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     1. 12:45 AM - slightly off topic (DJ Vegh)
     2. 06:00 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Mike Volckmann)
     3. 06:33 AM - Brodhead '99 and some sad news (Oscar Zuniga)
     4. 07:06 AM - Re: slightly off topic (ALAN LYSCARS)
     5. 07:17 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Rick Holland)
     6. 07:51 AM - Re: slightly off topic (bike.mike)
     7. 08:27 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Brian Kraut)
     8. 08:35 AM - Re: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! (Bill Church)
     9. 08:46 AM - EAA Video (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    10. 09:05 AM - Re: slightly off topic (DJ Vegh)
    11. 09:16 AM - EAA Piet video (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
    12. 09:20 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com)
    13. 09:35 AM - Mike Cuy and the eternal fountain of youth (Oscar Zuniga)
    14. 09:47 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    15. 10:12 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (Bryan Lowe)
    16. 10:35 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (Ben Ramler)
    17. 10:36 AM - testimonial  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
    18. 10:46 AM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Michael Silvius)
    19. 12:01 PM - Piet DVD (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC])
    20. 12:50 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Graham Hansen)
    21. 03:03 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Don Emch)
    22. 04:53 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Dick Navratil)
    23. 10:47 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Darrel Jones)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | slightly off topic | 
      
      But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around this 
      forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... 
      just busy with new work.
      
      This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360=B0 spherical 
      panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground. 
      
      http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      
      http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      
      http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      
      http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      
      
      DJ Vegh
      AZ ChopperCam
      Mesa, AZ
      
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| Subject:  | Re: slightly off topic | 
      
      DJ,=0A=0AVery cool.=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: D
      J Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Frida
      y, January 11, 2008 1:44:55 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topi
      c=0A=0A=0ABut hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around 
      this forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... 
      just busy with new work.=0A =0AThis is what I am doing these days.  Shootin
      g 360=B0 spherical panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground. 
      =0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppe
      rcam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_mon
      roe.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm=0A =0A =0AD
      ===================
      
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| Subject:  | Brodhead '99 and some sad news | 
      
      
      Steve;
      
      To me, there would be no question... rebuild the airplane and get it back i
      n the air!  You can't build another one quicker than you can rebuild one th
      at you already have, and once you've built one, repairing and rebuilding is
       far easier than trying to figure out a new one from scratch.
      
      Or sell it to somebody here who is looking for a way to get into the game.
      
      I've always liked the paint job on your airplane, too...Oscar ZunigaSan Ant
      onio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
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| Subject:  | Re: slightly off topic | 
      
      Nice work DJ!
      
      Al Lyscars
      Manchester, NH
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: DJ Vegh 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:44 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic
      
      
        But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around this 
      forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... 
      just busy with new work.
      
        This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360=B0 spherical 
      panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground. 
      
        http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      
        http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      
        http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      
        http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      
      
        DJ Vegh
        AZ ChopperCam
        Mesa, AZ
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: slightly off topic | 
      
      Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just in
      the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to aviation
      types.
      
      Rick
      
      On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh <dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
      
      >  But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around this
      > forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... jus
      t
      > busy with new work.
      >
      > This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas.
      > Both from a helicopter and on the ground.
      >
      > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      >
      > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      >
      > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      >
      > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      >
      >
      > DJ Vegh
      > AZ ChopperCam
      > Mesa, AZ
      >
      > *
      >
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      ===========
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Rick Holland
      ObjectAge Ltd.
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
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| Subject:  | Re: slightly off topic | 
      
      I didn't try the other shots, but the downtown Phoenix shot is very 
      nearly 360 in all directions.
      Mike Hardaway
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rick Holland 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:17 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic
      
      
        Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? 
      Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur 
      to aviation types.
      
        Rick
      
      
        On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
      
          But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around 
      this forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys 
      anymore... just busy with new work.
      
          This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360=B0 spherical 
      panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground. 
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      
      
          DJ Vegh
          AZ ChopperCam
          Mesa, AZ
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
        -- 
        Rick Holland
        ObjectAge Ltd.
        Castle Rock, Colorado 
      
      
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| Subject:  | slightly off topic | 
      
      Does not say it on the site, but holding the shift key will zoom in and ctrl
      will zoom out.
      
      Brian Kraut
      Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
      www.engalt.com
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bike.mike
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:00 AM
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic
      
      
        I didn't try the other shots, but the downtown Phoenix shot is very nearly
      360 in all directions.
        Mike Hardaway
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Rick Holland
          To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
          Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:17 AM
          Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic
      
      
          Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just
      in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to
      aviation types.
      
          Rick
      
      
          On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
      
            But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around this
      forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just
      busy with new work.
      
            This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360 spherical
      panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground.
      
            http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      
            http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      
            http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      
            http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      
      
            DJ Vegh
            AZ ChopperCam
            Mesa, AZ
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
          --
          Rick Holland
          ObjectAge Ltd.
          Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic
      s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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| Subject:  | great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! | 
      
      How is it that Mike Cuy looks so young in the video, but his plane looks
      the same as it does now?
      
      By the way, that was a good video. Lots of nice footage.
      
      
      Bill C.
      
      do not archive
      
      
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      I checked out the video, pretty neat stuff, I can vaguely remember a show  
      years ago that feature the Pietenpol on TV I think it was an hour show by one of
      
       the discovery channels. That's the thing that captivated me and made me want 
      to  know more and ultimately build one. 
      
      I would love to purchase a copy of the show, however have no idea where one  
      would find it, I don't believe it was a speed channel show, but it may have 
      been  when they featured the Wings segments.
      
      Any remember the show? or know where I can get some info about it or a DVD  
      copy?
      
      It was a great show and interviewed a bunch of people while introducing the  
      poor uneducated  populous about the designer, the process and the  bird.
      
      John
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: slightly off topic | 
      
      Rick,
      
      not quite sure what you mean but on most of the panoramas you can view 
      any angle you desire.  Straight up or straight down included.  
      
      There's quite a trick to not having the helicopter and camera mount in 
      the shot. Primarily the tailboom and landing gear skids and the vertical 
      view.  Trade secret!
      
      DJ
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Rick Holland 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:17 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic
      
      
        Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? 
      Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur 
      to aviation types.
      
        Rick
      
      
        On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote:
      
          But hoping some of you find it interesting.  I don't hang around 
      this forum much lately.  It's not because I don't like you guys 
      anymore... just busy with new work.
      
          This is what I am doing these days.  Shooting 360=B0 spherical 
      panoramas.  Both from a helicopter and on the ground. 
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm
      
          http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm
      
      
          DJ Vegh
          AZ ChopperCam
          Mesa, AZ
      
      
      " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      tp://forums.matronics.com
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
      
      
        -- 
        Rick Holland
        ObjectAge Ltd.
        Castle Rock, Colorado 
      
      
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      To Bill Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane
      looking the same !    I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years
      to look this good honey'
      and she just rolls her eyes.  
      
      John...the original production of that EAA video segment was shot by
      Speedvision and aired sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter
      of 2000 on Speedvision and was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh
      1999.    
      
      I made that Cessna 210 pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but
      good.    He was a cocky SOB on the radio too.    Photo One my ass. 
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: EAA Piet video | 
      
      I can't get the link to work at all now. What  happened to it?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Mike Cuy and the eternal fountain of youth | 
      
      
      
      Bill asked-
      
      >How is it that Mike Cuy looks so young in the video, but his plane looks
      >the same as it does now?
      
      It's a program called "PhotoShop", Bill.  By using it, the producers at EAA were
      able to knock a good dozen years off of Mike's appearance, not to mention about
      two full kegs worth of beer belly and an extra chin.  They felt that publishing
      the raw unedited footage might lead to credibility problems for non-aviation
      types who saw his beautiful airplane but couldn't believe that somebody like
      Mike could have built such a beauty, much less fit in it.  The voice-over
      was not really Mike speaking, either... they have Hollywood studio men with youthful
      voices and good enunciation who did the sound track for the video.
      
      I think Mike may have paid them off, too ;o)
      
      The very best part of the video, for me, was hearing Steve's airplane spring to
      life.  I know that sound!!!  Pocketa-pocketa-pop-pocketa goes the A65.  Just
      viewing the video made me once again pull out my stack of sectionals and keep
      plugging away at possible routes and stops to Brodhead this summer.
      
      Oscar Zuniga
      Air Camper NX41CC
      San Antonio, TX
      mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
      website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: EAA Piet video | 
      
      Mike, 
      
      I got your DVD along with Chucks now I want the official one, any idea how  I 
      can get the entire show DVD its a definite need for my library.
      
      I have a place already for it in my library it will go right next to your  
      DVD and between chuck and the Great Waldo Pepper
      
      BTW they are not lying to ya, having met ya in Broadhead 07 I can attest to  
      the differences between the EAA 1999 show, the Mike DVD and the in person  
      meeting... Sorry  The good news and the bad are the same, the good news is  
      you'll never look any better than you do today, the bad news is: you'll never 
      look 
      as good as you once did and I mean it in the nicest possible way!
      
      That my friend is the painful truth
      
      Mike thanks for the info, if you can get a line on how to order a copy of  
      the DVD from that show I would appreciate the info.
      
      Thanks again
      
      John
      
      
      In a message dated 1/11/2008 12:17:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
      michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
      
      
      To Bill  Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane looking 
      the same  !    I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years to look  this 
      good honey'
      and she just rolls her  eyes.  
      
      John...the original  production of that EAA video segment was shot by 
      Speedvision and aired  sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter of 2000
      on 
      Speedvision and  was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh 1999.     
      
      I made that Cessna 210  pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but 
      good.    He  was a cocky SOB on the radio too.    Photo One my ass.  
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
      (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) 
      (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: EAA Piet video | 
      
      I gotta say, this video was pretty inspirational to me!
      
      Bryan
      Seattle
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: EAA Piet video | 
      
      since we are talking about piet videos. A qiucky for MR. Cuy. Michael do you still
      have that video you put together when you were building contraption?
      
      thanks,
      
      Ben Ramler
      "here we go again"
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: "AMsafetyC@aol.com" <AMsafetyC@aol.com>
      Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:47:08 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video
      
      
      Mike, 
      
      I got your DVD along with Chucks now I want the official one, any idea how I can
      get the entire show DVD its a definite need for my library.
      
      I have a place already for it in my library it will go right next to your DVD and
      between chuck and the Great Waldo Pepper
      
      BTW they are not lying to ya, having met ya in Broadhead 07 I can attest to the
      differences between the EAA 1999 show, the Mike DVD and the in person meeting...
      Sorry  The good news and the bad are the same, the good news is you'll never
      look any better than you do today, the bad news is: you'll never look as good
      as you once did and I mean it in the nicest possible way!
      
      That my friend is the painful truth
      
      Mike thanks for the info, if you can get a line on how to order a copy of the DVD
      from that show I would appreciate the info.
      
      Thanks again
      
      John
      
      In a message dated 1/11/2008 12:17:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov
      writes:
      
      To Bill Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane looking the
      same !    I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years to look this good
      honey'
      and she just rolls her eyes.  
      
      John...the original production of that EAA video segment was shot by Speedvision
      and aired sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter of 2000 on Speedvision
      and was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh 1999.    
      
      I made that Cessna 210 pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but good.
        He was a cocky SOB on the radio too.    Photo One my ass. 
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
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      Oscar, group, 
      
      I consider myself somewhat of a BS'er too Oscar but it is always nice to
      hear from a professional:) 
      
      I believe the EAA video is more about the airplane than the owners or
      builders in that the testimony we can take away from all of this is that
      despite almost a decade of my continued 'growth' around the middle the
      Pietenpol continues to levitate me summer after summer not giving
      opinion one way or the other about how many more inches of seat belt it
      might take to buckle me in.   Though it's pilots may age, the Pietenpol
      design does not.  
      
      Mike C. 
      
      
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      Steve:
      
      I am sorry to hear that your baby is broken. A rebuild is definitely in 
      order. 
      There is a ready built fuselage on ebay right now I think quite 
      reasonably priced
      It may just be the way to go.
      
      see Item number: 320204694335
      
       Michael in Maine
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steve Eldredge 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:30 AM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news
      
      
        Those were the days!  That trip by far was the most memorable I've 
      made in an airplane.   It literally brought me to tears when I realized 
      I was on my first return leg home after Brodhead 99'.
      
         
      
        Now for some more tear shedding.
      
         
      
        I've put off writing about this for almost a month,  but my Aircamper 
      NX7229R has been mortally damaged in a landing mishap.  The poor thing 
      has had its back broken.  I sent it to live with my brother in south of 
      Tucson for the winter and on Dec 20, he called to say that he was OK, 
      but the piet was badly damaged when he pancaked it onto the runway.  A 
      non-pilot airpark resident had run a stop sign on the bisecting access 
      road, and stopped in the middle of the runway when he saw my brother 
      coming.  Instead of simply rolling on through he jammed it in reverse 
      and backed up.  This distraction caused my brother to let the plane 
      slow, stall and drop to the runway.  The longerons and the crossbrace at 
      the front gear/front lift strut attach point was crushed and buckled.  
      The fittings were pushed together about 4-5 inches.   The wings sagged 
      down as the gear splayed, but somehow the prop remained untouched except 
      for a small dent on the leading edge when it hit a mesquite tree when 
      the poor piet left the runway.   The lower cowling was damaged and the 
      gascolator deformed.   Gas spilled, but thank heavens there was no fire. 
       There were no injuries  to the solo pilot.  The crash was witness by an 
      off duty officer and pilot, but since it occurred on private property no 
      citation was issued.  The driver has denied any responsibility and 
      offered nothing in reparations.  Only thing left to do is file a 
      lawsuit, but that really isn't in either of our natures.   We are trying 
      to decide if the 10 year love affair with Aircamper 29R is over, or 
      simply another chapter is to be written as we build up or repair the 
      damaged fuselage.   My brother has said he will buy me out and rebuild.  
       I still have the Stinson to fly, but can hardly imagine being without a 
      low and slow open cockpit airplane.   Something in my head is whispering 
       0-200 powered?  Maybe a new Rotec?  What about a 120% scale Piet with 
      the 140HP LOM?
      
         
      
        Steve 'E'
      
        Spanish Fork, UT.
      
         
      
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar 
      Zuniga
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:37 PM
        To: Pietenpol List
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!!
      
         
      
        Ya gotta see it... Mike Cuy, Steve Eldredge, Lowell Frank, and a cast 
      of Pietenpols!  8:05 of video:
      
        http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=1373284259
      
        Oscar Zuniga
        San Antonio, TX
        mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
        website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
      comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      
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      Ben, 
      
      Yes, I still have my 2.5 hour home production of building and flying my
      Pietenpol.     The DVD is very effective in sending unwanted family
      members
      out of any room you happen to be watching from as well as an FDA
      approved substitute for Ambien, Ambien CR, and Lunesta if taken
      regularly and 
      as prescribed.   Side effects may include divorce, restless building
      syndrome, erratic credit card purchases from Wicks, Aircraft Spruce, and
      other
      aircraft supply houses.   $24 to 298 Runn Street, Berea, Ohio, 44017 for
      priority mail US shipping.    
      
      More here:  http://users.aol.com/bpabpabpa/cuyvideo.html
      
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      Steve,
      
      Oscar is right. Rebuild it and continue to enjoy open cockpit flying! 
      
      Even if you have to build a complete fuselage structure, you won't have 
      to build all the other stuff that takes so much time. And you can 
      incorporate little modifications, based on the experience you have 
      gained, to make an even better Pietenpol.
      
      Go for it! 
      
      Good luck,
      
      Graham Hansen      (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly Alberta)
      
      
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      Steve,
      
      I'll join the crying too.  Once again the Piet structure pulled through to protect
      the pilot.  That's really great your brother was okay.  Like Graham said building
      a fuselage might not be a bad idea.  The structure itself does go together
      pretty quickly.  The ambition can get kinda low after something like that
      but I'll bet if you give it a little time the desire will really burn to get
      it going again!  You and your plane have created it's own legend over the last
      several years!
      
      I say go for it too!
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=157548#157548
      
      
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      Steve
      Very sorry to hear of your loss.  If you would seriously like to 
      consider re-building and take a vacation at the same time, we can build 
      you a new fuselage in the Wood shop at Sun n Fun.  In one week you could 
      have a basic fuselage.  All you would have to do is provide the basic 
      materials.  We are always looking for projects
      I will be out of town getting Sun next week so no return posts till 
      then.
      Dick N.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Steve Eldredge 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:30 PM
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news
      
      
        Those were the days!  That trip by far was the most memorable I've 
      made in an airplane.   It literally brought me to tears when I realized 
      I was on my first return leg home after Brodhead 99'.
      
         
      
        Now for some more tear shedding.
      
         
      
        I've put off writing about this for almost a month,  but my Aircamper 
      NX7229R has been mortally damaged in a landing mishap.  The poor thing 
      has had its back broken.  I sent it to live with my brother in south of 
      Tucson for the winter and on Dec 20, he called to say that he was OK, 
      but the piet was badly damaged when he pancaked it onto the runway.  A 
      non-pilot airpark resident had run a stop sign on the bisecting access 
      road, and stopped in the middle of the runway when he saw my brother 
      coming.  Instead of simply rolling on through he jammed it in reverse 
      and backed up.  This distraction caused my brother to let the plane 
      slow, stall and drop to the runway.  The longerons and the crossbrace at 
      the front gear/front lift strut attach point was crushed and buckled.  
      The fittings were pushed together about 4-5 inches.   The wings sagged 
      down as the gear splayed, but somehow the prop remained untouched except 
      for a small dent on the leading edge when it hit a mesquite tree when 
      the poor piet left the runway.   The lower cowling was damaged and the 
      gascolator deformed.   Gas spilled, but thank heavens there was no fire. 
       There were no injuries  to the solo pilot.  The crash was witness by an 
      off duty officer and pilot, but since it occurred on private property no 
      citation was issued.  The driver has denied any responsibility and 
      offered nothing in reparations.  Only thing left to do is file a 
      lawsuit, but that really isn't in either of our natures.   We are trying 
      to decide if the 10 year love affair with Aircamper 29R is over, or 
      simply another chapter is to be written as we build up or repair the 
      damaged fuselage.   My brother has said he will buy me out and rebuild.  
       I still have the Stinson to fly, but can hardly imagine being without a 
      low and slow open cockpit airplane.   Something in my head is whispering 
       0-200 powered?  Maybe a new Rotec?  What about a 120% scale Piet with 
      the 140HP LOM?
      
         
      
        Steve 'E'
      
        Spanish Fork, UT.
      
         
      
        From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar 
      Zuniga
        Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:37 PM
        To: Pietenpol List
        Subject: Pietenpol-List: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!!
      
         
      
        Ya gotta see it... Mike Cuy, Steve Eldredge, Lowell Frank, and a cast 
      of Pietenpols!  8:05 of video:
      
        http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=1373284259
      
        Oscar Zuniga
        San Antonio, TX
        mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
        website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics.
      comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news | 
      
      
      Graham Hansen wrote:
      > Steve,
      >  
      > Oscar is right. Rebuild it and continue to enjoy open cockpit flying!
      >  
      > Even if you have to build a complete fuselage structure, you won't 
      > have to build all the other stuff that takes so much time. And you can 
      > incorporate little modifications, based on the experience you have 
      > gained, to make an even better Pietenpol.
      >  
      > Go for it!
      >  
      > Good luck,
      >  
      > Graham Hansen      (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly Alberta)
      Steve,
      
      I have a couple of spare fuselage sides here in Sonoma, CA that you can 
      have as a start if you can find a way to get them up there. We're at 
      least on the same side of the Mississippi.
      
      Darrel Jones
      Pfeifer Sport version, N154JP
      
      
 
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