---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/11/08: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:45 AM - slightly off topic (DJ Vegh) 2. 06:00 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Mike Volckmann) 3. 06:33 AM - Brodhead '99 and some sad news (Oscar Zuniga) 4. 07:06 AM - Re: slightly off topic (ALAN LYSCARS) 5. 07:17 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Rick Holland) 6. 07:51 AM - Re: slightly off topic (bike.mike) 7. 08:27 AM - Re: slightly off topic (Brian Kraut) 8. 08:35 AM - Re: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! (Bill Church) 9. 08:46 AM - EAA Video (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 10. 09:05 AM - Re: slightly off topic (DJ Vegh) 11. 09:16 AM - EAA Piet video (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 12. 09:20 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (RAMPEYBOY@aol.com) 13. 09:35 AM - Mike Cuy and the eternal fountain of youth (Oscar Zuniga) 14. 09:47 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (AMsafetyC@aol.com) 15. 10:12 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (Bryan Lowe) 16. 10:35 AM - Re: EAA Piet video (Ben Ramler) 17. 10:36 AM - testimonial (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 18. 10:46 AM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Michael Silvius) 19. 12:01 PM - Piet DVD (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]) 20. 12:50 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Graham Hansen) 21. 03:03 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Don Emch) 22. 04:53 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Dick Navratil) 23. 10:47 PM - Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news (Darrel Jones) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:41 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work. This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm DJ Vegh AZ ChopperCam Mesa, AZ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:10 AM PST US From: Mike Volckmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic DJ,=0A=0AVery cool.=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: D J Vegh =0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Frida y, January 11, 2008 1:44:55 AM=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topi c=0A=0A=0ABut hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work.=0A =0AThis is what I am doing these days. Shootin g 360=B0 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. =0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppe rcam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_mon roe.shtm=0A =0Ahttp://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm=0A =0A =0AD =================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:07 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead '99 and some sad news Steve; To me, there would be no question... rebuild the airplane and get it back i n the air! You can't build another one quicker than you can rebuild one th at you already have, and once you've built one, repairing and rebuilding is far easier than trying to figure out a new one from scratch. Or sell it to somebody here who is looking for a way to get into the game. I've always liked the paint job on your airplane, too...Oscar ZunigaSan Ant onio, TXmailto: taildrags@hotmail.comwebsite at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:29 AM PST US From: "ALAN LYSCARS" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Nice work DJ! Al Lyscars Manchester, NH ----- Original Message ----- From: DJ Vegh To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:44 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work. This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm DJ Vegh AZ ChopperCam Mesa, AZ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:44 AM PST US From: "Rick Holland" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to aviation types. Rick On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh wrote: > But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this > forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... jus t > busy with new work. > > This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas. > Both from a helicopter and on the ground. > > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm > > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm > > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm > > http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm > > > DJ Vegh > AZ ChopperCam > Mesa, AZ > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:52 AM PST US From: "bike.mike" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic I didn't try the other shots, but the downtown Phoenix shot is very nearly 360 in all directions. Mike Hardaway ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to aviation types. Rick On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote: But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work. This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm DJ Vegh AZ ChopperCam Mesa, AZ " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:25 AM PST US From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Does not say it on the site, but holding the shift key will zoom in and ctrl will zoom out. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bike.mike Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:00 AM To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic I didn't try the other shots, but the downtown Phoenix shot is very nearly 360 in all directions. Mike Hardaway ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:17 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to aviation types. Rick On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote: But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work. This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm DJ Vegh AZ ChopperCam Mesa, AZ " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! From: "Bill Church" How is it that Mike Cuy looks so young in the video, but his plane looks the same as it does now? By the way, that was a good video. Lots of nice footage. Bill C. do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:18 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA Video I checked out the video, pretty neat stuff, I can vaguely remember a show years ago that feature the Pietenpol on TV I think it was an hour show by one of the discovery channels. That's the thing that captivated me and made me want to know more and ultimately build one. I would love to purchase a copy of the show, however have no idea where one would find it, I don't believe it was a speed channel show, but it may have been when they featured the Wings segments. Any remember the show? or know where I can get some info about it or a DVD copy? It was a great show and interviewed a bunch of people while introducing the poor uneducated populous about the designer, the process and the bird. John **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:37 AM PST US From: "DJ Vegh" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Rick, not quite sure what you mean but on most of the panoramas you can view any angle you desire. Straight up or straight down included. There's quite a trick to not having the helicopter and camera mount in the shot. Primarily the tailboom and landing gear skids and the vertical view. Trade secret! DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Holland To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: slightly off topic Neat stuff DJ, one question, how come you can't do a vertical 360? Just in the horizontal direction? I quess the question would only occur to aviation types. Rick On Jan 11, 2008 1:44 AM, DJ Vegh < dj@veghdesign.com> wrote: But hoping some of you find it interesting. I don't hang around this forum much lately. It's not because I don't like you guys anymore... just busy with new work. This is what I am doing these days. Shooting 360=B0 spherical panoramas. Both from a helicopter and on the ground. http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cabin.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_N560KT_cockpit.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_44_monroe.shtm http://azchoppercam.com/pano_downtown_phx_3.shtm DJ Vegh AZ ChopperCam Mesa, AZ " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Rick Holland ObjectAge Ltd. Castle Rock, Colorado ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:24 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" To Bill Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane looking the same ! I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years to look this good honey' and she just rolls her eyes. John...the original production of that EAA video segment was shot by Speedvision and aired sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter of 2000 on Speedvision and was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh 1999. I made that Cessna 210 pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but good. He was a cocky SOB on the radio too. Photo One my ass. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:03 AM PST US From: RAMPEYBOY@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video I can't get the link to work at all now. What happened to it? **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:07 AM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Mike Cuy and the eternal fountain of youth Bill asked- >How is it that Mike Cuy looks so young in the video, but his plane looks >the same as it does now? It's a program called "PhotoShop", Bill. By using it, the producers at EAA were able to knock a good dozen years off of Mike's appearance, not to mention about two full kegs worth of beer belly and an extra chin. They felt that publishing the raw unedited footage might lead to credibility problems for non-aviation types who saw his beautiful airplane but couldn't believe that somebody like Mike could have built such a beauty, much less fit in it. The voice-over was not really Mike speaking, either... they have Hollywood studio men with youthful voices and good enunciation who did the sound track for the video. I think Mike may have paid them off, too ;o) The very best part of the video, for me, was hearing Steve's airplane spring to life. I know that sound!!! Pocketa-pocketa-pop-pocketa goes the A65. Just viewing the video made me once again pull out my stack of sectionals and keep plugging away at possible routes and stops to Brodhead this summer. Oscar Zuniga Air Camper NX41CC San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:18 AM PST US From: AMsafetyC@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video Mike, I got your DVD along with Chucks now I want the official one, any idea how I can get the entire show DVD its a definite need for my library. I have a place already for it in my library it will go right next to your DVD and between chuck and the Great Waldo Pepper BTW they are not lying to ya, having met ya in Broadhead 07 I can attest to the differences between the EAA 1999 show, the Mike DVD and the in person meeting... Sorry The good news and the bad are the same, the good news is you'll never look any better than you do today, the bad news is: you'll never look as good as you once did and I mean it in the nicest possible way! That my friend is the painful truth Mike thanks for the info, if you can get a line on how to order a copy of the DVD from that show I would appreciate the info. Thanks again John In a message dated 1/11/2008 12:17:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes: To Bill Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane looking the same ! I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years to look this good honey' and she just rolls her eyes. John...the original production of that EAA video segment was shot by Speedvision and aired sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter of 2000 on Speedvision and was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh 1999. I made that Cessna 210 pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but good. He was a cocky SOB on the radio too. Photo One my ass. Mike C. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:57 AM PST US From: Bryan Lowe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video I gotta say, this video was pretty inspirational to me! Bryan Seattle Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:22 AM PST US From: Ben Ramler Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video since we are talking about piet videos. A qiucky for MR. Cuy. Michael do you still have that video you put together when you were building contraption? thanks, Ben Ramler "here we go again" ----- Original Message ---- From: "AMsafetyC@aol.com" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:47:08 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: EAA Piet video Mike, I got your DVD along with Chucks now I want the official one, any idea how I can get the entire show DVD its a definite need for my library. I have a place already for it in my library it will go right next to your DVD and between chuck and the Great Waldo Pepper BTW they are not lying to ya, having met ya in Broadhead 07 I can attest to the differences between the EAA 1999 show, the Mike DVD and the in person meeting... Sorry The good news and the bad are the same, the good news is you'll never look any better than you do today, the bad news is: you'll never look as good as you once did and I mean it in the nicest possible way! That my friend is the painful truth Mike thanks for the info, if you can get a line on how to order a copy of the DVD from that show I would appreciate the info. Thanks again John In a message dated 1/11/2008 12:17:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes: To Bill Church.......you are 100% right about me aging but the plane looking the same ! I keep telling my wife that it took me '48 years to look this good honey' and she just rolls her eyes. John...the original production of that EAA video segment was shot by Speedvision and aired sometime in the late fall of 1999 or early winter of 2000 on Speedvision and was an hour long special about EAA Oshkosh 1999. I made that Cessna 210 pilot slow fly to take those air-to-air shots but good. He was a cocky SOB on the radio too. Photo One my ass. Mike C. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matron.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com ://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: testimonial From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Oscar, group, I consider myself somewhat of a BS'er too Oscar but it is always nice to hear from a professional:) I believe the EAA video is more about the airplane than the owners or builders in that the testimony we can take away from all of this is that despite almost a decade of my continued 'growth' around the middle the Pietenpol continues to levitate me summer after summer not giving opinion one way or the other about how many more inches of seat belt it might take to buckle me in. Though it's pilots may age, the Pietenpol design does not. Mike C. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:42 AM PST US From: "Michael Silvius" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Steve: I am sorry to hear that your baby is broken. A rebuild is definitely in order. There is a ready built fuselage on ebay right now I think quite reasonably priced It may just be the way to go. see Item number: 320204694335 Michael in Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:30 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Those were the days! That trip by far was the most memorable I've made in an airplane. It literally brought me to tears when I realized I was on my first return leg home after Brodhead 99'. Now for some more tear shedding. I've put off writing about this for almost a month, but my Aircamper NX7229R has been mortally damaged in a landing mishap. The poor thing has had its back broken. I sent it to live with my brother in south of Tucson for the winter and on Dec 20, he called to say that he was OK, but the piet was badly damaged when he pancaked it onto the runway. A non-pilot airpark resident had run a stop sign on the bisecting access road, and stopped in the middle of the runway when he saw my brother coming. Instead of simply rolling on through he jammed it in reverse and backed up. This distraction caused my brother to let the plane slow, stall and drop to the runway. The longerons and the crossbrace at the front gear/front lift strut attach point was crushed and buckled. The fittings were pushed together about 4-5 inches. The wings sagged down as the gear splayed, but somehow the prop remained untouched except for a small dent on the leading edge when it hit a mesquite tree when the poor piet left the runway. The lower cowling was damaged and the gascolator deformed. Gas spilled, but thank heavens there was no fire. There were no injuries to the solo pilot. The crash was witness by an off duty officer and pilot, but since it occurred on private property no citation was issued. The driver has denied any responsibility and offered nothing in reparations. Only thing left to do is file a lawsuit, but that really isn't in either of our natures. We are trying to decide if the 10 year love affair with Aircamper 29R is over, or simply another chapter is to be written as we build up or repair the damaged fuselage. My brother has said he will buy me out and rebuild. I still have the Stinson to fly, but can hardly imagine being without a low and slow open cockpit airplane. Something in my head is whispering 0-200 powered? Maybe a new Rotec? What about a 120% scale Piet with the 140HP LOM? Steve 'E' Spanish Fork, UT. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:37 PM To: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! Ya gotta see it... Mike Cuy, Steve Eldredge, Lowell Frank, and a cast of Pietenpols! 8:05 of video: http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=1373284259 Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:01:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Piet DVD From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC]" Ben, Yes, I still have my 2.5 hour home production of building and flying my Pietenpol. The DVD is very effective in sending unwanted family members out of any room you happen to be watching from as well as an FDA approved substitute for Ambien, Ambien CR, and Lunesta if taken regularly and as prescribed. Side effects may include divorce, restless building syndrome, erratic credit card purchases from Wicks, Aircraft Spruce, and other aircraft supply houses. $24 to 298 Runn Street, Berea, Ohio, 44017 for priority mail US shipping. More here: http://users.aol.com/bpabpabpa/cuyvideo.html ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:05 PM PST US From: "Graham Hansen" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Steve, Oscar is right. Rebuild it and continue to enjoy open cockpit flying! Even if you have to build a complete fuselage structure, you won't have to build all the other stuff that takes so much time. And you can incorporate little modifications, based on the experience you have gained, to make an even better Pietenpol. Go for it! Good luck, Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly Alberta) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:21 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead 99' and some sad news From: "Don Emch" Steve, I'll join the crying too. Once again the Piet structure pulled through to protect the pilot. That's really great your brother was okay. Like Graham said building a fuselage might not be a bad idea. The structure itself does go together pretty quickly. The ambition can get kinda low after something like that but I'll bet if you give it a little time the desire will really burn to get it going again! You and your plane have created it's own legend over the last several years! I say go for it too! Don Emch NX899DE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=157548#157548 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:02 PM PST US From: "Dick Navratil" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Steve Very sorry to hear of your loss. If you would seriously like to consider re-building and take a vacation at the same time, we can build you a new fuselage in the Wood shop at Sun n Fun. In one week you could have a basic fuselage. All you would have to do is provide the basic materials. We are always looking for projects I will be out of town getting Sun next week so no return posts till then. Dick N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Eldredge To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Those were the days! That trip by far was the most memorable I've made in an airplane. It literally brought me to tears when I realized I was on my first return leg home after Brodhead 99'. Now for some more tear shedding. I've put off writing about this for almost a month, but my Aircamper NX7229R has been mortally damaged in a landing mishap. The poor thing has had its back broken. I sent it to live with my brother in south of Tucson for the winter and on Dec 20, he called to say that he was OK, but the piet was badly damaged when he pancaked it onto the runway. A non-pilot airpark resident had run a stop sign on the bisecting access road, and stopped in the middle of the runway when he saw my brother coming. Instead of simply rolling on through he jammed it in reverse and backed up. This distraction caused my brother to let the plane slow, stall and drop to the runway. The longerons and the crossbrace at the front gear/front lift strut attach point was crushed and buckled. The fittings were pushed together about 4-5 inches. The wings sagged down as the gear splayed, but somehow the prop remained untouched except for a small dent on the leading edge when it hit a mesquite tree when the poor piet left the runway. The lower cowling was damaged and the gascolator deformed. Gas spilled, but thank heavens there was no fire. There were no injuries to the solo pilot. The crash was witness by an off duty officer and pilot, but since it occurred on private property no citation was issued. The driver has denied any responsibility and offered nothing in reparations. Only thing left to do is file a lawsuit, but that really isn't in either of our natures. We are trying to decide if the 10 year love affair with Aircamper 29R is over, or simply another chapter is to be written as we build up or repair the damaged fuselage. My brother has said he will buy me out and rebuild. I still have the Stinson to fly, but can hardly imagine being without a low and slow open cockpit airplane. Something in my head is whispering 0-200 powered? Maybe a new Rotec? What about a 120% scale Piet with the 140HP LOM? Steve 'E' Spanish Fork, UT. From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:37 PM To: Pietenpol List Subject: Pietenpol-List: great EAA video on Piets!!!!!!! Ya gotta see it... Mike Cuy, Steve Eldredge, Lowell Frank, and a cast of Pietenpols! 8:05 of video: http://www.eaa.org/video/eaa.html?videoId=1373284259 Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:47:09 PM PST US From: Darrel Jones Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead 99' and some sad news Graham Hansen wrote: > Steve, > > Oscar is right. Rebuild it and continue to enjoy open cockpit flying! > > Even if you have to build a complete fuselage structure, you won't > have to build all the other stuff that takes so much time. And you can > incorporate little modifications, based on the experience you have > gained, to make an even better Pietenpol. > > Go for it! > > Good luck, > > Graham Hansen (Pietenpol CF-AUN in chilly Alberta) Steve, I have a couple of spare fuselage sides here in Sonoma, CA that you can have as a start if you can find a way to get them up there. We're at least on the same side of the Mississippi. 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