reasons good why I participate little in the
Canard-Pusher yahoo forum, over 650 members. Every issue of a big
"contankerous" forum group was covered.
Gordon
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| Subject: | A little Levity... |
Sorry, couldn't resist...
I guess we should be seeing four more sometime soon.
That was good, Jack.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Airfoil comparison (oh no, not again) |
Al,
Here's what I used for the co-ordinates:
Here's the GA30UA612:
x y
1 0.00126
0.95 0.01302
0.9 0.02439
0.85 0.0354
0.8 0.04605
0.75 0.05638
0.7 0.06637
0.65 0.07568
0.6 0.08406
0.55 0.09132
0.5 0.09704
0.45 0.10075
0.4 0.10261
0.35 0.10278
0.3 0.10106
0.25 0.09728
0.2 0.0911
0.15 0.08189
0.1 0.0686
0.075 0.05982
0.05 0.04877
0.025 0.03391
0.0125 0.02335
0.0075 0.01776
0.005 0.01429
0.0025 0.00984
0 0
0.0025 -0.0076
0.005 -0.01015
0.0075 -0.01194
0.0125 -0.01453
0.025 -0.01837
0.05 -0.02231
0.075 -0.02418
0.1 -0.02504
0.15 -0.02501
0.2 -0.02366
0.25 -0.02156
0.3 -0.01898
0.35 -0.0162
0.4 -0.01345
0.45 -0.01087
0.5 -0.00884
0.55 -0.00774
0.6 -0.0072
0.65 -0.00698
0.7 -0.00691
0.75 -0.00682
0.8 -0.00641
0.85 -0.00566
0.9 -0.00457
0.95 -0.0031
1 -0.00126
As I said before, this data came from a posting someone made to a
discussion group. I can't vouch for it's validity. Anyone seroiusly
considering using the Riblett airfoil should probably plunk down the 18
bucks and order Mr. Riblett's book from EAA.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: A little Levity...do not archive |
You should consider upgrading to the newer flourescent lightbulbs. they are more
efficient and save money. OF course, they are not origional.
Do not archive
Steve Dortch
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A little Levity...
> Sorry, couldn't resist...
>
>
> I guess we should be seeing four more sometime soon.
>
> That was good, Jack.
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Pietenpols near Lynchburg VA? |
I'm spending the week of Jan 21 in Lynchburg VA...
Any Pietenpols/Pietenpol folks around for a visit?
Glenn?
Thanks,
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Pietenpols near Lynchburg VA? |
Not yet - give me a couple of years and mine will be based at W91 (Smith
Mountain Lake), about 30 miles south of Lynchburg.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC (for now)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Markle
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpols near Lynchburg VA?
<jim_markle@mindspring.com>
I'm spending the week of Jan 21 in Lynchburg VA...
Any Pietenpols/Pietenpol folks around for a visit?
Glenn?
Thanks,
Jim Markle
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| Subject: | Re: homebuilt design trivia |
I'm flying a Baby Ace that was built in 1955 and looks similar to the
one featured in Mechanix Illustrated in an article written by Paul
Poberezney.
I'm hoping it flies like a Pietenpol. Its been a lot of fun, and I've
logged nearly 70 hours in it in the last year. Now I'll have plenty of
tailwheel time
when my Piet is finally finished (Although having something to fly does
take some of the urgency off of building)
Ben Charvet
Baby Ace N39D
Piet NX866BC some day
Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC] wrote:
> Here's one that surprised me.
>
> Q: Which design came first, the Corben Junior and Baby Ace or the
> Pietenpol Air Camper ?
>
> A: Much to my surprise.........
>
>
>
> O.G. "Ace" Corben designed and marketed the first homebuilt aircraft
> kit in 1923; the famous "Baby Ace," followed by the "Jr. Ace," the
> "Cabin Ace" and the beautiful "Super Ace!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The Corben Aces have endured the tests of time thanks to successors
> like Paul Poberezney, Cliff DuCharne, Thurman Baird and others who
> have modernized and refined the designs over the years. These aircraft
> are still being built, flown and admired by those who find the past as
> exciting as the designs and materials of the present!
>
> Now, thanks to the new "Sport Pilot" and "Light Sport Aircraft" rules
> (ELSA & SLSA), these fine modernized aircraft can be factory-built,
> then flown by pilots with a valid drivers license as medical
> certification!
>
> Bill Wood, the new owner of the Ace Aircraft Company, pledges his
> effort to revitalize the excitement surrounding the Corben legacy. The
> factory is located in Toccoa Georgia at Foothills Aviation. Stop by
> any Saturday for some coffee, donuts, and some of the greatest hangar
> flying anywhere! Re-uniting Corben Ace builders, pilots, and dreamers
> will be an annual undertaking at a factory sponsored Corben Ace
> Fly-in. Contact us to get on our mailing list for more info.
>
> /Historical information provided by the/ Corben Club
> <http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/>.
>
> The Ace Aircraft Company is now selling plans for both models. Plans
> for the "D" Model Corben Baby Ace cost $125.00, and the "E" Model
> Junior Ace cost $145.00. Optional pre-welded assembles and pre-cut
> fittings for both models are also available.
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: A little Levity...do not archive |
But haven't you heard? Fluorescent light will make you go blind!
do not archive
On Jan 9, 2008 1:34 PM, Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG <
steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil> wrote:
> steven.d.dortch@us.army.mil>
>
> You should consider upgrading to the newer flourescent lightbulbs. they
> are more efficient and save money. OF course, they are not origional.
>
> Do not archive
> Steve Dortch
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Church <eng@canadianrogers.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 14:13
> Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: A little Levity...
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
> > Sorry, couldn't resist...
> >
> >
> > I guess we should be seeing four more sometime soon.
> >
> > That was good, Jack.
> > Do not archive
> >
>
>
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Rick Holland
ObjectAge Ltd.
Castle Rock, Colorado
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